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* UK built Monorail CarsMarland
+* UK built Monorail CarsGraeme Wall
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|`* UK built Monorail CarsArthur Figgis
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| |`* UK built Monorail CarsCertes
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| |`* UK built Monorail CarsBob
| | `- UK built Monorail CarsAnna Noyd-Dryver
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| `* UK built Monorail CarsJames Heaton
|  `* UK built Monorail CarsMuttley
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|   || |  +* UK built Monorail CarsRecliner
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|   || |   |+* Japan built Monorail CarsJohn Levine
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|   || |   |`- UK built Monorail CarsAnna Noyd-Dryver
|   || |   `* UK built Monorail CarsAnna Noyd-Dryver
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|   || |     `* UK built Monorail CarsAnna Noyd-Dryver
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|   || |           | `- UK built Monorail CarsMarland
|   || |           `- UK built Monorail CarsRoland Perry
|   || `- UK built Monorail CarsAnna Noyd-Dryver
|   |`- UK built Monorail CarsArthur Figgis
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From: gemeha...@btinternet.co.uk (Marland)
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 by: Marland - Thu, 12 May 2022 19:24 UTC

I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate identification
was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that could
easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
<
https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>

Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
being a loss leader.

GH

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 by: Graeme Wall - Thu, 12 May 2022 19:31 UTC

On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>
> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate identification
> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that could
> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
> <
> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>
> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
> being a loss leader.
>

Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: Charles Ellson - Thu, 12 May 2022 20:34 UTC

On Thu, 12 May 2022 20:31:38 +0100, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>
>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate identification
>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that could
>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>> <
>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>
>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>> being a loss leader.
>>
>
>Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>
"INNOVIA monorail 300 was selected based on its suitability for
congested cities and flagship performance in driverless operations."
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/cairo-monorail/

It looks a bit like (similar to some parts of the DLR) they have
chosen something that is easier to thread through/round/over buildings
and structures without knocking things down or having much of a
ground-level footprint.

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 by: Arthur Figgis - Thu, 12 May 2022 21:06 UTC

On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>
>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>> identification
>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>> could
>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>> <
>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>> being a loss leader.
>>
>
> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.

I hear those things are awfully loud.
--
Arthur Figgis

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 by: John Levine - Thu, 12 May 2022 21:58 UTC

According to Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com>:
>>Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>
>"INNOVIA monorail 300 was selected based on its suitability for
>congested cities and flagship performance in driverless operations."
>https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/cairo-monorail/
>
>It looks a bit like (similar to some parts of the DLR) they have
>chosen something that is easier to thread through/round/over buildings
>and structures without knocking things down or having much of a
>ground-level footprint.

One of the articles said they can prefabricate sections of the guiderail offsite
which should make construction faster.

Arthur said:
> I hear those things are awfully loud.

Cairo is one of the noisiest cities in the world, with noise routinely
at 90dB. I doubt anyone will hear the monorail unless it has
hairpin curves.

--
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 by: Nobody - Thu, 12 May 2022 22:11 UTC

On Thu, 12 May 2022 22:06:56 +0100, Arthur Figgis
<afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:

>On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>
>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>> identification
>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>> could
>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>> <
>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>> being a loss leader.
>>>
>>
>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>
>I hear those things are awfully loud.

It's been years since I've ridden the short monorail in Seattle, WA...
but it wasn't any worse than light rail at street level on steel
tracks.

They sure have won the jackpot of value-for-money as it's celebrating
its 60th anniversary this year:

<https://www.seattlemonorail.com/>

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 by: Anna Noyd-Dryver - Thu, 12 May 2022 22:44 UTC

Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>
>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>> identification
>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>> could
>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>> <
>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>> being a loss leader.
>>>
>>
>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>
> I hear those things are awfully loud.

It glides as softly as a cloud.

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 by: Certes - Fri, 13 May 2022 00:49 UTC

On 12/05/2022 23:11, Nobody wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2022 22:06:56 +0100, Arthur Figgis
> <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>> identification
>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>> could
>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>>> being a loss leader.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>
>> I hear those things are awfully loud.
>
> It's been years since I've ridden the short monorail in Seattle, WA...
> but it wasn't any worse than light rail at street level on steel
> tracks.
>
> They sure have won the jackpot of value-for-money as it's celebrating
> its 60th anniversary this year:
>
> <https://www.seattlemonorail.com/>

So not sleepless in Seattle, just sleeperless.

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 by: Nobody - Fri, 13 May 2022 01:31 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 01:49:54 +0100, Certes <none@nowhere.net> wrote:

>On 12/05/2022 23:11, Nobody wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 May 2022 22:06:56 +0100, Arthur Figgis
>> <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>>> identification
>>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>>> could
>>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>>> <
>>>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>>>> being a loss leader.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>>
>>> I hear those things are awfully loud.
>>
>> It's been years since I've ridden the short monorail in Seattle, WA...
>> but it wasn't any worse than light rail at street level on steel
>> tracks.
>>
>> They sure have won the jackpot of value-for-money as it's celebrating
>> its 60th anniversary this year:
>>
>> <https://www.seattlemonorail.com/>
>
>So not sleepless in Seattle, just sleeperless.

Not only that, they're casual... no need to knot ties... thus
sleeper-less.

<g>

No point in switching...

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 by: Graeme Wall - Fri, 13 May 2022 07:03 UTC

On 12/05/2022 22:06, Arthur Figgis wrote:
> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>
> I hear those things are awfully loud.
<groan>

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: Bob - Fri, 13 May 2022 08:50 UTC

On 2022-05-12 22:44:04 +0000, Anna Noyd-Dryver said:

> Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>> identification
>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>> could
>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>>> being a loss leader.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>
>> I hear those things are awfully loud.
>
> It glides as softly as a cloud.

Is there a chance the track could bend?

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 by: James Heaton - Fri, 13 May 2022 09:23 UTC

"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
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On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>
>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>> identification
>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>> could
>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>> <
>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>

> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.

>I hear those things are awfully loud.

Is there a chance the track could bend?

No brain dead slobs, here!

(Arthur and I appear to be the only 2 Simpsons fans...

James

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 10:13 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:23:36 +0100
"James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
>news:tNadncc8b8Js6-D_nZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>
>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>> identification
>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>> could
>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>> <
>>>
>https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at
>-british-factory/>
>
>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.

I wonder why anyone goes for a monorail anymore. AFAIK not a single public
transport one - as opposed to something at Disney - has been a success and
a number have closed down. Yet still occasionally someone thinks they're a
good idea and puts down hard cash. Wierd. Did they want one or did Alsthom
persuade them they needed one instead of a tram?

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 by: Anna Noyd-Dryver - Fri, 13 May 2022 10:15 UTC

Bob <email@domain.com> wrote:
> On 2022-05-12 22:44:04 +0000, Anna Noyd-Dryver said:
>
>> Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>>> identification
>>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>>> could
>>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>>> <
>>>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully as the first significant export order from a UK plant for some
>>>>> time they won’t crack,burst into flames or suffer from some other defect
>>>>> and let the UK get a toehold into foreign markets again.
>>>>> These probably won’t make much money for UK PLC as the government is
>>>>> underwriting much of the finance for them but maybe they are viewed as
>>>>> being a loss leader.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>>
>>> I hear those things are awfully loud.
>>
>> It glides as softly as a cloud.
>
> Is there a chance the track could bend?
>

Not on your life, my Usenet friend!

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 by: Graeme Wall - Fri, 13 May 2022 10:59 UTC

On 13/05/2022 11:13, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:23:36 +0100
> "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> "Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
>> news:tNadncc8b8Js6-D_nZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>> identification
>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>> could
>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at
>> -british-factory/>
>>
>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>
> I wonder why anyone goes for a monorail anymore. AFAIK not a single public
> transport one - as opposed to something at Disney - has been a success and
> a number have closed down. Yet still occasionally someone thinks they're a
> good idea and puts down hard cash. Wierd. Did they want one or did Alsthom
> persuade them they needed one instead of a tram?
>

Aren't there some operating in China?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: Sam Wilson - Fri, 13 May 2022 12:22 UTC

Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 11:13, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:23:36 +0100
>> "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
>>> news:tNadncc8b8Js6-D_nZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>>> identification
>>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>>> could
>>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at
>>> -british-factory/>
>>>
>>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>
>> I wonder why anyone goes for a monorail anymore. AFAIK not a single public
>> transport one - as opposed to something at Disney - has been a success and
>> a number have closed down. Yet still occasionally someone thinks they're a
>> good idea and puts down hard cash. Wierd. Did they want one or did Alsthom
>> persuade them they needed one instead of a tram?
>>
>
> Aren't there some operating in China?

I’ve been on the one in Kuala Lumpur, and on the one at Alton Towers.

Sam

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 by: hounslow3@yahoo.co.u - Fri, 13 May 2022 12:38 UTC

On 13/05/2022 11:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 11:13, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:23:36 +0100
>> "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Arthur Figgis"  wrote in message
>>> news:tNadncc8b8Js6-D_nZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>
>>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover
>>>>> style
>>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>>> identification
>>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>>> could
>>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>> https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at
>>>
>>> -british-factory/>
>>>
>>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>
>> I wonder why anyone goes for a monorail anymore. AFAIK not a single
>> public
>> transport one - as opposed to something at Disney - has been a success
>> and
>> a number have closed down. Yet still occasionally someone thinks
>> they're a
>> good idea and puts down hard cash. Wierd. Did they want one or did
>> Alsthom
>> persuade them they needed one instead of a tram?
>>
>
> Aren't there some operating in China?
>
As well as in Japan and Singapore.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
"hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On 13/05/2022 11:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> On 13/05/2022 11:13, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:23:36 +0100
>>> "James Heaton" <heatonandmoore@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> "Arthur Figgis"  wrote in message
>>>> news:tNadncc8b8Js6-D_nZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>>> On 12/05/2022 20:24, Marland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover
>>>>>> style
>>>>>> cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate
>>>>>> identification
>>>>>> was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>>>>>> delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>>>>>> Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>
>https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at
>
>>>>
>>>> -british-factory/>
>>>>
>>>>> Intriguing, I wonder why they went for a monorail.
>>>
>>> I wonder why anyone goes for a monorail anymore. AFAIK not a single
>>> public
>>> transport one - as opposed to something at Disney - has been a success
>>> and
>>> a number have closed down. Yet still occasionally someone thinks
>>> they're a
>>> good idea and puts down hard cash. Wierd. Did they want one or did
>>> Alsthom
>>> persuade them they needed one instead of a tram?
>>>
>>
>> Aren't there some operating in China?
>>
>As well as in Japan and Singapore.

Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
one?

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 by: Mark Goodge - Fri, 13 May 2022 13:25 UTC

On 12 May 2022 19:24:38 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

>
>I was intrigued the other day to see some monorail or people mover style
>cars in Southampton Docks a couple of weeks back. Immediate identification
>was not possible as the livery appeared to consist of something that could
>easily be taken for a graffiti attack rather than an operator and the
>delivery labels just a little too small to read on the camera screen .
>Now I’m home again it turns out they were destined for Cairo.
><
>https://www.railjournal.com/africa/alstom-completes-its-first-cairo-monorail-at-british-factory/>

I had my photo taken with a model of one of those a few years ago:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10162515897805247

Mark

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 by: Mark Goodge - Fri, 13 May 2022 13:28 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:

>On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
>"hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>
>Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
>one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U

Mark

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 13:59 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:28:20 +0100
Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
>>"hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>>
>>Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
>>one?
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U

Looks remarkably clunky and involved trackwork.

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 by: Graeme Wall - Fri, 13 May 2022 14:38 UTC

On 13/05/2022 14:59, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:28:20 +0100
> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
>>> "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>>>
>>> Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
>>> one?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U
>
> Looks remarkably clunky and involved trackwork.
>
>

Can't work out what it actsully does, looks like switched crossovers
rather than points

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Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 14:59, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:28:20 +0100
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
>>>> "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>>>>
>>>> Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
>>>> one?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U
>>
>> Looks remarkably clunky and involved trackwork.
>>
>>
>
> Can't work out what it actsully does, looks like switched crossovers
> rather than points
>

There is of course the Wuppertal Schwebebahn.

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Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 14:59, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:28:20 +0100
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
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>>>
>>>>> As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>>>>
>>>> Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed Sydney
>>>> one?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U
>>
>> Looks remarkably clunky and involved trackwork.
>>
>>
>
> Can't work out what it actsully does, looks like switched crossovers
> rather than points
>

Look at the last few images in this album:
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72157669978770284>

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 15:02 UTC

On Fri, 13 May 2022 15:38:31 +0100
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 13/05/2022 14:59, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:28:20 +0100
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 13:38:56 +0100
>>>> "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As well as in Japan and Singapore.
>>>>
>>>> Are they proper PT or some noddy 1 mile loop line like the now closed
>Sydney
>>>> one?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SOmeF3K9U
>>
>> Looks remarkably clunky and involved trackwork.
>>
>>
>
>Can't work out what it actsully does, looks like switched crossovers
>rather than points

The whole beam moves I imagine. Which must be a maintenance nightmare.

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