chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>
> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!

It's a dirty wbo.

But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
lines to, digested bottoms or not.

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In article <XnsB10B9E922B128Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Thu, 1 Feb 2024 at 15:35:16 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:upg6gs$234a1$1
>@dont-email.me:
>
>> The day (maybe two) before the M62 (as was) were opened to traffic
>> me and a mate (I forget which one!) bicycled the entire length of the
>> motorway starting and ending at the Robin Hood junction. I forget how
>> far it went. Possibly to where the M606 is (used) to be. I unforget it
>> were a blurry long way - but what a trip :-)
>
>While the Barton high-level bridge was being built I broke in a new pair of
>hiking boots by walking every evening along the Stretford stretch of the
>motorway. I see from wikidoodah that the bridge opened in 1960 so I guess my
>use of it as a training ground for my new boots must have been in '59, when
>I would have been (mmm, counts on fingers..) 13.
>
I seem to remember that some of the construction workers were killed
while building that bridge. I think there was a collapse of somesort. I
was 10 or 11.
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On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>
>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>
> It's a dirty wbo.
>
> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>
Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.

Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
it has to be given.

Chris

In uk.rec.sheds, (Adrian) wrote in <jd7qNCKU27tlFwyy@ku.gro.lloiff>::

>In message <1qo3mk3.1wh12mb16ggdvdN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, Sn!pe
><snipeco.2@gmail.com> writes
>>Get your kicks on Route 666 (to Edgeware) :-
>>
>
>Do you have a devil of a time ?

My Mother-in-law lives just off the A666.
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In article <l24n0sF90sU1@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
<chrisnd@privacy.net> on Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 17:27:56 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>>
>>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>>
>> It's a dirty wbo.
>>
>> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
>> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>>
>Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.
>
>Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
>it has to be given.
>
I used to holiday on an island with no roads, to speak of, no buses, but
they had a single bus stop. The official map showed a 'motorway' linking
the two major centres of population. The motorway was not much more than
a donkey track. That was a long time ago.
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Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <l24n0sF90sU1@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
><chrisnd@privacy.net> on Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 17:27:56 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
>>On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>>>
>>>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>>>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>>>
>>> It's a dirty wbo.
>>>
>>> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
>>> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>>>
>>Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.

Even if you could get there by car ?

>>Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
>>it has to be given.
>>
> I used to holiday on an island with no roads, to speak of, no buses, but
> they had a single bus stop. The official map showed a 'motorway' linking
> the two major centres of population. The motorway was not much more than
> a donkey track. That was a long time ago.

I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.

I don't know if there was any way of getting a vehicle from one to
another of them, looked like big steep hills in the way.

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Richard Robinson <richard@qualmograph.org.uk> wrote in
news:uple9k$34pt3$1@dont-email.me:

> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.

I visited Orkney Coastguard on Mainland many years ago. They were very proud
of the map of the Orkneys pinned up in the CG station. It showed the rest of
the UK in a little box at the bottom of the map. At that time it was normal
for maps of the UK to show the Orkneys in a small box at the top of the map.

--
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-----

On 03/02/2024 14:10, Peter wrote:
> Richard Robinson <richard@qualmograph.org.uk> wrote in
> news:uple9k$34pt3$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
>
> I visited Orkney Coastguard on Mainland many years ago. They were very proud
> of the map of the Orkneys pinned up in the CG station. It showed the rest of
> the UK in a little box at the bottom of the map. At that time it was normal
> for maps of the UK to show the Orkneys in a small box at the top of the map.
>
Ha! Nice one :-)

Chris

On 03/02/2024 13:15, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>> In article <l24n0sF90sU1@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> on Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 17:27:56 awoke Nicholas
>> from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>>>>
>>>>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>>>>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>>>>
>>>> It's a dirty wbo.
>>>>
>>>> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
>>>> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>>>>
>>> Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.
>
> Even if you could get there by car ?
>
>>> Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
>>> it has to be given.
>>>
>> I used to holiday on an island with no roads, to speak of, no buses, but
>> they had a single bus stop. The official map showed a 'motorway' linking
>> the two major centres of population. The motorway was not much more than
>> a donkey track. That was a long time ago.
>
> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
I have a Faroese friend - I shall have to ask her...

Chris

On 2024-02-03, chrisnd@privacy.net <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 03/02/2024 13:15, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>>> In article <l24n0sF90sU1@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> on Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 17:27:56 awoke Nicholas
>>> from his slumbers and wrote
>>>> On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>>>>>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a dirty wbo.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
>>>>> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>>>>>
>>>> Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.
>>
>> Even if you could get there by car ?
>>
>>>> Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
>>>> it has to be given.
>>>>
>>> I used to holiday on an island with no roads, to speak of, no buses, but
>>> they had a single bus stop. The official map showed a 'motorway' linking
>>> the two major centres of population. The motorway was not much more than
>>> a donkey track. That was a long time ago.
>>
>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
> I have a Faroese friend - I shall have to ask her...
>
> Chris

Was that the former British Orkneys or the proposed Danish Orkneys?.

Not sure if there are roads on the Aran islands(galway bay). They may
call them `Sraids'

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Peter said:
> Richard Robinson <richard@qualmograph.org.uk> wrote in
> news:uple9k$34pt3$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
>
> I visited Orkney Coastguard on Mainland many years ago. They were very proud
> of the map of the Orkneys pinned up in the CG station. It showed the rest of
> the UK in a little box at the bottom of the map.

Yay ! "Fog in Pentland Firth, world isolated !"

> At that time it was normal for maps of the UK to show the Orkneys in a
> small box at the top of the map.

I once heard a Shetlandman asked where he lived. "That little box out to sea
off Aberdeen", he said. http://qualmograph.org.uk/tmp/satphoto.jpg

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chrisnd@privacy.net said:
> On 03/02/2024 13:15, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>>> In article <l24n0sF90sU1@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> on Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 17:27:56 awoke Nicholas
>>> from his slumbers and wrote
>>>> On 01/02/2024 19:43, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate buses, they throw you around like kno other vehicle and are
>>>>>> invariably cramped. They are the bottom feeders of public transport!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a dirty wbo.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they'll get you to lots and lots of places no-one ever molished railway
>>>>> lines to, digested bottoms or not.
>>>>>
>>>> Sad but true - but I'll probably leave those places for another lifetime.
>>
>> Even if you could get there by car ?
>>
>>>> Buses on small islands, like those of Mann and Malta, are an exception,
>>>> it has to be given.
>>>>
>>> I used to holiday on an island with no roads, to speak of, no buses, but
>>> they had a single bus stop. The official map showed a 'motorway' linking
>>> the two major centres of population. The motorway was not much more than
>>> a donkey track. That was a long time ago.
>>
>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
> I have a Faroese friend - I shall have to ask her...

It was quite an old map.

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My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 03/02/2024 18:44, Richard Robinson wrote:
> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>> On 03/02/2024 13:15, Richard Robinson wrote:

>>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
>> I have a Faroese friend - I shall have to ask her...
>
> It was quite an old map.
>
>
Google Streetview has been there.

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On 03-Feb-24 18:54, John Williamson wrote:
> On 03/02/2024 18:44, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> chrisnd@privacy.net said:
>>> On 03/02/2024 13:15, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>>>> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
>>> I have a Faroese friend - I shall have to ask her...
>>
>> It was quite an old map.
>>
>>
> Google Streetview has been there.
>
Plus a fair few YouTubers. Steve Marsh is one of them.

--
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Richard Robinson <richard@qualmograph.org.uk> wrote:

> I saw a map of the Faroes Islands, once. The main island had 3 roads.
>
> I don't know if there was any way of getting a vehicle from one to another
> of them, looked like big steep hills in the way.
>
I goove they are excellent tunnellers.

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On 01/02/2024 15:05, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:

>>
> Do you remember the gatehouse at Worsley, by the Old Courthouse, which
> they demolished to allow construction of the first junction on that
> there M62 (as was to be and is no longer)? I watched them demolish that
> as I waited for the bus/trolley bus home from skool.

No don't recall that.
My only recollections of Worsley are:
wondering where the canal water turns brown and Bile Beans.

--
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It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

In article <upngge$3ij6g$1@dont-email.me>, nev young <newsforpasiphae195
3@yahoo.co.uk> on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 08:05:34 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 01/02/2024 15:05, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>
>>>
>> Do you remember the gatehouse at Worsley, by the Old Courthouse, which
>> they demolished to allow construction of the first junction on that
>> there M62 (as was to be and is no longer)? I watched them demolish that
>> as I waited for the bus/trolley bus home from skool.
>
>No don't recall that.
>My only recollections of Worsley are:
>wondering where the canal water turns brown and Bile Beans.
>
Amongst his other duties my father managed the then remaining navigable
levels that exited to the Bridgewater Canal. They were no longer
directly used to get coal but were maintained to assist in the drainage
of SE Lancashire coal mines. The drainage is no longer actively
maintained by pumping but will continue into any sort of foreseeable
future.

The water is draining through ferrous strata and the colour is caused by
iron oxides. I have read that there is a project to remove the oxides
from the drainage water. I am not sure how I feel about that.

The boats used in these navigable levels were known as 'Starvationers'
due to the narrowness and the visibility of the ribs. I had the
privilege of travelling the length of the maintained length of the
levels, circa 1965. Access was from the shaft in Walkden Yard.
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"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
news:4syBjYAR70vlFACu@salmiron.com:

>
> The water is draining through ferrous strata and the colour is caused
> by iron oxides. I have read that there is a project to remove the
> oxides from the drainage water. I am not sure how I feel about that.

Me too. The whole point of the Bridgewater Canal was its colour, to a lad
like me.

> The boats used in these navigable levels were known as 'Starvationers'
> due to the narrowness and the visibility of the ribs. I had the
> privilege of travelling the length of the maintained length of the
> levels, circa 1965. Access was from the shaft in Walkden Yard.

There's some good U-bend footage of the starvationers and the blokes who
used to operate them

--
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-----

In article <XnsB10E697ABEB4BFactura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 10:22:05 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
>news:4syBjYAR70vlFACu@salmiron.com:
>
>
>>
>> The water is draining through ferrous strata and the colour is caused
>> by iron oxides. I have read that there is a project to remove the
>> oxides from the drainage water. I am not sure how I feel about that.
>
>Me too. The whole point of the Bridgewater Canal was its colour, to a lad
>like me.
>
>> The boats used in these navigable levels were known as 'Starvationers'
>> due to the narrowness and the visibility of the ribs. I had the
>> privilege of travelling the length of the maintained length of the
>> levels, circa 1965. Access was from the shaft in Walkden Yard.
>
>There's some good U-bend footage of the starvationers and the blokes who
>used to operate them
>
By the 1960's most of these 'blokes' were Yugoslavs who remained from
after WWII. They had learnt their English from fellow workers. It was
'ripe' without an aggressive voice. On my trip I learnt a few new words
that I had never heard before. A fond memory.
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