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* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
+- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsTheo
+* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsRecliner
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| +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsRecliner
| |`* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsNobody
| | `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsAnna Noyd-Dryver
| |  `- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsKen
| `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsAnna Noyd-Dryver
|  `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsKen
|   `- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
`* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMuttley
 `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
  `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMuttley
   `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
    +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsTheo
    |`* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsRecliner
    | `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
    |  `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsRecliner
    |   +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsCharles Ellson
    |   |`- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsmartin.coffee
    |   `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsGraeme Wall
    |    +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
    |    |`- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsGraeme Wall
    |    `* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsColinR
    |     `- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
    +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsAnna Noyd-Dryver
    |`- Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
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     +* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMarland
     |`* Weymouth Station forecourt improvementsMuttley
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 by: Ken - Sun, 22 May 2022 18:51 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 13:53:20 -0000 (UTC), Anna Noyd-Dryver
<anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:

>Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 15:44:10 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:51:12 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These have been going on sometime and progress is listed here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.dorsetcoasthaveyoursay.co.uk/weymouth-gateway/widgets/38267/faqs>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As part of the final phase the last stub of the harbour branch which still
>>>>>> has track is being cleared
>>>>>> of debris and will become a pedestrian and cycle path with some track left
>>>>>> in place as a marker to its history.
>>>>>> At the time of writing the colour light signal that signalled trains off
>>>>>> the branch is still showing red like it has done since May 1999 since the
>>>>>> last train travelled over the now removed Tramway.
>>>>>> Have any other signals been left active on an unused ,then closed and
>>>>
>>>>>> mainly lifted line for so long?
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a picture of that famously redundant sign on Twitter:
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/paulcliftonbbc/status/1527589800752160768?s=21&t=8ajzKTlycd2CKNEaQ4WTvA>
>>>>
>>>> "Which I love for being so completely pointless." Someone's on track.
>>>>
>>>> Being that old, one would think the likely incandescent bulb inside
>>>> would've burned out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It probably has done, multiple times, and been duly replaced. As one of the
>>> tweets in the thread says:
>>>
>>> If it wasn't lit, the "is the signal lit" sensor would detect it, and the
>>> interlocking would panic and lock down the surrounding active railway
>>> lines. It's probably simpler to leave it there than to modify the
>>> interlocking…
>>
>> Years back, during Usenet average-user heydays, a poster to a.b.p.rail
>> from New Zealand used to travel a lot near the North Island Main Trunk
>> Line. His clue of a photo op was that the CTC signals were 'lit'. The
>> system was visually turned off if no traffic was active.
>>
>
>Different systems have different methods of working!
>
>I know of a handful of approach-lit [1] signals on NR and LU, provided for
>specific local circumstances.

Simsig shows quite a few in Scotland, normally in loops.
>
>[1] the signal needs to be proved to be lit before the route can be set
>towards it.
>
>
>Anna Noyd-Dryver

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 by: Ken - Sun, 22 May 2022 18:53 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 13:53:19 -0000 (UTC), Anna Noyd-Dryver
<anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:

>Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:51:12 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These have been going on sometime and progress is listed here
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.dorsetcoasthaveyoursay.co.uk/weymouth-gateway/widgets/38267/faqs>
>>>>
>>>> As part of the final phase the last stub of the harbour branch which still
>>>> has track is being cleared
>>>> of debris and will become a pedestrian and cycle path with some track left
>>>> in place as a marker to its history.
>>>> At the time of writing the colour light signal that signalled trains off
>>>> the branch is still showing red like it has done since May 1999 since the
>>>> last train travelled over the now removed Tramway.
>>>> Have any other signals been left active on an unused ,then closed and
>>
>>>> mainly lifted line for so long?
>>>
>>> There's a picture of that famously redundant sign on Twitter:
>>> <https://twitter.com/paulcliftonbbc/status/1527589800752160768?s=21&t=8ajzKTlycd2CKNEaQ4WTvA>
>>
>> "Which I love for being so completely pointless." Someone's on track.
>>
>> Being that old, one would think the likely incandescent bulb inside
>> would've burned out.
>>
>
>It will have still been lit because it was interlocked with the signalling
>system; so it will have been replaced whenever it failed, and IIRC filament
>lamps are replaced routinely before failure anyway.
>
As it's on permanently the life of the filament is probably
considerably longer than those on a multi-aspect head where trains
actually pass.
>
>Anna Noyd-Dryver

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 by: Marland - Sun, 22 May 2022 19:37 UTC

Ken <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2022 13:53:19 -0000 (UTC), Anna Noyd-Dryver
> <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>

>>> Being that old, one would think the likely incandescent bulb inside
>>> would've burned out.
>>>
>>
>> It will have still been lit because it was interlocked with the signalling
>> system; so it will have been replaced whenever it failed, and IIRC filament
>> lamps are replaced routinely before failure anyway.
>>
> As it's on permanently the life of the filament is probably
> considerably longer than those on a multi-aspect head where trains
> actually pass.
>>

Are such signals powered by AC or DC?

Though a constantly lit lamp will not have the thermal stresses one being
switched experiences
if it is on DC you get electro-migration where one end of the filament
thickens while the other gets thinner till it fails.
On AC an under run filament lamp can remain lit for a very long time.

GH

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On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>
>> Disrupt how?
>>
>They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in

You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.

>regular use with people leaving cars too close
>which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>Morris 1100’s.
>A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>link .

Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
countries.

Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
might be a nice idea? When other cities are regretting ripping up tram lines
back in the 50s weymouth blithley rips up an asset they're too stupid to
try and use.

>safety is mentioned it can bring up cries of derision but running a train
>within feet of pedestrians crowding around the area some of whom will be
>young children with no road sense and others people semi inebriated from
>the waterfront bars is not the wisest thing to do unless you can employ a
>large team of people to walk alongside and keep them back.

I guess there must be multiple deaths every day in cities with trams them.

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 by: Marland - Mon, 23 May 2022 10:25 UTC

<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>
>>> Disrupt how?
>>>
>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>
> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>
>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>> Morris 1100’s.
>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>> link .
>
> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
> countries.
But not this one, no matter how much you pointlessly pontificate .
And where do you push it to in streets that are narrow ,into other
vehicles that were parked correctly or into the harbour?
>
> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
> might be a nice idea?
>
FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea
front,and the harbour station site about half a mile through the Town
streets , Yet you would propose a Disney World like tram which has no
historic precedent going along a route that for a good part of its mile and
a bit
route would be as interesting to ride as a Dotto Train service around the
unloading bays of Brent Cross shopping Centre.

When other cities are regretting ripping up tram lines
> back in the 50s weymouth blithley rips up an asset they're too stupid to
> try and use.

I never thought you were such a Rail Anorak that just because some obsolete
metals remained in place you had to find a way to use them even though
there was no practical point in doing so.
It was only the regular passage of full size passenger trains that made
the Weymouth Quay line stand out from numerous other lines in the roadway
that once existed around the country and made it an interesting Track Bash.
You could not have recreated that with anything else anymore than you
could set up a display on dinosaurs using stuffed lizards with a note that
says “They were similar to this but bigger”.

GH

>> safety is mentioned it can bring up cries of derision but running a train
>> within feet of pedestrians crowding around the area some of whom will be
>> young children with no road sense and others people semi inebriated from
>> the waterfront bars is not the wisest thing to do unless you can employ a
>> large team of people to walk alongside and keep them back.
>
> I guess there must be multiple deaths every day in cities with trams them.
>
You know full well that trams and mainline trains are constructed
differently ,the former are designed
to run on streets where pedestrians are present ,our trains are not.

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 by: Anna Noyd-Dryver - Mon, 23 May 2022 10:29 UTC

<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>
>>> Disrupt how?
>>>
>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>
> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>
>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>> Morris 1100’s.
>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>> link .
>
> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
> countries.
>
> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
> might be a nice idea?

The beach is 150m from the station. Closer, indeed, to the station
entrance, than a new platform on the tramway would be.

The tramway ran around 1.5 miles, half of it through dingy industrial
areas, to reach one end of the beach only half that distance from the
station.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

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 by: Graeme Wall - Mon, 23 May 2022 10:30 UTC

On 23/05/2022 10:09, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>
>>> Disrupt how?
>>>
>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>
> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>
>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>> Morris 1100’s.
>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>> link .
>
> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
> countries.
>
> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
> might be a nice idea? When other cities are regretting ripping up tram lines
> back in the 50s weymouth blithley rips up an asset they're too stupid to
> try and use.

You've obviously never been to Weymouth, the tramway actually takes you
further from the beach than the main station.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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 by: ColinR - Mon, 23 May 2022 12:40 UTC

On 23/05/2022 10:09, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>
>>> Disrupt how?
>>>
>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>
> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>
>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>> Morris 1100’s.
>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>> link .
>
> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
> countries.
>
> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
> might be a nice idea? When other cities are regretting ripping up tram lines
> back in the 50s weymouth blithley rips up an asset they're too stupid to
> try and use.
>

The harbour line was built to service the harbour. The beach is far
better served by the mainline station. No harbour traffic = no need for
the tramway.

--
Colin

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 23 May 2022 15:36 UTC

On 23 May 2022 10:25:50 GMT
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
>> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
>> countries.
>But not this one, no matter how much you pointlessly pontificate .

Oh, are laws cast in stone then?

>And where do you push it to in streets that are narrow ,into other
>vehicles that were parked correctly or into the harbour?

I suspect they'd get shoved a few inches at most.

>> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
>> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
>> might be a nice idea?
>>
>FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea

I don't have to look at a map, I've stayed there twice you fucking tool and
its a popular holiday destination where a tram ride would add to the ambience.

>It was only the regular passage of full size passenger trains that made
>the Weymouth Quay line stand out from numerous other lines in the roadway
>that once existed around the country and made it an interesting Track Bash.
>You could not have recreated that with anything else anymore than you
>could set up a display on dinosaurs using stuffed lizards with a note that
>says “They were similar to this but bigger”.

I don't care about trash bashes or whatever you and your anorak wearing
friends get up to. Its a piece of expensive public infrastructure which could
have been used again.

>> I guess there must be multiple deaths every day in cities with trams them.
>>
>You know full well that trams and mainline trains are constructed
>differently ,the former are designed
>to run on streets where pedestrians are present ,our trains are not.

Ok, well go stand in front of a 60 ton tram when its moving at 20mph and see
what happens to you.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 23 May 2022 15:40 UTC

On Mon, 23 May 2022 10:29:52 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>>
>>>> Disrupt how?
>>>>
>>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>>
>> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>>
>>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>>> Morris 1100’s.
>>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>>> link .
>>
>> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
>> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
>> countries.
>>
>> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
>> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
>> might be a nice idea?
>
>The beach is 150m from the station. Closer, indeed, to the station
>entrance, than a new platform on the tramway would be.

Because no one ever wants to go to the funfair or pavillion at the quay which
is 800m from the station, right?

>The tramway ran around 1.5 miles, half of it through dingy industrial

Dingy? Not really.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 23 May 2022 15:41 UTC

On Mon, 23 May 2022 11:30:28 +0100
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 23/05/2022 10:09, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On 21 May 2022 17:41:31 GMT
>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>>> housing for much of the the route and then enjoying a feeling of
>>>>> schadenfreude as the train they are on for pleasure disrupts the life of
>>>>> those along the pretty harbour side bit.
>>>>
>>>> Disrupt how?
>>>>
>>> They would have to suspend parking to get a train through so the traders
>>> may lose income from visitors ,it was bad enough when the line was in
>>
>> You mean the hundreds of visitors who might be on the train? Try harder.
>>
>>> regular use with people leaving cars too close
>>> which had to be bumped out of the way and they were things like Vivas and
>>> Morris 1100’s.
>>> A modern car is usually much heavier and would need recovery vehicles to
>>> move, mean while you have a train gumming up a road which is an important
>>> link .
>>
>> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
>> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
>> countries.
>>
>> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
>> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
>> might be a nice idea? When other cities are regretting ripping up tram lines
>> back in the 50s weymouth blithley rips up an asset they're too stupid to
>> try and use.
>
>You've obviously never been to Weymouth, the tramway actually takes you
>further from the beach than the main station.

I've stayed there twice and the tramway went to the quay. If you've ever been
there instead of spouting BS just from looking at streetview like all the
others on here you'd know the quay is still a destination.

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 by: Sam Wilson - Mon, 23 May 2022 16:09 UTC

<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On 23 May 2022 10:25:50 GMT
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> Or alternatively put a sign up saying park at your own risk and if you block
>>> the train the 100 ton loco pushes it out the way. As is done in other
>>> countries.
>> But not this one, no matter how much you pointlessly pontificate .
>
> Oh, are laws cast in stone then?
>
>> And where do you push it to in streets that are narrow ,into other
>> vehicles that were parked correctly or into the harbour?
>
> I suspect they'd get shoved a few inches at most.
>
>>> Anyway, I never mentioned a train. Anyone thought that perhaps a battery
>>> powered tram or people mover to take people from the station to the beach
>>> might be a nice idea?
>>>
>> FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea
>
> I don't have to look at a map, I've stayed there twice you fucking tool and
> its a popular holiday destination where a tram ride would add to the ambience.
>
>> It was only the regular passage of full size passenger trains that made
>> the Weymouth Quay line stand out from numerous other lines in the roadway
>> that once existed around the country and made it an interesting Track Bash.
>> You could not have recreated that with anything else anymore than you
>> could set up a display on dinosaurs using stuffed lizards with a note that
>> says “They were similar to this but bigger”.
>
> I don't care about trash bashes or whatever you and your anorak wearing
> friends get up to. Its a piece of expensive public infrastructure which could
> have been used again.
>
>>> I guess there must be multiple deaths every day in cities with trams them.
>>>
>> You know full well that trams and mainline trains are constructed
>> differently ,the former are designed
>> to run on streets where pedestrians are present ,our trains are not.
>
> Ok, well go stand in front of a 60 ton tram when its moving at 20mph and see
> what happens to you.

Assuming the driver applies the emergency brake in time it will stop more
quickly than a rubber tyred vehicle would. By standing in front of it you
might actually be endangering the passengers.

Sam

--
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<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>
>> FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea
>
> I don't have to look at a map, I've stayed there twice you fucking tool and
> its a popular holiday destination where a tram ride would add to the ambience.
>

You ought to go again ,they probably need a new stubborn Donkey for the
Summer to give rides on the beach.
Stubborn Donkey@ could be your new moniker.

If it was just me telling you that its quicker to reach the Harbour by
walking from the main station
along the Seafront or through the streets rather than taking a longer slow
ride around the back road on a fake tram with a view of the bus garage
being a high point you would not look so daft, but others have told you the
same thing.
If you want to go on digging a large hole the sand at Weymouth is nice and
soft.
The other visitors would find it amusing ,a role you seem to enjoy as you
continue to act the clown on here.

GH

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 by: Graeme Wall - Mon, 23 May 2022 17:57 UTC

On 23/05/2022 17:44, Marland wrote:
> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>
>>> FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea
>>
>> I don't have to look at a map, I've stayed there twice you fucking tool and
>> its a popular holiday destination where a tram ride would add to the ambience.
>>
>
> You ought to go again ,they probably need a new stubborn Donkey for the
> Summer to give rides on the beach.
> Stubborn Donkey@ could be your new moniker.
>
> If it was just me telling you that its quicker to reach the Harbour by
> walking from the main station
> along the Seafront or through the streets rather than taking a longer slow
> ride around the back road on a fake tram with a view of the bus garage
> being a high point you would not look so daft, but others have told you the
> same thing.
> If you want to go on digging a large hole the sand at Weymouth is nice and
> soft.
> The other visitors would find it amusing ,a role you seem to enjoy as you
> continue to act the clown on here.
>

The mechanical clown that was on the seafront when I were a lad is long
gone, could do with a replacement.

--
Graeme Wall
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From: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com
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Subject: Re: Weymouth Station forecourt improvements
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 07:02:29 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Tue, 24 May 2022 07:02 UTC

On 23 May 2022 16:44:17 GMT
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>
>>> FFS go and look at a map, the main station is only about 600ft from the sea
>>
>> I don't have to look at a map, I've stayed there twice you fucking tool and
>> its a popular holiday destination where a tram ride would add to the
>ambience.
>>
>
>You ought to go again ,they probably need a new stubborn Donkey for the
>Summer to give rides on the beach.
>Stubborn Donkey@ could be your new moniker.

Tres drole.

>If it was just me telling you that its quicker to reach the Harbour by
>walking from the main station
>along the Seafront or through the streets rather than taking a longer slow

Do you know how long the seafront is?

>ride around the back road on a fake tram with a view of the bus garage

Why would it be fake? Plus the track passed part of the main shopping area.

>being a high point you would not look so daft, but others have told you the
>same thing.
>If you want to go on digging a large hole the sand at Weymouth is nice and
>soft.
>The other visitors would find it amusing ,a role you seem to enjoy as you
>continue to act the clown on here.

I'm sure people like you were saying the same thing about bringing trams
back to various cities around the UK only a few decades ago.

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