I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
to get off.

The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED at
unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the train.
--
Roland Perry

On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
> to get off.
>
> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED at
> unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the train.

Did he tell GTR?

--
Graeme Wall
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In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:

>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>to get off.

>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>train.
>
>Did he tell GTR?

I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
anyone has noticed this.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>> to get off.
>
>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>> train.
>>
>> Did he tell GTR?
>
> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
> anyone has noticed this.

I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.

Sam

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On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
<ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>> to get off.
>>
>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>> train.
>>>
>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>
>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>> anyone has noticed this.
>
>I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.
>
A consequence of variable carriage lengths and door positions such
that a different train could have left you off the platform?

Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
> <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>>> to get off.
>>>
>>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>>> train.
>>>>
>>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>>
>>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>>> anyone has noticed this.
>>
>> I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>> the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>> surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.
>>
> A consequence of variable carriage lengths and door positions such
> that a different train could have left you off the platform?
>

Aren't all GTR carriages 20m, with doors at 1/3 and 2/3?

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
>> <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>>>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>>>> to get off.
>>>>
>>>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>>>> train.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>>>
>>>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>>>> anyone has noticed this.
>>>
>>> I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>>> the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>>> surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.
>>>
>> A consequence of variable carriage lengths and door positions such
>> that a different train could have left you off the platform?
>>
>
> Aren't all GTR carriages 20m, with doors at 1/3 and 2/3?

And I think all 4-car units - very homogenous fleet on that route. The
announcement, as Roland notes, says you have to be in the first 4
carriages.

Sam

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In message <t6tdmj$95a$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:04:51 on Sat, 28 May
2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>> to get off.
>>
>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>> train.
>>>
>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>
>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>> anyone has noticed this.
>
>I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.

What's even more puzzling is that when the Down platform was only 4cars
long, they never attempted to stop 8car trains there. The possibly
one-a-day on the line went through without stopping (much to the dismay
of people who "knew" that north of Ely every service was all-stops).
--
Roland Perry

In message <djh49htjjti38v4bm806vqf7gc4s0m98l0@4ax.com>, at 16:58:41 on
Sat, 28 May 2022, Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com>
remarked:
>On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
><ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>>> to get off.
>>>
>>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>>> train.
>>>>
>>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>>
>>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>>> anyone has noticed this.
>>
>>I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>>the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>>surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.
>>
>A consequence of variable carriage lengths and door positions such
>that a different train could have left you off the platform?

Nope. The trains have been Electrostars for several years now. And the
whole 4cars of anything stopping there (eg previously 365's and a very
few 317's) fitted the platforms.

They couldn't hang off the front because that would obstruct the barrow
crossing, nor to the rear, because of the road level crossing.
--
Roland Perry

In message <t6ti6q$afq$1@dont-email.me>, at 16:21:46 on Sat, 28 May
2022, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
>> <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <t6t82p$vct$3@dont-email.me>, at 14:28:57 on Sat, 28 May
>>>> 2022, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> On 28/05/2022 11:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm reliably informed that now perhaps two years after the longer
>>>>>> platforms were opened at Littleport station, the trains from London
>>>>>> still play the erroneous instruction to move to the front four coaches
>>>>>> to get off.
>>>>
>>>>>> The person who told me this has mobility issues, and was NOT AMUSED
>>>>>> at unnecessarily having to walk through from the rear half of the
>>>>>> train.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did he tell GTR?
>>>>
>>>> I think they were hoping I would, but this can't be the first time
>>>> anyone has noticed this.
>>>
>>> I think I forgot to mention this when we passed last September - we were in
>>> the rear 4 coaches (5th, I think), heard the announcement and were
>>> surprised to see a perfectly serviceable platform outside the window.
>>>
>> A consequence of variable carriage lengths and door positions such
>> that a different train could have left you off the platform?
>
>Aren't all GTR carriages 20m, with doors at 1/3 and 2/3?

Yes, although a handful of GA trains also ply the route.

<https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:LTP/to/gb-
nr:KLN/2022-05-30/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=LE>

I suppose I'll have to go see if they are now 720's (what else could
they be); but that's 5cars on a 8car platform (and the announcement
complained about is on GN Electrostars).
--
Roland Perry