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From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.politics
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 by: Petzl - Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:59 UTC

On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:03:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 15:20:23 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:26:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:13:52 +1000, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:44:32?AM UTC+10, Ozix wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>> > According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
>>>>> > sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
>>>>> > Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
>>>>> > patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
>>>>> > number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything
>>>>> down
>>>>> > for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> > anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell documentary,
>>>>> > 'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Mike Lindell, what an impeccable source. Another mini-me grifter, who
>>>>> wishes he were Trump.
>>>>>
>>>> Mike Lindell is not a good speaker.
>>>> But the claim was from
>>>> Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent sources...
>>>
>>> How odd that NOT ONE judge, even one appointed by Trump,
>>> buys those stupid lies.
>
>> And you get that view from American owned and run Australian media!
>
>None of the australian media I use is amercian owned
>and I don't get that view from ANY media, I actually
>worked that out for myself when I noticed that ALL the
>attempts to bullshit EVERY SINGLE JUDGE has failed.
>
Used to love my once a week (mostly) Bacon and two dozen egg and
eglish/curly parsley pie growing up in the 1950's then in 1977 the
government started recommending low-fat, low-cholesterol diets,
because research at the time indicated that dietary cholesterol
elevated bad blood cholesterol (LDL). Eggs were dubbed indulgent and
unhealthy which would kill you.
Then in around 2010 nutrition experts are now correcting the record
for eggs. Eggs are an excellent source of protein, healthy fats, and
several vitamins and minerals. In fact the perfect food! The new world
order don't like this so are now forcing Cage Egg Farmers out(to
convert to so called Free Range) , making them borrow millions to buy
bigger acreage's if they want to stay a egg farmer!

Other New World order thinking has many believing in climate change so
you freeze in winter cook in summer and cars will have to be electric!

Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
Also allowed soviet/Stalin style justice system in USA (if Joe knows
nothing about "Hunter's" business, how does he know Hunter did nothing
wrong?)
--
Petzl
TRUMP ISN'T RUNNING AGAINST BIDEN HE'S RUNNING AGAINST THE CLINTON'S,
BUSH'S, HAMA'S ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, MSN, NPR, MURDOCH'S, SOROS,
ETC

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:33 UTC

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 06:59:44 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:03:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 15:20:23 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:26:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:13:52 +1000, petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:44:32?AM UTC+10, Ozix wrote:
>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> > According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
>>>>>> > sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
>>>>>> > Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
>>>>>> > patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> > for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> > anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell
>>>>>> documentary,
>>>>>> > 'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Mike Lindell, what an impeccable source. Another mini-me grifter,
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> wishes he were Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Lindell is not a good speaker.
>>>>> But the claim was from
>>>>> Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent sources...
>>>>
>>>> How odd that NOT ONE judge, even one appointed by Trump,
>>>> buys those stupid lies.
>>
>>> And you get that view from American owned and run Australian media!
>>
>> None of the australian media I use is amercian owned
>> and I don't get that view from ANY media, I actually
>> worked that out for myself when I noticed that ALL the
>> attempts to bullshit EVERY SINGLE JUDGE has failed.

> Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).

Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Also allowed soviet/Stalin style justice system in USA

Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

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 by: Fran - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:38 UTC

On 10/08/2023 11:44 am, Ozix wrote:
> Petzl wrote:
>> According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
>> sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
>> Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
>> patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
>> number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
>> for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
>> anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell documentary,
>> 'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.
>>
>
> Mike Lindell, what an impeccable source. Another mini-me grifter, who
> wishes he were Trump.

Is Lindell the chap known as "The Pillow Guy"? If he is, then he's
almost as ghastly as The Donald.

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 by: *Ördög* the real n - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 02:29 UTC

Fran

> Mike Lindell, what an impeccable source. Another mini-me grifter, who
> wishes he were Trump

Yes, he is. He is also known as Mike Pillow!
He is in the very same mental deficiency category where Trump and Petz
reside.

Little wonder that Petz is pushing the very same nonsense Mike is known for.
His sensational election fraud allegations proofs are plain
nothing-burgers. Little surprise!

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

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On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:38:04 AM UTC+10, Fran wrote:
snip drivel
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Petzl
We know the inane Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

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On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:29:12 PM UTC+10, *Ördög*
snip drivel
--
Petzl
We know the inane Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:24 UTC

> Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).

Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!

> Also allowed soviet/Stalin style justice system in USA (if Joe knows
> nothing about "Hunter's" business, how does he know Hunter did nothing
> wrong?)
> --
> Petzl
> TRUMP ISN'T RUNNING AGAINST BIDEN HE'S RUNNING AGAINST THE CLINTON'S,
> BUSH'S, HAMA'S ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, MSN, NPR, MURDOCH'S, SOROS,
> ETC

They are very powerful: the physicists, psychiatrists, professors, politicians, pimps, presstitutes and prostitutes making up the global elites!
Excellent at blocking all progress, like the HTN and the IFE, and promoting all that is bad. Marvellous hypocrites. Great geniuses they are who flourish by making the gullible plebs stupid and robotic, mean and violent.
Ah well, que sera sera. The future's not ours to see.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

There is hope with:
Latest experiments (2022) showing my invention of a new kind of rail gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0

Which is improved upon in, and its potential for ejecting matter into near space , and horizontal tunneling shown in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pjy0Wvujs&t=19s

and the following shows how a new class of linear motor violating inertia can be developed by arresting the momentum of the armature and imparting that to the whole system, giving it an increased velocity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc&t=2s

Earlier experiments (2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg
IFE - 1 Ground Experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s
IFE - 2 Experimental setups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY
IFE - 8 New Physics

The way the universe operates:

The cause of gravity
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/mmigkl3yZYc/m/8Rs16NCXAAAJ

Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 1
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/6UIGDNHH7n0/m/U0t-kYqgAAAJ

Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 2
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/CffbGTXV72c/m/5ONP6J6gAAAJ

Introduction to "A New Look Towards the Principles of Motion"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/1wmee5C8mFs/kJMPdnFkAwAJ

Section 1
Linear Motion, Momentum, Force, Energy, Internal Force Engines, and the design of Interstellar Spacecraft
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/GbpQC3a2d1Q/jSXQeb9kAwAJ

Section 1 (contd.)
Linear Motion, Momentum, Force, Energy, Internal Force Engines, and the design of Interstellar Spacecraft
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/P9ZiinIDhHU/ZtMQVyliBQAJ

Section 2
The Creation and Destruction of Energy
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/wY6_9V8ucSY/3nnJQk9iBQAJ

Section 3
The Structure of Heavenly Bodies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/8jH-SQIFFDo/O1jn3HpiBQAJ

Section 4
The Nature of Explosion
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/7TkOVZigFHg/uv43_aZiBQAJ

Section 5
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/jhgcsTq-NrQ/ZBwG8S9jBQAJ

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On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:24:14 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> > using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> > 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
>
> Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
> The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!
>
American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington
>
The yank Government is going ballistic to stop Donald Trump removing the swamp
(corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)
The reason why they want Julian Assange dead!
Julian Assange: "When all is exposed, 98% of Washington will fall."
This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!
>
> > Also allowed soviet/Stalin style justice system in USA (if Joe knows
> > nothing about "Hunter's" business, how does he know Hunter did nothing
> > wrong--
Petzl
According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell documentary,
'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.?)

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On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 18:02:47 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:24:14 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> > > using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> > > 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
> >
> > Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
> > The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!
> >
> American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington

That chap with the axe? Cut down trees? Did not lie about it? Read that story as a child.

> >
> The yank Government is going ballistic to stop Donald Trump removing the swamp
> (corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)
> The reason why they want Julian Assange dead!
> Julian Assange: "When all is exposed, 98% of Washington will fall."
> This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!

Not if 98% of them are corrupt or indifferent and the rest in jail - as Trump may become, a jailbird.
A corrupt population is best served by a corrupt government robbing the honest.

> >
> > > Also allowed soviet/Stalin style justice system in USA (if Joe knows
> > > nothing about "Hunter's" business, how does he know Hunter did nothing
> > > wrong--
> Petzl
> According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
> sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
> Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
> patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
> number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
> for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
> anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell documentary,
> 'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.?)

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 by: petzl - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:15 UTC

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 18:02:47 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:24:14 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> > > > using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> > > > 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
> > >
> > > Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
> > > The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!
> > >
> > American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington
> That chap with the axe? Cut down trees? Did not lie about it? Read that story as a child.
> > >
> > The yank Government is going ballistic to stop Donald Trump removing the swamp
> > (corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)
> > The reason why they want Julian Assange dead!
> > Julian Assange: "When all is exposed, 98% of Washington will fall."
> > This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!
>
> Not if 98% of them are corrupt or indifferent and the rest in jail - as Trump may become, a jailbird.
> A corrupt population is best served by a corrupt government robbing the honest.
>
The Honest they are robbing are the wage and salary earner and major tax payer.
Their IRS are provided guns and tanks to make sure there is no dissention!
<https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/how-many-of-us-will-be-targeted-by-bidens-gun-wielding-irs/>
https://tinyurl.com/2fxowenq
How many of the new agents will be packing heat? Democrats won’t say.
The IRS arsenal of 4,600 guns includes 3,282 pistols, 621 shotguns, 539 rifles,
15 fully automatic weapons and four revolvers. It’s unclear who agents plan to shoot at.
A recent IRS job posting says applicants must “be willing to use deadly force.”
Democrats voted in lockstep to take $80 billion from taxpayers to supersize the IRS.
A possible 87,000 new agents are a force larger than the combined personnel on all 11 US aircraft carriers.
Four times the number of Border Patrol agents. Enough to fill every seat in Madison Square Garden four times.
*******************
Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you
<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-26/cashless-society-economy-australia-covid/100725728>
https://tinyurl.com/2bcmuj84
*************************
Nigel Farage makes some interesting comments (his bank account was abruptly closed)
https://youtu.be/gTlYmgGDvtM?t=113

--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.
The wheels are coming off.
Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.
Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.
"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 19:15:18 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 18:02:47 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:24:14 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> > > > > using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> > > > > 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
> > > >
> > > > Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
> > > > The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!
> > > >
> > > American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington
> > That chap with the axe? Cut down trees? Did not lie about it? Read that story as a child.
> > > >
> > > The yank Government is going ballistic to stop Donald Trump removing the swamp
> > > (corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)
> > > The reason why they want Julian Assange dead!
> > > Julian Assange: "When all is exposed, 98% of Washington will fall."
> > > This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!
> >
> > Not if 98% of them are corrupt or indifferent and the rest in jail - as Trump may become, a jailbird.
> > A corrupt population is best served by a corrupt government robbing the honest.
> >
> The Honest they are robbing are the wage and salary earner and major tax payer.
> Their IRS are provided guns and tanks to make sure there is no dissention!
> <https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/how-many-of-us-will-be-targeted-by-bidens-gun-wielding-irs/>
> https://tinyurl.com/2fxowenq
> How many of the new agents will be packing heat? Democrats won’t say.
> The IRS arsenal of 4,600 guns includes 3,282 pistols, 621 shotguns, 539 rifles,
> 15 fully automatic weapons and four revolvers. It’s unclear who agents plan to shoot at.
> A recent IRS job posting says applicants must “be willing to use deadly force.”
> Democrats voted in lockstep to take $80 billion from taxpayers to supersize the IRS.
> A possible 87,000 new agents are a force larger than the combined personnel on all 11 US aircraft carriers.
> Four times the number of Border Patrol agents. Enough to fill every seat in Madison Square Garden four times.

Bandit raj.

> *******************
> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-26/cashless-society-economy-australia-covid/100725728>
> https://tinyurl.com/2bcmuj84
> *************************
> Nigel Farage makes some interesting comments (his bank account was abruptly closed)
> https://youtu.be/gTlYmgGDvtM?t=113
> --
> Petzl
> 15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
> 25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
> 0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.
> The wheels are coming off.
> Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.
> Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.
> "I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 8:55:40 AM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 19:15:18 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:44:47 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 18:02:47 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:24:14 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > Covid came about because it allowed Joe Biden to take over America
> > > > > > using social distancing and outside drop boxes (Trump:49 States with
> > > > > > 103 million votes Joe: won New York with 37 million votes ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some achievement! But why did they not cheat that much last time?
> > > > > The cheats must work really hard to get Biden re-elected, what!
> > > > >
> > > > American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington
> > > That chap with the axe? Cut down trees? Did not lie about it? Read that story as a child.
> > > > >
> > > > The yank Government is going ballistic to stop Donald Trump removing the swamp
> > > > (corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)
> > > > The reason why they want Julian Assange dead!
> > > > Julian Assange: "When all is exposed, 98% of Washington will fall."
> > > > This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!
> > >
> > > Not if 98% of them are corrupt or indifferent and the rest in jail - as Trump may become, a jailbird.
> > > A corrupt population is best served by a corrupt government robbing the honest.
> > >
> > The Honest they are robbing are the wage and salary earner and major tax payer.
> > Their IRS are provided guns and tanks to make sure there is no dissention!
> > <https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/how-many-of-us-will-be-targeted-by-bidens-gun-wielding-irs/>
> > https://tinyurl.com/2fxowenq
> > How many of the new agents will be packing heat? Democrats won’t say.
> > The IRS arsenal of 4,600 guns includes 3,282 pistols, 621 shotguns, 539 rifles,
> > 15 fully automatic weapons and four revolvers. It’s unclear who agents plan to shoot at.
> > A recent IRS job posting says applicants must “be willing to use deadly force.”
> > Democrats voted in lockstep to take $80 billion from taxpayers to supersize the IRS.
> > A possible 87,000 new agents are a force larger than the combined personnel on all 11 US aircraft carriers.
> > Four times the number of Border Patrol agents. Enough to fill every seat in Madison Square Garden four times.
>
> Bandit raj.
>
The video here if interested
https://frankspeech.com/video/absolute-truth-interview-mike-lindell-13
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Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.
The wheels are coming off.
Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.
Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.
"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

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 by: Ördög - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 00:25 UTC

Petz declares the following on the "Village Idiot Show";

/Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
malicious wankers residing in my killfile/

> Petz
>> American elections I believe have always been corrupt since George Washington

GoonCon3+ phantasms. facts never care about what the likes of you think
or imagine.

>> The yank Government is going ballistic

Nope, it ain't. It tries to govern "business as usual" withing the given
limitations and faults of the existing legal and political climate in
the US.

>> Donald Trump removing the swamp

Your tangerine hero from Mar-a-Lardo has never tried to do anything
about the "swamp"...mainly because he is a greatest swamp creature
within the borders of that country.
Just ask AI Trump! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyffLv-LvzE)

>> (corrupt politicians both Democrat and Republican)

True. US politics and politicians are totally corrupted by corporate
establishment money. Both GOP and a large section of Democrats are
representing only the ruling corporate elite. But of course, the fake
billionaire, a fake human, that fully grifting-cheating wannabe fascist
dictator Trump will never ever intended to change that swampy status
quo. He is only interested in fame, power and your moneys.

/some GoonCon3+ crap removed)

>> This has world wide security implications and destruction of the West alliance!

BS. But I agree. ongoing US neo-liberal, neo-con imperialist ambitions
egged on by the US corporate military establishment is a huge thread to
Word peace.

> ..they are robbing are the wage and salary earner ...

Obviously. But then that is the nature of extreme hard-right/libertarian
capitalism. Fancy how even you must recognise the problem yet you deny
that the problem lies with the prevailing socio- and econopolitical
system which hes led to these excesses. This horribly system thrives on
the surplus wealth generated by working class wage slaves.

> Their IRS are provided guns and tanks to make sure there is no dissention!
More GoonCon 3+ quality Faux News and similar US media trash origin crap.
/snip more MAGA-GQP propaganda nonsense/

> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-26/cashless-society-economy-australia-covid/100725728>
> https://tinyurl.com/2bcmuj84

Cashless society is almost here...but don't even think for a moment that
your LNP/ON all which are exclusively representing the urban and rural
corporate upper class has any intention to stop it. In fact the
generated extra profits will definitely end up in their pockets.
You should not blindly swallow all the crap that comes out of the mouths
of Voldemort and Fish$&Chips Karen Hanson hook, line and sinker.

BTW...why are you stuck in 2021! Please try to catch up, will you?

> Nigel Farage ...

....has fuck all to do with US nor OZ politics.

You, Petz dear, seem to be drowning in World wide alt-right politics.

NOTE:
Your idiotic alt-right/Xtian fundy hate propaganda and high octane
Goon-bag fumes induced fantasy sig was flushed down the gurgler as
always without reading!

Go and chat with AI Trump instead!
:-P :-P :-P

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On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:25:41 AM UTC+10, Ördög wrote:
Snip a load or Ordog commie crap
>
> > ..they are robbing are the wage and salary earner ...
>
> Obviously. But then that is the nature of extreme hard-right/libertarian
> capitalism. Fancy how even you must recognise the problem yet you deny
> that the problem lies with the prevailing socio- and econopolitical
>
Commies are even worse all set themselves up as oligarch's
Stole from the working class and turned them into slaves
>
China's Jiang Zemin much like Russia's Genrikh Yagoda;
>
> > Nigel Farage ...
>
> ...has fuck all to do with US nor OZ politics.
>
The link you snipped was where he specially mentions Australia
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Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers.
He then set the chicken on the floor a short distance away.
The chicken was bloodied and suffering immensely, yet,
when Stalin began to toss some bits of wheat toward the chicken it followed him around.
He said to his followers This is how easy it is to govern stupid people, (like Ordog)
they will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them,
as long as you throw them a little worthless treat once in a while" ,
yet, when Stalin began to toss some bits of wheat toward the chicken it followed him around.
He said to his followers This is how easy it is to govern stupid people,
they will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them,
as long as you throw them a little worthless treat once in a while"

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 05:51 UTC

Ördög wrote on 12/8/23 10:25 am:
> Petz declares the following on the "Village Idiot Show"; /Autosnip
> all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash malicious
> wankers residing in my killfile/
>> Petz
>>> American elections I believe have always been corrupt since
>>> George Washington
>
> GoonCon3+ phantasms. facts never care about what the likes of you
> think or imagine.
>
>>> The yank Government is going ballistic
>
> Nope, it ain't. It tries to govern "business as usual" withing the
> given limitations and faults of the existing legal and political
> climate in the US.
>
>>> Donald Trump removing the swamp
>
> Your tangerine hero from Mar-a-Lardo has never tried to do anything
> about the "swamp"...mainly because he is a greatest swamp creature
> within the borders of that country. Just ask AI Trump!
> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyffLv-LvzE)

Oh!! Come on, Ordog!! We're hard pressed to get Petzl to watch ANY
youtube video ..... but an ELEVEN-plus *HOUR* video?? Nupe!! Never gunna
happen!

<Snip>

>> ..they are robbing are the wage and salary earner ...
>
> Obviously. But then that is the nature of extreme
> hard-right/libertarian capitalism. Fancy how even you must recognise
> the problem yet you deny that the problem lies with the prevailing
> socio- and econopolitical system which hes led to these excesses.
> This horribly system thrives on the surplus wealth generated by
> working class wage slaves.
>
>> Their IRS are provided guns and tanks to make sure there is no
>> dissention!
> More GoonCon 3+ quality Faux News and similar US media trash origin
> crap. /snip more MAGA-GQP propaganda nonsense/
>
>> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you

They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep your
worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??

>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-26/cashless-society-economy-australia-covid/100725728>
>>
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2bcmuj84
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 by: petzl - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 06:38 UTC

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:51:13 PM UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
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> >> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you
>
> They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep your
> worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??
>
In NSW 1986 wages being paid in cash, with a payslip was changed for a pay increase!
On condition They accepted payment to a bank account
The government followed that to keep your bank account
you needed to provide your tax number
Since then Banks have become more and more your overlords.
What would you do if or when a bank without notice cancel your bank account because you like Ordog?
This bias happens now frequently!
You would become a non-person
but you seem to say you wouldn't mind because your world stops at the end of your nose!
you won't mind becoming a penniless "non person"
https://youtu.be/B9IrNcv_OdM
Nigel Farage peaking to Sky News after Dame Alison's resignation, Mr Farage said
10 banks had turned him down after Coutts decided to close his account.
The former Brexit Party leader would not name the banks, but said: "I don't want to take on the whole industry.
"
"You can't exist in the world without a bank account," he said. "You effectively become a non-person."
In Australia Australian rugby union star Israel Folau was sacked for having Christian views as example
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Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church..
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God
whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

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petzl wrote on 12/8/23 4:38 pm:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:51:13 PM UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
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>>>> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of
>>>> you
>>
>> They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep
>> your worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??
>>
> In NSW 1986 wages being paid in cash, with a payslip was changed for
> a pay increase! On condition They accepted payment to a bank
> account The government followed that to keep your bank account you
> needed to provide your tax number Since then Banks have become more
> and more your overlords. What would you do if or when a bank without
> notice cancel your bank account because you like Ordog? This bias
> happens now frequently!

How do you know this is FACT, Petzl?? Has it happened to someone who
admitted they knew you??

> You would become a non-person but you seem to say you wouldn't mind
> because your world stops at the end of your nose!

Oh!! No, it's not that long, Petzl!!

> you won't mind becoming a penniless "non person"
> https://youtu.be/B9IrNcv_OdM Nigel Farage peaking to Sky News after
> Dame Alison's resignation, Mr Farage said 10 banks had turned him
> down after Coutts decided to close his account. The former Brexit
> Party leader would not name the banks, but said: "I don't want to
> take on the whole industry. " "You can't exist in the world without a
> bank account," he said. "You effectively become a non-person."

Well, Farage, apparently, *DID* exist without his Bank Account ... else
how did he 'peak' (as you refer to it) to Sky News??

> In Australia Australian rugby union star Israel Folau was sacked for
> having Christian views as example

..... because his ARU contract expressly forbad him expression opinions
without ARU authority.
--
Daniel

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petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Daniel65 wrote

>>>> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you

>> They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep your
>> worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??

> In NSW 1986 wages being paid in cash,

Bullshit. Mine wasnt even in 63

> with a payslip was changed for a pay increase!

Try that again in english when not blind drunk and drug crazed.
Even google translate doesnt do gobbledegook yet.

> On condition They accepted payment to a bank account

> The government followed that to keep your bankaccount you needed to
> provide your tax number

Never happened and still isnt true.

> Since then Banks have become more and more your overlords.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> What would you do if or when a bank without noticecancel your bank
> account because you like Ordog?

Open another.

> This bias happens now frequently!

BULLSHIT

> You would become a non-person

BULLSHIT

> but you seem to say you wouldn't mind becauseyour world stops at the
> end of your nose!

> you won't mind becoming a penniless "non person"

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> https://youtu.be/B9IrNcv_OdM
> Nigel Farage peaking to Sky News after Dame Alison's resignation, Mr
> Farage said
> 10 banks had turned him down after Coutts decided to close his account.

Just another stupid Farage lie. And Coutts in fact
reinstated his account and the stupid CEO resigned

> The former Brexit Party leader would not name the banks,

Funny that.

> but said: "I don't want to take on the whole industry."

More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.

> "You can't exist in the world without a bank account," he said.

More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.

> "You effectively become a non-person."

More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.

> In Australia Australian rugby union star Israel Folau was sacked for
> having Christian views as example

And nothing happered to his bank accounts and he didnt become a non
person, stupid.

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 by: petzl - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 21:38 UTC

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 8:06:39 PM UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
> petzl wrote on 12/8/23 4:38 pm:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:51:13 PM UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
> > Snip
> >>>> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of
> >>>> you
> >>
> >> They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep
> >> your worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??
> >>
> > In NSW 1986 wages being paid in cash, with a payslip was changed for
> > a pay increase! On condition They accepted payment to a bank
> > account The government followed that to keep your bank account you
> > needed to provide your tax number Since then Banks have become more
> > and more your overlords. What would you do if or when a bank without
> > notice cancel your bank account because you like Ordog? This bias
> > happens now frequently!
>
> How do you know this is FACT, Petzl?? Has it happened to someone who
> admitted they knew you??
>
Worked with the Sydney Water board 1989. Once a week a cash truck delivered wages
The a deal was struck for a wage increase to have money banked
>
> > You would become a non-person but you seem to say you wouldn't mind
> > because your world stops at the end of your nose!
>
> Oh!! No, it's not that long, Petzl!!
>
Your concern about others is that short!
>
> > you won't mind becoming a penniless "non person"
> > https://youtu.be/B9IrNcv_OdM Nigel Farage peaking to Sky News after
> > Dame Alison's resignation, Mr Farage said 10 banks had turned him
> > down after Coutts decided to close his account. The former Brexit
> > Party leader would not name the banks, but said: "I don't want to
> > take on the whole industry. " "You can't exist in the world without a
> > bank account," he said. "You effectively become a non-person."
>
> Well, Farage, apparently, *DID* exist without his Bank Account ... else
> how did he 'peak' (as you refer to it) to Sky News??
>
'peak' - speaking but you knew this!
I believe he went to Spain and opened one there, all part of the EEC
>
> > In Australia Australian rugby union star Israel Folau was sacked for
> > having Christian views as example
>
> .... because his ARU contract expressly forbad him expression opinions
> without ARU authority.
>
Not that he did express opinion, he was talking to his Pacific Island
Christian followers on FB, which was by LBGTQ+ stalkers who stalk and attack
Christians wherever they may be!
The courts did not agree, that Folau expressed opinion
Folua quoted the old testament bible
*************
WARNING
Drunks, Homosexuals, Adulterers, Liars, Fornicators, Thieves, Atheists, Idolaters.
HELL WAITS YOU REPENT!
ONLY JESUS SAVES
************
Folua took a extremely lucrative cash settlement (believed $8 million)
And signed up with France for a few more million.
Wallabies woke head Raelene Castle was sacked!
A large potion of Wallaby fans have left. Not returned
Australian Rugby Union (the greatest team in the world)
has never recovered since!
--
Petzl
We know the inane Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 05:48:20 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Daniel65 wrote
>
>>>>> Albanese is using cashless society to give banks control of you
>
>>> They've had that control for yonks, Petzl ..... or do you keep your
>>> worldly wealth under your park bench, or something??
>
>> In NSW 1986 wages being paid in cash,
>
>Bullshit. Mine wasnt even in 63
>
Your choice then. Wage earners had the choice, many had it banked.
>
>> with a payslip, was changed for a pay increase!
>
>Try that again in english when not blind drunk and drug crazed.
>Even google translate doesnt do gobbledegook yet.
>
"was changed for a pay increase!"
Payment of cash stopped instead went to a bank account.
>
>> On condition They accepted payment to a bank account
>
>> The government followed that to keep your bankaccount you needed to
>> provide your tax number
>
>Never happened and still isnt true.
>
If you don't give your bank your tax file number interest is taxed 50%
by the bank
>
>> Since then Banks have become more and more your overlords.
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.
>
nope
>
>> What would you do if or when a bank without noticecancel your bank
>> account because you like Ordog?
>
>Open another.
>
And in the UK your name is blacklisted.
>
>> This bias happens now frequently!
>
>BULLSHIT
>
Ask Folua Rugby union
>
>> You would become a non-person
>
>BULLSHIT
>
You saying you don't need a bank account?
Where would your CES payment go?
When you get hated robodebt can auto collect from your bank account
>
>> but you seem to say you wouldn't mind becauseyour world stops at the
>> end of your nose!
>
>> you won't mind becoming a penniless "non person"
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.
>
Nope happening in UK often to thousands of people, just going
unnoticed until they pulled this stunt on Nigel Farage who is said to
have 75 million British pounds in cash.
As well as a voice!
>
>> https://youtu.be/B9IrNcv_OdM
>> Nigel Farage peaking to Sky News after Dame Alison's resignation, Mr
>> Farage said
>> 10 banks had turned him down after Coutts decided to close his account.
>
>Just another stupid Farage lie. And Coutts in fact
>reinstated his account and the stupid CEO resigned
>
After Farage had her sacked as well as the lying BBC
>
>> The former Brexit Party leader would not name the banks,
>
>Funny that.
>
Farage and millions of POM's didn't think it funny
>
>> but said: "I don't want to take on the whole industry."
>
>More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.
>
He created a still and Bank CEO's lost their jobs
>
>> "You can't exist in the world without a bank account," he said.
>
>More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.
>
He created a still and Bank CEO's lost their jobs
>
>> "You effectively become a non-person."
>
>More utterly mindless Farage bullshit.
>
Might now change?
He created a still and Bank CEO's lost their jobs
>
>> In Australia Australian rugby union star Israel Folau was sacked for
>> having Christian views as example
>
>And nothing happered to his bank accounts and he didnt become a non
>person, stupid.
>
Not true Australian Rugby Union had to put $8 million dollars into it.
>
--
Petzl
Jesus “taught with authority” (Matthew 7:29), and the risen Lord gave
his Apostles a share in his authority when he commissioned them to
make disciples from all the nations by teaching what he had commanded
them (Matthew 28:18–20).

Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

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 by: Ördög - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 23:33 UTC

Petz continues his "Village Idiot Show - Special Edition"

> Ördög
> Snip a load or Ordog commie crap

You were mighty quick to paddle away for the subject that didn't go well
for you!

Here is a quick reminder of the previous context (LOL)

~~~~
Your tangerine hero from Mar-a-Lardo has never tried to do anything
about the "swamp"...mainly because he is a greatest swamp creature
within the borders of that country.
Just ask AI Trump! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyffLv-LvzE)
~~~~

Did you have a nice chat with the AI version of your pretend
billionaire, pretend human, always lying and always grifting failed
POTUS hero?

>>> ..they are robbing are the wage and salary earner ...
>>
>> Obviously. But then that is the nature of extreme hard-right/libertarian
>> capitalism. Fancy how even you must recognise the problem yet you deny
>> that the problem lies with the prevailing socio- and econopolitical
>>
> Commies are even worse all set themselves up as oligarch's
> Stole from the working class and turned them into slaves

BULLSHIT!
You are also mighty quick to equate any criticism of capitalism, no
matter what it is, and how justified it is with communism.

That fact remains that the political left is very diverse and a
significant portion of it is not even Marxist. And even those who
approach the ever more serious problems plaguing contemporary capitalism
using the Marxian analytical method aren't all communists.
Among them there are mild capitalist social democrats, democratic
socialists, socialists and yes, also communists but even a tiny percent
of far left anarchists.

Furthermore, equating the firsts botched attempts at establishing
socialists states in the 20th Century (and completely misrepresenting
why these attempts failed) with what socialist/communist ideologies
actually are all about at the social and economic level is just an
intentional propaganda technique of the extremist far-right. And that
gives away where your actually political allegiance.

Also, given where European countries stood politically just after the
first World War when those attempts to establish socialist societies
were made, I'd say, they have actually achieved a lot more and a lot
faster for the actual working class in both rural-agricultural and
urban-industrial settings.
Let us not forget where Eastern-Europe was between the World Wars
socially, culturally and economically. Do not pretend that they were
already well established industrial democracies with abundant moderately
wealthy middle class and a well educated population.

Those countries were festering semi feudal illiterate robber baron style
capitalist shitholes (with rampant child labor, total inhumane
exploitation of working people, semi feudal ownership of all the
productive lands, almost no electrification of waste portions of the
countries, pathetic already well outdated industrial and agricultural
production technologies, almost non existent lower middle classes, etc)
lagging far behind in development stage of the USA and Western Europe.
When Lenin took hold of Russia from the hands of the Mensheviks there
weren't any oligarchs around among the ranks of the the communists
leading their revolution. Not even under Stalin (who had at later stage
became a personal cult megalomaniac dictator of a brutal state
capitalist apparatus) were there any real "oligarchs" class in Russia.
Yes, the country was not anywhere near a democracy, most people were not
wealthy in the West European sense, but they have been brought into the
twentieth century, some of them kicking and screaming, with more
advanced idustrialisation, better literacy and general education, at all
stages free education and dirt cheep access to mass transportation,
health care, housing, recreational facilities and cultural institutes.
Of course, the nasty downside to all these advances was a top down
command economy and abuse of some fundamental human and civil rights by
the dictatorial state apparatus. All in all, it was not anywhere near
what socialism (let alone communism) should have become. But it had not
remained the horrible capitalist backwaters it used to be like before
the revolution. It is absolutely necessary to retain painstaking
objectivity about history...politically motivated revisionism will not
serve any coming generations well.

> China's Jiang Zemin much like Russia's Genrikh Yagoda;

Neither of whom were/are communists in any sense of that ideology.
BTW stop kooking up your confused mixture of a doctored version of
history to suit your alt-right propaganda narrative.
>>
>>> Nigel Farage ...
>>
>> ...has fuck all to do with US nor OZ politics.
>>
> The link you snipped was where he specially mentions Australia

This thread you have started with your verbal vomits about your golden
showered failed POTUS from Mar-a-Lardo. Nigel Farrage is just a grifting
alt-right fantasist creep who has helped ruining UK politics with the
his Brexit idiocy. He is a wannabe mini Trump without the tangerine
menace's political traction.

NOTE:
Your idiotic alt-right/Xtian fundy hate propaganda and high octane
Goon-bag fumes induced fantasy sig was flushed down the gurgler as
always without reading!

Go and chat with AI Trump instead!

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.


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