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Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making their lives hell'.

During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of Infrastructure.

However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near their homes.

They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass from them.

Speaking to Belfast Live (link is external), Irene Cowan, who lives on the road, said: "We just want rid of them, they are causing us nothing but bother.

"There are many elderly residents who live in the bungalows along the road here and none of us are (sic) able to get ambulances to arrive safely outside of our homes. There is one poor gentleman battling cancer and it is terrible to see him struggle out of the house to try and get taken to the hospital.

"I even saw an ambulance coming down the road with its blue lights on recently and cars weren't able to get out of the way for it because there was nowhere they could go.

"Delivery drivers can't park near our homes either to drop off parcels or the shopping. These bollards are doing nothing but getting in the way and making things harder for people."

Another woman, Natalie Fletcher, said there were a number of other issues arising from the bollards being in place, as they have stopped cyclists from using the cycle lanes as often and there have been cases of children "leapfrogging" them when playing together.

She added: "Cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes now because they get punctures with all of the glass in them.

"Most of them are on the footpath which means we are always having to watch ourselves when coming out of the house because some people fly down the hill."

A spokesperson said: "A number of our drivers have complained they have found it very difficult to turn out of certain streets due to the bollards restricting their ability to turn. There have been a number of near crashes as a result of this.

"Our elderly customers are also finding it difficult to be picked up and dropped off."

South Belfast MLA Christopher Stalford and Botanic councillor Tracey Kelly have been engaging with local residents who have found issues with the bollards and have asked the Department of Infrastructure that they be removed.

Councillor Kelly said: "There are a lot of elderly residents that live along this stretch of the Donegall Road and it would have been a regular occurrence to see an ambulance, doctor's car or hospital transport parked along here to care for them.

"They should not have to worry about whether or not an ambulance will be able to come to their home.

"This is not an issue with the cycle lane, which has worked very well for years prior to these bollards being installed. The cycle lanes are not able to be cleansed properly, many cyclists are avoiding the lanes as they are strewn with glass and other objects that may cause punctures. This is forcing cyclists onto the footpath and endangering pedestrians."

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On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making their lives hell'.
>
> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of Infrastructure.
>
> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near their homes.
>
> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass from them.
>

Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'

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 by: TMS320 - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:41 UTC

On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
>> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
>> their lives hell'.
>>
>> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
>> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
>> Infrastructure.
>>
>> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
>> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
>> their homes.
>>
>> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
>> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
>> from them.
>>
>
> Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
> broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
>

Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two parking
lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a convenient
short cut between the A24 and A12.

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:58 UTC

On Monday, 13 September 2021 at 12:41:42 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
> On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
> >> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
> >> their lives hell'.
> >>
> >> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
> >> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
> >> Infrastructure.
> >>
> >> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
> >> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
> >> their homes.
> >>
> >> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
> >> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
> >> from them.
> >>
> >
> > Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
> > broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
> >
> Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two parking
> lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a convenient
> short cut between the A24 and A12.

Far too many motorists think the public road adjacent to their property is for their own personal use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_L6Ani0oZQ
Even Nugent\Pounder agrees with this.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:08 UTC

On 13/09/2021 12:58 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Monday, 13 September 2021 at 12:41:42 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:

>>>> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
>>>> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
>>>> their lives hell'.
>>>>
>>>> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
>>>> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
>>>> Infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
>>>> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
>>>> their homes.
>>>>
>>>> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
>>>> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
>>>> from them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
>>> broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
>>>
>> Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two parking
>> lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a convenient
>> short cut between the A24 and A12.
>
> Far too many motorists think the public road adjacent to their property is for their own personal use.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_L6Ani0oZQ
> Even Nugent\Pounder agrees with this.

Stopping, even on a double-yellow line, is not necessarily an offence.
sometimes, it cannot be (and should not be) avoided.

The obvious cases where it would be lawful would involve passengers
getting in or out of a vehicle or a vehicle coming to a halt because it
is broken down. Stopping "waiting" by the use of yellow line
restrictions is all well and good, but rendering it unsafe to get out of
a taxi outside one's home (by denying access to the kerb) cannot
possibly be sensible or acceptable.

Proportion and balance are needed.

Of course, one would not normally expect those from people like Mason,
Kahn, etc.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:03 UTC

On 13/09/2021 12:41 pm, TMS320 wrote:
> On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
>> On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
>>> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
>>> their lives hell'.
>>>
>>> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
>>> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
>>> Infrastructure.
>>>
>>> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
>>> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
>>> their homes.
>>>
>>> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
>>> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
>>> from them.
>>>
>>
>> Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
>> broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
>>
>
> Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two parking
> lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a convenient
> short cut between the A24 and A12.

A "convenient short-cut" between the A24 (Clapham Common to Worthing)
and the A12 (Poplar to Lowestoft)?

Did it avoid the so-called "Congestion" Zone?

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 by: TMS320 - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:33 UTC

On 13/09/2021 13:03, JNugent wrote:
> On 13/09/2021 12:41 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
>>>> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
>>>> their lives hell'.
>>>>
>>>> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
>>>> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
>>>> Infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
>>>> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
>>>> their homes.
>>>>
>>>> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
>>>> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
>>>> from them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
>>> broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two
>> parking lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a
>> convenient short cut between the A24 and A12.
>
> A "convenient short-cut" between the A24 (Clapham Common to Worthing)
> and the A12 (Poplar to Lowestoft)?

They link up in Belfast.

> Did it avoid the so-called "Congestion" Zone?

Motorists produce congestion zones everywhere they go.

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From: jennings...@fastmail.fm (JNugent)
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Subject: Re: Residents claim cycle lane bollards are 'making life hell'
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:35:59 +0100
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 by: JNugent - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:35 UTC

On 13/09/2021 01:33 pm, TMS320 wrote:
> On 13/09/2021 13:03, JNugent wrote:
>> On 13/09/2021 12:41 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>> On 12/09/2021 14:52, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, 12 September 2021 at 14:07:16 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Residents in South Belfast say new cycle lane bollards are
>>>>> preventing ambulances stopping outside their homes and 'making
>>>>> their lives hell'.
>>>>>
>>>>> During the pandemic, bollards were placed along the roadside edge
>>>>> of the cycle lane along Donegall Road by the Department of
>>>>> Infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> However local residents claim the bollards have caused difficulties
>>>>> because ambulances, deliveries and taxis are unable to stop near
>>>>> their homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> They also allege that cyclists have stopped using the cycle lanes
>>>>> due to puncture fears as street sweepers are unable to clear glass
>>>>> from them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Translated, 'we are no longer able to illegally park and we have put
>>>> broken glass on the cycleway out of childish spite.'
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Streetview shows how an old high street was marked with two
>>> parking lanes for the few people that don't want to use the road as a
>>> convenient short cut between the A24 and A12.
>>
>> A "convenient short-cut" between the A24 (Clapham Common to Worthing)
>> and the A12 (Poplar to Lowestoft)?
>
> They link up in Belfast.

Touché!
>
>> Did it avoid the so-called "Congestion" Zone?
>
> Motorists produce congestion zones everywhere they go.


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