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* Years spent building structures with software that's becoming obsolete.Mike Halmarack
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From: mikehalm...@gmail.com (Mike Halmarack)
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Subject: Years spent building structures with software that's becoming obsolete.
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 by: Mike Halmarack - Thu, 12 Jan 2023 12:30 UTC

Classic Shell for instance. It does still work ATM but is said to be
at the end of its development. Does anyone think that the standard Win
10/11 start menu is structured for the user's benefit? I can't see it.

My main problem though is with Dexpot, the best virtual desktop app
for Window I ever found. Recently the Desktop Manager ribbon has
become awfully minute on a couple of my Win 10 PCs.
No developments since 2017 and even folks who've donated can't get a
solution to this problem implemented.

Is there anything like a standard way of enlarging a certain feature
of such a program, that could be done by outside influences?
--

Mike

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From: jgnew...@outlook.com (Jeff Gaines)
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Subject: Re: Years spent building structures with software that's becoming obsolete.
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Thu, 12 Jan 2023 14:08 UTC

On 12/01/2023 in message <jfuvrh5b88jt2d3fkvcedbuie6d6s0m96h@4ax.com> Mike
Halmarack wrote:

>Classic Shell for instance. It does still work ATM but is said to be
>at the end of its development. Does anyone think that the standard Win
>10/11 start menu is structured for the user's benefit? I can't see it.

Now open source and going strong:

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.

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 by: Adrian Caspersz - Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:28 UTC

On 12/01/2023 12:30, Mike Halmarack wrote:
> Classic Shell for instance. It does still work ATM but is said to be
> at the end of its development. Does anyone think that the standard Win
> 10/11 start menu is structured for the user's benefit? I can't see it.
>
> My main problem though is with Dexpot, the best virtual desktop app
> for Window I ever found. Recently the Desktop Manager ribbon has
> become awfully minute on a couple of my Win 10 PCs.
> No developments since 2017 and even folks who've donated can't get a
> solution to this problem implemented.

I'd make a Linux-window hybrid, having virtualised windows as a
subsystem to a saner linux desktop environment, delivering multiple
windows application window frames over either RDP or VNC.

The entire opposite to Microsoft's WSL intentions, it's what I do daily
- main machine is Debian XFCE, with windows stuff occasionally popping
up and dismissed.
>
> Is there anything like a standard way of enlarging a certain feature
> of such a program, that could be done by outside influences?

Crap native way. Stick the ribbon under the windows magnifier
application? :-p

There is even an API for that but it is 32-bit only, and probably
renders a pixelated mess.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winauto/magapi/magapi-intro

--
Adrian C

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Subject: Re: Years spent building structures with software that's becoming obsolete.
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 by: Mike Halmarack - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:39 UTC

On 12 Jan 2023 14:08:40 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

>On 12/01/2023 in message <jfuvrh5b88jt2d3fkvcedbuie6d6s0m96h@4ax.com> Mike
>Halmarack wrote:
>
>>Classic Shell for instance. It does still work ATM but is said to be
>>at the end of its development. Does anyone think that the standard Win
>>10/11 start menu is structured for the user's benefit? I can't see it.
>
>Now open source and going strong:
>
>https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Ta muchly
--

Mike

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 by: Mike Halmarack - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:41 UTC

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:28:05 +0000, Adrian Caspersz
<email@here.invalid> wrote:

>On 12/01/2023 12:30, Mike Halmarack wrote:
>> Classic Shell for instance. It does still work ATM but is said to be
>> at the end of its development. Does anyone think that the standard Win
>> 10/11 start menu is structured for the user's benefit? I can't see it.
>>
>> My main problem though is with Dexpot, the best virtual desktop app
>> for Window I ever found. Recently the Desktop Manager ribbon has
>> become awfully minute on a couple of my Win 10 PCs.
>> No developments since 2017 and even folks who've donated can't get a
>> solution to this problem implemented.
>
>I'd make a Linux-window hybrid, having virtualised windows as a
>subsystem to a saner linux desktop environment, delivering multiple
>windows application window frames over either RDP or VNC.
>
>The entire opposite to Microsoft's WSL intentions, it's what I do daily
>- main machine is Debian XFCE, with windows stuff occasionally popping
>up and dismissed.
>>
>> Is there anything like a standard way of enlarging a certain feature
>> of such a program, that could be done by outside influences?
>
>Crap native way. Stick the ribbon under the windows magnifier
>application? :-p
>
>There is even an API for that but it is 32-bit only, and probably
>renders a pixelated mess.
>
>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winauto/magapi/magapi-intro

Thanks for the interesting, if big job, solutions.
--

Mike

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 by: Vir Campestris - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:34 UTC

On 13/01/2023 18:28, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> I'd make a Linux-window hybrid, having virtualised windows as a
> subsystem to a saner linux desktop environment, delivering multiple
> windows application window frames over either RDP or VNC.

I've switched to Linux, and put my old Windows install from my old PC in
a VM.

A few things don't work - I haven't yet got it to talk to my PVR over
the network, and it won't talk to the USB digitiser I want to grab all
my VHS tapes. But I'm sure I'll work it out in the end...

Andy

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