Hope not hope you have more important things to think off than if soup
has posted or not .
Computer went belly up had used a passord manager so ALL (just
imagine EVERYTHING that used a password I had to re-register)that type
of information was lost (there's a message in there somewhere).
Now I am using an old computer of my son's (not as fast as I hoped
but not frustratingly so).After a few false starts ( L O N G story )
had to re-register with ES then had to download and... longer story
short took me ages to get back to day one.

Aside :- I had forgotten just how different Win(later numbers)[1] was to
setup than XP

[1] Flippin' telly tubby UI

Soup wrote:

> Computer went belly up

Rusty's seems to be taking a loooong time to sort-out ...

In article <iOmcnZ--39lAynX4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid.?> on Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at
11:47:40 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Soup wrote:
>
>> Computer went belly up
>
>Rusty's seems to be taking a loooong time to sort-out ...

I must admit I am a bit slow at noticing AWOL. OTOH I am much better at
noticing the return of defaulters!

Welcome back Soup.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 11:36:28 +0000
Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I did miss, but I'm getting the sights re-calibrated.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On 06-Mar-24 11:36, Soup wrote:
> Hope not hope you have more important things to think off than if soup
> has posted or not .
>    Computer went belly up had used a passord manager so ALL (just
> imagine EVERYTHING that used a password I had to re-register)that type
> of information was lost (there's a message in there somewhere).
>  Now I am  using an old computer of my son's (not as fast as I hoped
> but not frustratingly so).After a few false starts ( L O N G  story )
> had to re-register with ES then had to download and... longer story
> short took me ages to get back to day one.
>
> Aside :- I had forgotten just how different Win(later numbers)[1] was to
> setup than XP
>
> [1] Flippin' telly tubby UI

Re Passwords. SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.

I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:39:36 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> Re Passwords. SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>
> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.

It'd be lbooyd hard to hack remotely TAAAW.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:39:36 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 06-Mar-24 11:36, Soup wrote:
>> Hope not hope you have more important things to think off than if soup
>> has posted or not .
>>    Computer went belly up had used a passord manager so ALL (just
>> imagine EVERYTHING that used a password I had to re-register)that type
>> of information was lost (there's a message in there somewhere).
>>  Now I am  using an old computer of my son's (not as fast as I hoped
>> but not frustratingly so).After a few false starts ( L O N G  story )
>> had to re-register with ES then had to download and... longer story
>> short took me ages to get back to day one.
>>
>> Aside :- I had forgotten just how different Win(later numbers)[1] was to
>> setup than XP
>>
>> [1] Flippin' telly tubby UI
>
>Re Passwords. SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
>a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>
>

I use s given set of characters in most of my passwords -
and combine them with unique characters for each password.
When I record my list of logins - I replace the set characters
with " <usual> " .
eg if my common set is z1y2x3 and my ebay password was
z1y2x3_EBAY I would write it as <usual>_EBAY
z1y2x3_Amazon recorded as <usual>_Amazon
Works for me.
John T.

On 06-Mar-24 20:07, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:39:36 +0000
> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Re Passwords. SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
>> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>>
>> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.
>
> It'd be lbooyd hard to hack remotely TAAAW.
>
But she can lose the thing under the pile of %^&* she surrounds herself
with.

P.S. That [1] was supposed to point to a line which said a proper
notebook, & not some e-gadget.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 06/03/2024 23:46, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 06-Mar-24 20:07, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:39:36 +0000
>> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Re Passwords.  SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
>>> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>>>
>>> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.
>>
>>     It'd be lbooyd hard to hack remotely TAAAW.
>>
> But she can lose the thing under the pile of %^&* she surrounds herself
> with.
>
> P.S. That [1] was supposed to point to a line which said a proper
> notebook, & not some e-gadget.
>

I have numerous passwords that I record under a boring title in 'my
docs' as 'hints' that I will understand, but nobody else will, not even
close family.

However after what our Rob's Lesley has had to go through after he
suddenly left us for Ye Great Shedd in ye sky, trying to access his
numerous business accounts and fend off the tax man, and not having a
clue as to what his passwords were, I'm wondering whether it might be
pertinent to send a list of them to messen via recorded delivery and
leave it unopened with a power of attorney?

Tone

On 06/03/2024 19:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 06-Mar-24 11:36, Soup wrote:
>> Hope not hope you have more important things to think off than if soup
>> has posted or not .
>>     Computer went belly up had used a passord manager so ALL (just
>> imagine EVERYTHING that used a password I had to re-register)that type
>> of information was lost (there's a message in there somewhere).
>>   Now I am  using an old computer of my son's (not as fast as I hoped
>> but not frustratingly so).After a few false starts ( L O N G  story )
>> had to re-register with ES then had to download and... longer story
>> short took me ages to get back to day one.
>>
>> Aside :- I had forgotten just how different Win(later numbers)[1] was
>> to setup than XP
>>
>> [1] Flippin' telly tubby UI
>
> Re Passwords.  SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>
> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.
>

Plus when people hack your computer there is no password manager to
harvest. If your house gets broken into you usually have more to worry
about than having all your passwords in plain sight (put notebook in a
drawer perhaps?).

On 2024-03-07, Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/03/2024 19:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 06-Mar-24 11:36, Soup wrote:
>>> Hope not hope you have more important things to think off than if soup
>>> has posted or not .
>>>     Computer went belly up had used a passord manager so ALL (just
>>> imagine EVERYTHING that used a password I had to re-register)that type
>>> of information was lost (there's a message in there somewhere).
>>>   Now I am  using an old computer of my son's (not as fast as I hoped
>>> but not frustratingly so).After a few false starts ( L O N G  story )
>>> had to re-register with ES then had to download and... longer story
>>> short took me ages to get back to day one.
>>>
>>> Aside :- I had forgotten just how different Win(later numbers)[1] was
>>> to setup than XP
>>>
>>> [1] Flippin' telly tubby UI
>>
>> Re Passwords.  SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she keeps
>> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>>
>> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.
>>
>
> Plus when people hack your computer there is no password manager to
> harvest. If your house gets broken into you usually have more to worry
> about than having all your passwords in plain sight (put notebook in a
> drawer perhaps?).

I use my own program to generate complex passwords. They are stored in a
spreadsheet. It was one of my first python programs.

import sys

import pyperclip
import string
import secrets

characters = string.ascii_letters + string.digits + string.punctuation + string.ascii_letters
pw = str(secrets.choice(string.ascii_letters))
#First character always alphabetic

Loops = (secrets.randbelow(3) +2) * 8

#print(Loops)

for x in range(1,Loops):
#Now add another 8
pw = pw + str(secrets.choice(characters))
pyperclip.copy(pw)
#Clipboard now contains a password candidate
print(pw)
exit(0)

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com
Wigan

On 07-Mar-24 1:16, Hymermut wrote:
> On 06/03/2024 23:46, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 06-Mar-24 20:07, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:39:36 +0000
>>> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re Passwords.  SWMBO has a quite smart-looking notebook[1] and she
>>>> keeps
>>>> a (handwritten) list of all her passwords etc. in there.
>>>>
>>>> I was amused, but it doesn't crash or emit magic smoke.
>>>
>>>     It'd be lbooyd hard to hack remotely TAAAW.
>>>
>> But she can lose the thing under the pile of %^&* she surrounds
>> herself with.
>>
>> P.S. That [1] was supposed to point to a line which said a proper
>> notebook, & not some e-gadget.
>>
>
> I have numerous passwords that I record under a boring title in 'my
> docs' as 'hints' that I will understand, but nobody else will, not even
> close family.
>
> However after what our Rob's Lesley has had to go through after he
> suddenly left us for Ye Great Shedd in ye sky, trying to access his
> numerous business accounts and fend off the tax man, and not having a
> clue as to what his passwords were, I'm wondering whether it might be
> pertinent to send a list of them to messen via recorded delivery and
> leave it unopened with a power of attorney?

Good idea, but every time you add some new 'account', or have to change
a password due to yet another data breach...

--
Sam Plusnet

On 07/03/2024 19:17, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 07-Mar-24 1:16, Hymermut wrote:

>>
>> However after what our Rob's Lesley has had to go through after he
>> suddenly left us for Ye Great Shedd in ye sky, trying to access his
>> numerous business accounts and fend off the tax man, and not having a
>> clue as to what his passwords were, I'm wondering whether it might be
>> pertinent to send a list of them to messen via recorded delivery and
>> leave it unopened with a power of attorney?
>
> Good idea, but every time you add some new 'account', or have to change
> a password due to yet another data breach...
>

Yeah. That's a point.

Then I found this:-

https://digilegal.co.uk/logins-passwords-your-will/

So presumably any solicitor could provide this service online?

Tone