On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:55:31 -0000, "Dean Jarratt"
<marquis@eidosnet.spamless.co.uk> wrote:

I've just been looking through old posts (having moved back to using
Agent rather than google)
New contender for worst ever call in cricket?

>Just looking at the way Anderson's career is developing leads me to believe
>that he could well be a has-been already.
>
>This puts him on my list Has-Been's. Most likely he is the youngest has-been
>ever.

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:39:53 PM UTC+10, Mad Hamish wrote:
> New contender for worst ever call in cricket?

Just as bad as some of Bucknor's decisions during the "waaaaa, Sydney" Test.. So.. yes.

In message <obdosillpj4aj0dl041qcurd66gjciaj3o@4ax.com>, Mad Hamish
<newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> writes
>On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:55:31 -0000, "Dean Jarratt"
><marquis@eidosnet.spamless.co.uk> wrote:
>
>I've just been looking through old posts (having moved back to using
>Agent rather than google)
>New contender for worst ever call in cricket?
>
>>Just looking at the way Anderson's career is developing leads me to believe
>>that he could well be a has-been already.
>>
>>This puts him on my list Has-Been's. Most likely he is the youngest has-been
>>ever.

LOL!
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

Mad Hamish wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:55:31 -0000, "Dean Jarratt"
> <marquis@eidosnet.spamless.co.uk> wrote:

> I've just been looking through old posts (having moved back to using
> Agent rather than google)
> New contender for worst ever call in cricket?

>>Just looking at the way Anderson's career is developing leads me to believe
>>that he could well be a has-been already.
>>
>>This puts him on my list Has-Been's. Most likely he is the youngest has-been
>>ever.

Rob's "What about Collingwood?" in the same thread was also fairly wide of the mark. He played his last international match nearly 14 years later.

https://groups.google.com/g/uk.sport.cricket/c/iy1rOlfleZA/m/Leve4HZGAgAJ

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 13:33:55 +0000, usenet@lanefarm.plus.com (dnorth)
wrote:

>Mad Hamish wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:55:31 -0000, "Dean Jarratt"
>> <marquis@eidosnet.spamless.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've just been looking through old posts (having moved back to using
>> Agent rather than google)
>> New contender for worst ever call in cricket?
>
>>>Just looking at the way Anderson's career is developing leads me to believe
>>>that he could well be a has-been already.
>>>
>>>This puts him on my list Has-Been's. Most likely he is the youngest has-been
>>>ever.
>
>Rob's "What about Collingwood?" in the same thread was also fairly wide of the mark. He played his last international match nearly 14 years later.
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.sport.cricket/c/iy1rOlfleZA/m/Leve4HZGAgAJ
>
>
Collingwood must be close to being the longest has been. I never rated
him as a top international player. Decent but easier to replace than a
true top class player. David Willey gives me the same feeling.

max.it

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:57:47 +0000, max.it <max@tea.time> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 13:33:55 +0000, usenet@lanefarm.plus.com (dnorth)
>wrote:
>
>>Mad Hamish wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:55:31 -0000, "Dean Jarratt"
>>> <marquis@eidosnet.spamless.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just been looking through old posts (having moved back to using
>>> Agent rather than google)
>>> New contender for worst ever call in cricket?
>>
>>>>Just looking at the way Anderson's career is developing leads me to believe
>>>>that he could well be a has-been already.
>>>>
>>>>This puts him on my list Has-Been's. Most likely he is the youngest has-been
>>>>ever.
>>
>>Rob's "What about Collingwood?" in the same thread was also fairly wide of the mark. He played his last international match nearly 14 years later.
>>
>>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.sport.cricket/c/iy1rOlfleZA/m/Leve4HZGAgAJ
>>
>>
>Collingwood must be close to being the longest has been. I never rated
>him as a top international player. Decent but easier to replace than a
>true top class player. David Willey gives me the same feeling.
>
I'd say you're being a bit harsh on collingwood or flattering to
Willey here.
I'd agree that Collingwood was never a top drawer international player
but his record is reasonable for the period.
Willey, with an average of 26.9 is well below an acceptable record for
the period (admittedly almost all of his tests came against Aus and
the Windies who were probably the strongest attacks during his career
but 1 50 and only 2 other innings over 20 from 9 tests vs Aus tells
its own story)

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:22:43 AM UTC+10, Mad Hamish wrote:
> I'd say you're being a bit harsh on collingwood or flattering to
> Willey here.

I do wonder if "had been" / "never was" is in context of global cricket, or just a player's peers w.r.t country selection eg other England players.

Collingwood might not have been a global super star, but he absolutely deserved his spot on THAT England team.