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* missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyHerculePoirot
+* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
|+* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyMax
||`* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
|| `* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPeter Jason
||  `* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
||   +* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPeter Jason
||   |+* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyDechucka
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||   || `* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
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||   ||   `- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
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||    `- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
|`* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyMax
| `- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyRod Speed
+* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyMax
|`* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyMax
| +- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyPhil Allison
| `- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyRod Speed
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|`- Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyRod Speed
`* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyDechucka
 `* Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter ValleyMax
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From: aga...@cristi.org (HerculePoirot)
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Subject: missing autistic boy in Hunter Valley
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 by: HerculePoirot - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 01:06 UTC

Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
and suggests the kid was abducted.

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HerculePoirot wrote:
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> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
> and suggests the kid was abducted.
>

** Foul play is quite likely involved.
I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
( Phone taps etc )
Wait for more info to come out.

...... Phil

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Subject: Re: missing autistic boy in Hunter Valley
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 by: Max - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 01:56 UTC

On 5/09/2021 11:24 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> HerculePoirot wrote:
> ================
>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
>> and suggests the kid was abducted.
>>
>
> ** Foul play is quite likely involved.
> I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
> ( Phone taps etc )
> Wait for more info to come out.
>

Mindless crap. Why would the family be involved? When have you ever
heard of that happening? All of the time it is some other random sicko
who abducts the child.

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 by: Max - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 02:02 UTC

On 5/09/2021 11:06 am, HerculePoirot wrote:
> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
> and suggests the kid was abducted.

Likely the white vehicle was involved. This was posted on Facebook:

"for example my son ran away once and got into someone’s car that was
parked on their property"

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 by: Phil Allison - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 02:16 UTC

Max = human GARBAGE

=====================
> > HerculePoirot wrote:
> > ================
> >> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
> >> and suggests the kid was abducted.
> >>
> >
> > ** Foul play is quite likely involved.
> > I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
> > ( Phone taps etc )
> > Wait for more info to come out.
> >
> Mindless crap. Why would the family be involved?
>

** Child murder by the parents or another child is not uncommon and 10 times more so if the kid is very autistic.
Then of course the family have to cover it up.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 10:14 UTC

HerculePoirot <agatha@cristi.org> wrote

We know you died long ago, frog boy.

> Does something not seem right to you?

Nope.

> Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,

No suddenly about it.

> and suggests the kid was abducted.

Unsurprising given that it hasn’t showed up since Friday.

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 by: Peter Jason - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:26 UTC

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 19:16:06 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

>Max = human GARBAGE
>
>=====================
>> > HerculePoirot wrote:
>> > ================
>> >> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
>> >> and suggests the kid was abducted.
>> >>
>> >
>> > ** Foul play is quite likely involved.
>> > I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
>> > ( Phone taps etc )
>> > Wait for more info to come out.
>> >
>> Mindless crap. Why would the family be involved?
>>
>
>** Child murder by the parents or another child is not uncommon and 10 times more so if the kid is very autistic.
> Then of course the family have to cover it up.
>
>
>
>...... Phil

Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
Compulsory DNA scans before conception?

What are they waiting for?

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Peter Jason Imbecile wrote:
======================

> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
>
> What are they waiting for?

** No such a test exists for ASD.

Be like a test to find dyslexics or homosexuals.

....... Phil

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 by: Peter Jason - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:48 UTC

On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Jason Imbecile wrote:
>======================
>
>> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
>> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
>> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
>>
>> What are they waiting for?
>
>** No such a test exists for ASD.
But it may be a recessive gene involved.
>
> Be like a test to find dyslexics or homosexuals.
>
>
>...... Phil
>

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 by: Dechucka - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 23:13 UTC

On 6/09/2021 8:48 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
> <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Jason Imbecile wrote:
>> ======================
>>
>>> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
>>> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
>>> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
>>>
>>> What are they waiting for?
>>
>> ** No such a test exists for ASD.
> But it may be a recessive gene involved.

So?

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Peter Jason wrote:
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>
> >> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
> >> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
> >> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
> >>
> >> What are they waiting for?
> >
> >** No such a test exists for ASD.
>
> But it may be a recessive gene involved.

** Recent research has identified one example = ACTL6B.

I know couples who have ASD affected children.
Both parents are also affected, in varying degrees.
Should a reliable test emerge, couples could be advised of the likelihood.
But this would be a real can of worms ethically.

And how many parents would be seriously put off by the idea having kids who will grow up to be very much like them ?

One benefit would be fewer adults like Sylvia or Rod.

...... Phil

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 by: Max - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 00:57 UTC

On 5/09/2021 11:24 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> HerculePoirot wrote:
> ================
>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
>> and suggests the kid was abducted.
>>
>
> ** Foul play is quite likely involved.
> I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
> ( Phone taps etc )
> Wait for more info to come out.
>

Turns out the CCTV footage has gone missing at the critical point when
the boy went missing.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/cctv-footage-missing-as-search-for-threeyearold-anthony-aj-elfalak-continues/news-story/ffaa8ac5dd3992c503d776c164e3bbed

Who could have tampered with the CCTV set up?

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On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Jason Imbecile wrote:
>======================
>
>> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
>> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
>> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
>>
>> What are they waiting for?
>
>** No such a test exists for ASD.
>
> Be like a test to find dyslexics or homosexuals.
>
>
>...... Phil
>
https://www.msdmanuals.com/en-au/professional/pediatrics/learning-and-developmental-disorders/autism-spectrum-disorders#v1104796

er...well they suspect some link. Were your parents scanned for
imbecility? The true & cheapest test is measuring the distance of a
standing subject's fingertips to the ground.

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 by: Peter Jason - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 01:11 UTC

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:13:48 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 6/09/2021 8:48 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
>> <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Jason Imbecile wrote:
>>> ======================
>>>
>>>> Compulsory scanning at late-stage pregnancy?
>>>> Compulsory testing of fetal fluids?
>>>> Compulsory DNA scans before conception?
>>>>
>>>> What are they waiting for?
>>>
>>> ** No such a test exists for ASD.
>> But it may be a recessive gene involved.
>
>So?
Obviously, clearly, at the end of the day, the parents could decide to
adopt instead of procreating.

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Peter Jason wrote:
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> >** No such a test exists for ASD.
> >
> > Be like a test to find dyslexics or homosexuals.
> >

https://www.msdmanuals.com/en-au/professional/pediatrics/learning-and-developmental-disorders/autism-spectrum-disorders#v1104796

This is telling:

" One commonly held current theory holds that a fundamental problem in autism spectrum disorders is "mind blindness," the inability to imagine what another person might be thinking. This difficulty is thought to result in interaction abnormalities that, in turn, lead to abnormal language development. One of the earliest and most sensitive markers for autism is a 1-year-old child’s inability to point communicatively at objects at a distance. "

** There are adults who cannot do this either.

Folk who regularly point with their arm and finger at objects or people that are not visible.
Or even worse, when you point out something that is visible - look at your finger.
Which is what cats often do.

Analogous is when folk post links claiming they prove some point - but with no clue as to where or how.
Or cite examples or knowledge known only to them as being proof of something.
Like Rod does.

....... Phil

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Peter Jason = Idiot wrote:
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> >>> ** No such a test exists for ASD.
> >> But it may be a recessive gene involved.
> >
> >So?
>
> Obviously, clearly, at the end of the day, the parents could decide to
> adopt instead of procreating.

** How dumb.

The demand for adoption exceed the actual supply by around100 to 1.
About 100, 000 women have abortions in Australia each year.

....... Phil

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 by: Max - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 01:39 UTC

On 5/09/2021 12:02 pm, Max wrote:
> On 5/09/2021 11:06 am, HerculePoirot wrote:
>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white
>> ute, and suggests the kid was abducted.
>
> Likely the white vehicle was involved. This was posted on Facebook:
>
> "for example my son ran away once and got into someone’s car that was
> parked on their property"

There are reports that the boy has been found. TV reporter at a press
conference said this.

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Max wrote:
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> >
> > Likely the white vehicle was involved. This was posted on Facebook:
> >
> > "for example my son ran away once and got into someone’s car that was
> > parked on their property"
> There are reports that the boy has been found. TV reporter at a press
> conference said this.

** Yep - found alive on the family property.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/family-of-missing-3yearold-aj-elfalak-fears-he-was-abducted/news-story/8eb348d647520664dd86bea7cb11d5c7

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:26 UTC

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> HerculePoirot <agatha@cristi.org> wrote

> We know you died long ago, frog boy.

>> Does something not seem right to you?

> Nope.

>> Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,

> No suddenly about it.

>> and suggests the kid was abducted.

> Unsurprising given that it hasn’t showed up since Friday.

There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/missing-boy-aj-elfalak-found/100436338

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:30 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> HerculePoirot wrote:
>> ================
>>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
>>> and suggests the kid was abducted.

>> Foul play is quite likely involved.

Guess who is face down in the mud, as always ?

>> I expect the police are monitoring the family closely.
>> ( Phone taps etc )
>> Wait for more info to come out.

It has already, the kids is doing fine.

> Turns out the CCTV footage has gone missing at the critical point when the
> boy went missing.

> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/cctv-footage-missing-as-search-for-threeyearold-anthony-aj-elfalak-continues/news-story/ffaa8ac5dd3992c503d776c164e3bbed

> Who could have tampered with the CCTV set up?

More mindless bullshit.

Turns out the kid has been found.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/missing-boy-aj-elfalak-found/100436338

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:37 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Max wrote
>> HerculePoirot wrote:

>>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
>>> and suggests the kid was abducted.

>> Likely the white vehicle was involved. This was posted on Facebook:

>> "for example my son ran away once and got into someone’s car that was
>> parked on their property"

> There are reports that the boy has been found. TV reporter at a press
> conference said this.

And he has
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/missing-boy-aj-elfalak-found/100436338

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 by: Dechucka - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:19 UTC

On 5/09/2021 11:06 am, HerculePoirot wrote:
> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white ute,
> and suggests the kid was abducted.

Great he's been found but something still doesn't feel right. Hope I'm wrong

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 by: Peter Jason - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 02:07 UTC

On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 18:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Jason = Idiot wrote:
>==========================
>> >>>
>> >>> ** No such a test exists for ASD.
>> >> But it may be a recessive gene involved.
>> >
>> >So?
>>
>> Obviously, clearly, at the end of the day, the parents could decide to
>> adopt instead of procreating.
>
>** How dumb.
>
> The demand for adoption exceed the actual supply by around100 to 1.
> About 100, 000 women have abortions in Australia each year.
>
>
>...... Phil

Oh, the irony! A billion ways to commit contraception, yet abortions
are as rampant as ever.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 03:21 UTC

Peter Jason wrote:
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>>
> > The demand for adoption exceed the actual supply by around100 to 1.
> > About 100, 000 women have abortions in Australia each year.
> >
> >
> Oh, the irony! A billion ways to commit contraception, yet abortions
> are as rampant as ever.

** Remember, a big chunk of that number are women who find they are having a multiple birth or an unwanted girl.
Another chunk are babies in some way defective or the result of incest.

The " failed contraception" excuse is always trotted out.

...... Phil

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 by: Max - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 07:28 UTC

On 7/09/2021 7:19 am, Dechucka wrote:
> On 5/09/2021 11:06 am, HerculePoirot wrote:
>> Does something not seem right to you? Suddenly mum invokes a white
>> ute, and suggests the kid was abducted.
>
> Great he's been found but something still doesn't feel right. Hope I'm
> wrong

Yeah, and reportedly the extended family had a big BBQ and bonfire
celebration when the kid was found. Would this have been contrary to
Covid rules and if so did the police do anything?

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/family-celebrates-anthony-aj-elfalaks-release-from-hospital/news-story/fbb11c24bef018a4a6798e12b6f59568

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