I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.

There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
pastes.

Cheers - Jaimie
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- Robert Sheckley, "Hunting Problem"

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>
> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
> pastes.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Not sure if it’s exactly what you want, but I use CloudClip
<https://thinkbitz.com/cloudclip/> You can exclude 1Password (but only that
password manager, I think)

--
Cheers ... Mark

On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:34:31 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com >
wrote:

> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>
>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>> pastes.
>>
>> Cheers - Jaimie
>
> Not sure if it’s exactly what you want, but I use CloudClip
> <https://thinkbitz.com/cloudclip/> You can exclude 1Password (but only that
> password manager, I think)

Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
than a history feature is what I'm looking for.

Tangentially: I wonder how it avoids 1password specifically... perhaps
copied items hold source metadata too. Hmm.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
When one door closes another door opens; but we so often
look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that
we do not see the ones which open for us.
- Alexander Graham Bell

On 30 Apr 2021 at 8:01:55 pm BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:34:31 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>>
>>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>>> pastes.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>> Not sure if it’s exactly what you want, but I use CloudClip
>> <https://thinkbitz.com/cloudclip/> You can exclude 1Password (but only that
>> password manager, I think)
>
> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>
> Tangentially: I wonder how it avoids 1password specifically... perhaps
> copied items hold source metadata too. Hmm.

TypeIt4Me any good? I've been using it (in an extremely basic way) since -
blimey - 2003, it would appear.

https://ettoresoftware.store/mac-apps/typeit4me/features/

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On 30/04/2021 20:49, TimH wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2021 at 8:01:55 pm BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:34:31 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>>>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>>>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>>>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>>>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>>>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>>>> pastes.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>>
>>> Not sure if it’s exactly what you want, but I use CloudClip
>>> <https://thinkbitz.com/cloudclip/> You can exclude 1Password (but only that
>>> password manager, I think)
>>
>> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
>> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
>> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>>
>> Tangentially: I wonder how it avoids 1password specifically... perhaps
>> copied items hold source metadata too. Hmm.
>
> TypeIt4Me any good? I've been using it (in an extremely basic way) since -
> blimey - 2003, it would appear.
>
> https://ettoresoftware.store/mac-apps/typeit4me/features/

It's in the Apple App store for £19.99 and has a (top) rating of 5.0

I wouldn't download it from anywhere else! ;-)

On 30 Apr 2021 at 20:01:55 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.

Are you a techie or not?
What's wrong with an Emacs buffer with each phrase as a paragraph preceded by
a small but memorable string e.g. WTF? Beef it with a named keyboard macro e.g
DS (Discord Snippet) to load the rest of the para into the Mac clipboard.

Type cmd-TAB M-x D S RET WTF RET cmd-TAB cmd-V that's 11 keystrokes to be out
of Discord and back into it with the phrase in place (once you are bouncing
between Discord and Emacs).

You never touch the mouse. The list is a natural to maintain inside Emacs of
course. The macro would take about 10 minutes to write, test and store if you
have ever done one before, otherwise invest another 20 minutes with your head
buried in the Emacs manual. I think I could shorten the typing to 8 keystrokes
with a bit of effort.

Go On! Practice with your sigmonster!

I recommend Aquamacs if you are not already an Emacs user. It is true Emacs
with lots of Mac-like keybindings to make it more useful more quickly.
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On 30 Apr 2021 at 21:54:49 BST, "Elliott Roper" <nospam@yrl.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2021 at 20:01:55 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
>> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
>> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>
> Are you a techie or not?
> What's wrong with an Emacs buffer

Discord, along with 99.999% of programs written since the turn of the
millennium, does not support "edit in external editor".

Also no, I'm not going to reprogram my brain to work with emacs at this
late stage. You have to be modified at University age or before for that
to work.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
I hope I live long enough
to vindicate my pessimism
-- http://www.boasas.com/?c=1108

On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:05:12 IST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
> would like a small palette of phrases to paste.

I use the "Snippets" feature of Launchbar. With a function key assigned, a
single keystroke displays a list of all phrases and a double-click or Enter
pastes it without using Clipboard.
1Password, Keychain and any application you select can be excluded from
Launchbar's clipboard manager.

--
mhphillips at gmail dot com

On 1 May 2021 at 00:15:52 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2021 at 21:54:49 BST, "Elliott Roper" <nospam@yrl.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30 Apr 2021 at 20:01:55 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
>> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
>>> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
>>> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>>
>> Are you a techie or not?
>> What's wrong with an Emacs buffer
>
> Discord, along with 99.999% of programs written since the turn of the
> millennium, does not support "edit in external editor".
>
> Also no, I'm not going to reprogram my brain to work with emacs at this
> late stage. You have to be modified at University age or before for that
> to work.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Two points, neither very serious.
You don't need no steenking external editor support. Standard Mac short cut
cmd-tab bounces between the two most recently used applications. Therefore you
should be able to do something similar with any text editor.

I used teco on every DEC OS there ever was for thirty something years till I
retired and my last Alpha left home for Siding Springs to be cannibalised for
spares. I started on Emacs ten years or so ago after I turned 70 and was a bit
unimpressed with BBEdit and its friends. It beats the livin' B'jasus out of
the horrid horrid IDE's that hitchhike like lice on the back each and every
language/ authoring thing. I'm getting the hang of it by now.

I use Emacs as the basis for nearly everything. Python code, elisp, LaTeX
authoring, web pages, real correspondence, e-mail, fettling my music - is
there any better tool for UTF-8? e.g. how else do you say "Antonín Dvořák
Czech Philharmonic; Jiří Bělohlávek"? and of course, writing sarky replies
for u.c.s.m.

<grin>
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On 1 May 2021 at 08:24:00 BST, "Michael Phillips" <me@odtaa.com.invalid>
wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:05:12 IST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste.
>
> I use the "Snippets" feature of Launchbar. With a function key assigned, a
> single keystroke displays a list of all phrases and a double-click or Enter
> pastes it without using Clipboard.
> 1Password, Keychain and any application you select can be excluded from
> Launchbar's clipboard manager.

Ta! I'll have a look at that too.

I'm honestly surprised that none of my existing tools will do it. I've
used the macOS built in text expander for this sort of thing before, but
bloody Discord of course uses its own text parser.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Sent from my Sinclair ZX-81

In article <if2h4oFosphU1@mid.individual.net>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>
> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
> pastes.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Low-tech solution: use the drag'n'drop clipping technique.[1]

I am currently editing a web-based museum catalogue, and the entries
have a very regular need for (a) two different URLs (b) two different
single sentences (which describe those URLs) and (c) the html codes
&#8220 and &#8221 (open and close double quotes). So I keep the
drag'n'drop 'postits' on the desktop, and drag them into the web page
when I need them.

(Hope that wasn't too garbled!)

John

[1] Select any-size portion of text (or indeed a picture), and drag it
where you want (in my case: the desktop).

On 2021-04-30 19:01:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.

I use Stickies to do this.

Maybe that's too basic but does for me when I want to paste
instructions and other stuff into a forum I'm active in plus keep other
things handy.

You can minimise the window and choose colours.

On 01/05/2021 14:45, Another John wrote:
> In article <if2h4oFosphU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>
>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>> pastes.
>>
>> Cheers - Jaimie
>
> Low-tech solution: use the drag'n'drop clipping technique.[1]
>
> I am currently editing a web-based museum catalogue, and the entries
> have a very regular need for (a) two different URLs (b) two different
> single sentences (which describe those URLs) and (c) the html codes
> &#8220 and &#8221 (open and close double quotes). So I keep the
> drag'n'drop 'postits' on the desktop, and drag them into the web page
> when I need them.
>
> (Hope that wasn't too garbled!)
>
> John
>
> [1] Select any-size portion of text (or indeed a picture), and drag it
> where you want (in my case: the desktop).
>

Handy, hadn't thought of that.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

On 30/04/2021 20:01, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

> Tangentially: I wonder how it avoids 1password specifically... perhaps
> copied items hold source metadata too. Hmm.

The one I use, Pastebot, does this too. The explanation in its blacklist
preferences dialog is that "apps that mark sentient data as transient
are already ignored".

On 1 May 2021 at 15:10:57 BST, "eastender" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 2021-04-30 19:01:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>
>> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
>> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
>> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>
> I use Stickies to do this.

That's so simple it might just work.

I used to use Stickies in Dashboard :( Miss that.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo
- H G Wells

On 1 May 2021 at 14:45:33 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> In article <if2h4oFosphU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>
>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>> pastes.
>>
>> Cheers - Jaimie
>
> Low-tech solution: use the drag'n'drop clipping technique.[1]

That's good too. Hm!

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it
-- Philip K Dick

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 1 May 2021 at 15:10:57 BST, "eastender" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-30 19:01:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>
>>> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
>>> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
>>> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I use Stickies to do this.
>
> That's so simple it might just work.
>
> I used to use Stickies in Dashboard :( Miss that.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

That would work as a select/copy/paste workflow. I just reminded myself of
their existence a couple of days ago after not using them for a few years!
I also use QuickDraft which is a menu bar notepad widget (syncs to all
devices).

--
Cheers ... Mark

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2021 at 15:34:31 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>> I've never felt the need for one before, but some admin tasks I'm doing
>>> would like a small palette of phrases to paste. Unfortunately the app
>>> involved (Discord) doesn't take macOS default text expansion, but
>>> honestly I'd rather pick from a list than use expanders anyway.
>>>
>>> There seem to be loads of clipboard-manager type tools, but I don't
>>> really want multiple copy (not least because my password manager will
>>> use it sometimes and I don't want those appearing in my clipboard), just
>>> pastes.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>> Not sure if it’s exactly what you want, but I use CloudClip
>> <https://thinkbitz.com/cloudclip/> You can exclude 1Password (but only that
>> password manager, I think)
>
> Unfortunately it's not really, what I'm finding myself doing is posting
> a few FAQs into a chat client fairly often so a library feature rather
> than a history feature is what I'm looking for.
>
> Tangentially: I wonder how it avoids 1password specifically... perhaps
> copied items hold source metadata too. Hmm.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

This has both.

https://copyless.net

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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.