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* "Strictly" camera workTony Gamble
+* Re: "Strictly" camera workNY
|+* Re: "Strictly" camera workRoderick Stewart
||`* Re: "Strictly" camera workTony Gamble
|| `* Re: "Strictly" camera workJava Jive
||  `- Re: "Strictly" camera workRoderick Stewart
|`- Re: "Strictly" camera workBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
+* Re: "Strictly" camera workDave W
|+- Re: "Strictly" camera workMB
|+* Re: "Strictly" camera workTony Gamble
||`- Re: "Strictly" camera workDave W
|`* Re: "Strictly" camera workAndy Burns
| `* Re: "Strictly" camera workRoderick Stewart
|  `* Re: "Strictly" camera workTony Gamble
|   `- Re: "Strictly" camera workRoderick Stewart
+* Re: "Strictly" camera workOwen Rees
|`* Re: "Strictly" camera workTony Gamble
| `* Re: "Strictly" camera workOwen Rees
|  `- Re: "Strictly" camera workDave W
`- Re: "Strictly" camera workBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)

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 by: Tony Gamble - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:58 UTC

Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera
360 degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without
showing any other cameras?

Does anyone have any pointers to show how they are now able to create
those scenic changes? I realise it is all done with electronics of one
type or another - but the tree that appeared on Saturday's set and
came/went in less than two minutes of screen time was quite impressive.

My observation is that now the Saturday night part does not even pretend
to be 'live' it give much more time to make the show - without boring an
audience to tears.

Clearly a lot of talent and hard work - most impressive!

Tony
Ex RTV and LWT

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 by: NY - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 20:20 UTC

"Tony Gamble" <tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera 360
> degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without showing any
> other cameras?

I've seen in some drama productions the camera circle 360 degrees round a
pair of actors during their scene. If the camera is tilted up enough, they
can use a circular track with the camera dolly on it, but I've seen some
where a track would be in shot, so it can only be a steadicam operator
walking around them *very* smoothly - or else a camera on an overhead
crane...

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Subject: Re: "Strictly" camera work
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 by: Dave W - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 23:14 UTC

On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:58:52 +0000, Tony Gamble
<tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote:
>Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera
>360 degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without
>showing any other cameras?
>
>Does anyone have any pointers to show how they are now able to create
>those scenic changes? I realise it is all done with electronics of one
>type or another - but the tree that appeared on Saturday's set and
>came/went in less than two minutes of screen time was quite impressive.
>
>My observation is that now the Saturday night part does not even pretend
>to be 'live' it give much more time to make the show - without boring an
>audience to tears.
>
>Clearly a lot of talent and hard work - most impressive!
>
>Tony
>Ex RTV and LWT
On BBC2's 'Strictly It Takes Two' on weekdays I've seen rehearsals
where one cameraman with a steadycam and trainers runs around the
dancers, so there will not be any other cameras on the floor. All
other cameras are in the dark amongst the audience so can't be seen.
The scenic changes are superimposed electronically and would not be
seen by any audience on set.
What makes you think the show's not live? They do ask for viewers to
vote, which they couldn't do on a recording. What I find fascinating
is how the results show on Sunday, which is recorded half an hour
after the Saturday live show ends, manages to pretend it's taking
place on Sunday. The presenters wear new costumes and keep referring
to Saturday's show.
--
Dave W

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 by: MB - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 23:28 UTC

On 29/11/2021 23:14, Dave W wrote:
> What makes you think the show's not live? They do ask for viewers to
> vote, which they couldn't do on a recording. What I find fascinating
> is how the results show on Sunday, which is recorded half an hour
> after the Saturday live show ends, manages to pretend it's taking
> place on Sunday. The presenters wear new costumes and keep referring
> to Saturday's show.

I think it can be more than half an hour. I have not watched for the
last two years, since they went all woke, but I used to have a look
online on Saturday to see who had won and the time varied a lot, it
could be quite late some weeks. Much more than thirty minutes after the
main show.

I believe it is not unusual for panel and games programmes to record
several programmes on the same day and people to change clothes for each
programme.

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 by: Owen Rees - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 02:00 UTC

Tony Gamble <tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera
> 360 degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without
> showing any other cameras?
>
> Does anyone have any pointers to show how they are now able to create
> those scenic changes? I realise it is all done with electronics of one
> type or another - but the tree that appeared on Saturday's set and
> came/went in less than two minutes of screen time was quite impressive.
>
> My observation is that now the Saturday night part does not even pretend
> to be 'live' it give much more time to make the show - without boring an
> audience to tears.
>
> Clearly a lot of talent and hard work - most impressive!
>
> Tony
> Ex RTV and LWT
>
>

There was a piece on It Takes Two last week where the Series Director
explained how they do things. Available on iPlayer as a separate segment at
the moment.

There is some augmented reality. Mo-Sys is credited for it in the end
credits of week 10 results.

My impression was that they have a very well organised props crew who move
physical scenery very quickly and the camera work is choreographed as
carefully as the dances.

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 by: Roderick Stewart - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:14 UTC

On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 20:20:13 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Tony Gamble" <tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>news:j0km7dFnoipU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera 360
>> degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without showing any
>> other cameras?
>
>I've seen in some drama productions the camera circle 360 degrees round a
>pair of actors during their scene. If the camera is tilted up enough, they
>can use a circular track with the camera dolly on it, but I've seen some
>where a track would be in shot, so it can only be a steadicam operator
>walking around them *very* smoothly - or else a camera on an overhead
>crane...

Or a drone. Even some of the little recreational ones you can buy for
a few hundred quid have quite astonishing stability. I've seen
stationary shots that you'd think were locked-off tripod shots, and
with the appropriate software they can also be programmed to follow
prescribed routes, so I should think a 360 shot would be easy.

Rod.

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 by: Tony Gamble - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:17 UTC

On 29/11/2021 23:14, Dave W wrote:

>
> On BBC2's 'Strictly It Takes Two' on weekdays I've seen rehearsals
> where one cameraman with a steadycam and trainers runs around the
> dancers, so there will not be any other cameras on the floor. All
> other cameras are in the dark amongst the audience so can't be seen.
>
That's interesting and a post later than your mentions where there might
be an iPlayer clip showing it.

> The scenic changes are superimposed electronically and would not be
> seen by any audience on set.

Really clever then. There was quite a large tree on last Saturday's
sequence. to move it in and out would have been a challenge. If it is
done electronically I am most impressed.
>
> What makes you think the show's not live? They do ask for viewers to
> vote, which they couldn't do on a recording. What I find fascinating
> is how the results show on Sunday, which is recorded half an hour
> after the Saturday live show ends, manages to pretend it's taking
> place on Sunday. The presenters wear new costumes and keep referring
> to Saturday's show.
>
Why not live? My response is, if you have no audience, why do it live?

As regards voting the viewer votes can happen any time once the
'recording' is aired. And the cynic in me questions how important those
votes are. If I were producing the programme I would be focussed on
viewer figures. Few people I know rated Dan Walker's effort last Saturdy
as passable - but he is a good audience puller and if he were dropped
there would be viewers who lost interest. The point of the programme is
to pull the biggest audience and not the greatest dancer. Sorry if I
offend the non cynics but I'd rather be honest about the way I see tv
programming.

I can assure you that was the attitude in the sixties....

Tony
RTV and LWT

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 by: Tony Gamble - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:21 UTC

On 30/11/2021 02:00, Owen Rees wrote:

>
> There was a piece on It Takes Two last week where the Series Director
> explained how they do things. Available on iPlayer as a separate segment at
> the moment.
>
> There is some augmented reality. Mo-Sys is credited for it in the end
> credits of week 10 results.
>
> My impression was that they have a very well organised props crew who move
> physical scenery very quickly and the camera work is choreographed as
> carefully as the dances.
>
>
Thanks Owen. I've have a rummage around for that iPlayer clip.

And also see if there are some promos for Mo-Sys as that sort of thing
fascinates me. Years ago I was invited to the BBC R&D place and saw the
earlier evolvement of those virtual reality studios.

Tony

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 by: Tony Gamble - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:24 UTC

On 30/11/2021 09:14, Roderick Stewart wrote:

>
> Or a drone. Even some of the little recreational ones you can buy for
> a few hundred quid have quite astonishing stability. I've seen
> stationary shots that you'd think were locked-off tripod shots, and
> with the appropriate software they can also be programmed to follow
> prescribed routes, so I should think a 360 shot would be easy.
>
> Rod.
>
Interesting suggestion Rod.

T

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:31 UTC

On 30/11/2021 09:24, Tony Gamble wrote:
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> On 30/11/2021 09:14, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Or a drone. Even some of the little recreational ones you can buy for
>> a few hundred quid have quite astonishing stability. I've seen
>> stationary shots that you'd think were locked-off tripod shots, and
>> with the appropriate software they can also be programmed to follow
>> prescribed routes, so I should think a 360 shot would be easy.
>
> Interesting suggestion Rod.

But too much noise, surely?

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Dave W wrote:

> The scenic changes are superimposed electronically and would not be
> seen by any audience on set.

I accidentally saw part of a show sometime last year, all sorts of pointless
effects such as bolts of "electricity" shooting along the dancers' limbs.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:23 UTC

Well I'd not know for certain, but a lot of concerts you see these days I'm
told never see any other cameras, so no idea of how they do that.
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> Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera 360
> degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without showing any
> other cameras?
>
> Does anyone have any pointers to show how they are now able to create
> those scenic changes? I realise it is all done with electronics of one
> type or another - but the tree that appeared on Saturday's set and
> came/went in less than two minutes of screen time was quite impressive.
>
> My observation is that now the Saturday night part does not even pretend
> to be 'live' it give much more time to make the show - without boring an
> audience to tears.
>
> Clearly a lot of talent and hard work - most impressive!
>
> Tony
> Ex RTV and LWT
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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:24 UTC

Or a very stable quiet drone?
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> "Tony Gamble" <tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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>> Can someone point me to a URL showing how they manage to spin a camera
>> 360 degrees round a dance couple on Strictly Come Dancing without showing
>> any other cameras?
>
> I've seen in some drama productions the camera circle 360 degrees round a
> pair of actors during their scene. If the camera is tilted up enough, they
> can use a circular track with the camera dolly on it, but I've seen some
> where a track would be in shot, so it can only be a steadicam operator
> walking around them *very* smoothly - or else a camera on an overhead
> crane...

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 by: Owen Rees - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 21:27 UTC

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:21:57 +0000, Tony Gamble
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>On 30/11/2021 02:00, Owen Rees wrote:
>
>>
>> There was a piece on It Takes Two last week where the Series Director
>> explained how they do things. Available on iPlayer as a separate segment at
>> the moment.
>>
>> There is some augmented reality. Mo-Sys is credited for it in the end
>> credits of week 10 results.
>>
>> My impression was that they have a very well organised props crew who move
>> physical scenery very quickly and the camera work is choreographed as
>> carefully as the dances.
>>
>>
>Thanks Owen. I've have a rummage around for that iPlayer clip.

The clip is at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b6kt59 it was included
in episode 44 broadcast on 25th November.

>
>And also see if there are some promos for Mo-Sys as that sort of thing
>fascinates me. Years ago I was invited to the BBC R&D place and saw the
>earlier evolvement of those virtual reality studios.

There was a segment on tonight's It Takes Two about the augmented
reality pro dance with virtual robots. A Senior Designer from Potion
Pictures described what they did. Potion Pictures are credited for 'live
graphics' on Strictly each week.

https://www.mo-sys.com/case-study/strictly-augmented-reality/ is about
Mo-Sys collaborating with Potion Pictures on the augmented reality used
in SCD.

It is amazing what they can do.

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 by: Dave W - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:14 UTC

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:17:40 +0000, Tony Gamble
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>On 29/11/2021 23:14, Dave W wrote:
>
>>
>> On BBC2's 'Strictly It Takes Two' on weekdays I've seen rehearsals
>> where one cameraman with a steadycam and trainers runs around the
>> dancers, so there will not be any other cameras on the floor. All
>> other cameras are in the dark amongst the audience so can't be seen.
>>
>That's interesting and a post later than your mentions where there might
>be an iPlayer clip showing it.
>
>> The scenic changes are superimposed electronically and would not be
>> seen by any audience on set.
>
>Really clever then. There was quite a large tree on last Saturday's
>sequence. to move it in and out would have been a challenge. If it is
>done electronically I am most impressed.
>>
>> What makes you think the show's not live? They do ask for viewers to
>> vote, which they couldn't do on a recording. What I find fascinating
>> is how the results show on Sunday, which is recorded half an hour
>> after the Saturday live show ends, manages to pretend it's taking
>> place on Sunday. The presenters wear new costumes and keep referring
>> to Saturday's show.
>>
>Why not live? My response is, if you have no audience, why do it live?
>
>As regards voting the viewer votes can happen any time once the
>'recording' is aired. And the cynic in me questions how important those
>votes are. If I were producing the programme I would be focussed on
>viewer figures. Few people I know rated Dan Walker's effort last Saturdy
>as passable - but he is a good audience puller and if he were dropped
>there would be viewers who lost interest. The point of the programme is
>to pull the biggest audience and not the greatest dancer. Sorry if I
>offend the non cynics but I'd rather be honest about the way I see tv
>programming.
>
>I can assure you that was the attitude in the sixties....
>
>Tony
>RTV and LWT
True, the whole thing could be a recording, but viewers votes have to
be received before the results show is recorded. They do give a
deadline for viewers votes, but that could be red herring.
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><tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote in <j0m8pmF29qtU1@mid.individual.net>:
>
>>On 30/11/2021 02:00, Owen Rees wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There was a piece on It Takes Two last week where the Series Director
>>> explained how they do things. Available on iPlayer as a separate segment at
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>> There is some augmented reality. Mo-Sys is credited for it in the end
>>> credits of week 10 results.
>>>
>>> My impression was that they have a very well organised props crew who move
>>> physical scenery very quickly and the camera work is choreographed as
>>> carefully as the dances.
>>>
>>>
>>Thanks Owen. I've have a rummage around for that iPlayer clip.
>
>The clip is at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b6kt59 it was included
>in episode 44 broadcast on 25th November.
>
>>
>>And also see if there are some promos for Mo-Sys as that sort of thing
>>fascinates me. Years ago I was invited to the BBC R&D place and saw the
>>earlier evolvement of those virtual reality studios.
>
>There was a segment on tonight's It Takes Two about the augmented
>reality pro dance with virtual robots. A Senior Designer from Potion
>Pictures described what they did. Potion Pictures are credited for 'live
>graphics' on Strictly each week.
>
>https://www.mo-sys.com/case-study/strictly-augmented-reality/ is about
>Mo-Sys collaborating with Potion Pictures on the augmented reality used
>in SCD.
>
>It is amazing what they can do.
I also saw It Takes Two, and was surprised at the robots, which I
hadn't noticed as I never pay much attention to the show-off opening
dance which is recorded in advance anyway.
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 by: Roderick Stewart - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 11:02 UTC

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:31:29 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
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>On 30/11/2021 09:24, Tony Gamble wrote:
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>> On 30/11/2021 09:14, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>>
>>> Or a drone. Even some of the little recreational ones you can buy for
>>> a few hundred quid have quite astonishing stability. I've seen
>>> stationary shots that you'd think were locked-off tripod shots, and
>>> with the appropriate software they can also be programmed to follow
>>> prescribed routes, so I should think a 360 shot would be easy.
>>
>> Interesting suggestion Rod.
>
>But too much noise, surely?

Depends on the requirements of the scene. How close does the camera
have to be? Could the dialogue be looped? Does the shot contain
dialogue at all? Does the camera just do a circle (which you could do
on tracks or Steadycam) or does it then have to pull back and rise up
to a huge wide shot without a break? There are lots of possibilities
and a drone wouldn't be right for all of them, but they do seem to be
used quite a lot lately.

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 by: Roderick Stewart - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 11:10 UTC

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 13:14:06 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
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>Dave W wrote:
>
>> The scenic changes are superimposed electronically and would not be
>> seen by any audience on set.
>
>I accidentally saw part of a show sometime last year, all sorts of pointless
>effects such as bolts of "electricity" shooting along the dancers' limbs.

Yuck. I've never watched this show but from descriptions here and
elsewhere it sounds awful. The old superhero superpower lighning
effect is beyond cheesy, even when it's meant to signify something.
It's probably so easy to add this sort of nonsense in the edit
nowadays that they just do it because they can.

Rod.

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 by: Tony Gamble - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:33 UTC

On 01/12/2021 11:10, Roderick Stewart wrote:

>
> Yuck. I've never watched this show but from descriptions here and
> elsewhere it sounds awful. The old superhero superpower lighning
> effect is beyond cheesy, even when it's meant to signify something.
> It's probably so easy to add this sort of nonsense in the edit
> nowadays that they just do it because they can.
>
> Rod.
>
Have a look at it sometime Rod if you are interested in what the
technology is capable of these days.

And look at the support websites and you will see it is done real time
and not in a post edit.

Cheesey yes - but fascinating.

T

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 by: Roderick Stewart - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 17:05 UTC

On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:33:11 +0000, Tony Gamble
<tonygamble@compuserve.com> wrote:

>On 01/12/2021 11:10, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>
>>
>> Yuck. I've never watched this show but from descriptions here and
>> elsewhere it sounds awful. The old superhero superpower lighning
>> effect is beyond cheesy, even when it's meant to signify something.
>> It's probably so easy to add this sort of nonsense in the edit
>> nowadays that they just do it because they can.
>>
>> Rod.
>>
>Have a look at it sometime Rod if you are interested in what the
>technology is capable of these days.
>
>And look at the support websites and you will see it is done real time
>and not in a post edit.
>
>Cheesey yes - but fascinating.
>
>T

I've seen the efforts of some of the Youtube programme creators, such
as Corridor, and the special effects they can now do on what a
Hollywood movie company would probably regard as a small budget is
very impressive. However, I can only stand so much special effect
wizardry, and often find my self yearning for a well written drama
with a meaningful story and a good script.

Rod.

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