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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 13:38 UTC

A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.

A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.

Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.

Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.

Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.

But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.

Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.

Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.

A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.

Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.

Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”

Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.

He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.

“Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.

“He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”

Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.

Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.

“One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.

“A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”

Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.

“When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.

She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.

She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”

She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”

https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/

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On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>
> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
>
> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
>
> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
>
> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
>
> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
>
> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
>
> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
>
> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>
> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
>
> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
>
> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
>
> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
>
> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>
> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
>
> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
>
> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
>
> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>
> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
>
> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
>
> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
>
> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
>
> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
>
> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
>
> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/

2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:30 UTC

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:20:23 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

> > https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.

He might have got longer if he had killed the cyclist victim.

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:09 UTC

Mike Collins wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>>
>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before
>> hiding at his mother's home lacked "the grace and decency" to stop
>> and help the severely injured commuter.
>>
>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working
>> commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray
>> Avenue, Colchester.
>>
>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with
>> an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother's home in Stanway at
>> about 6am on March 3.
>>
>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond
>> merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from
>> behind.
>>
>> But suddenly "and with no apparent explanation at all", he swerved
>> sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air
>> and over the SUV.
>>
>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital
>> treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken
>> teeth.
>>
>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his
>> mother's home in Stanway.
>>
>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of
>> alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>>
>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his
>> three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as
>> he had been unable to work.
>>
>> Ms Nash said: "They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are
>> now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills."
>>
>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but
>> added his client had learned a "salutary lesson from his brush with
>> the criminal justice system".
>>
>> He said: "It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters
>> and drinking.
>>
>> "Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>>
>> "He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such
>> distress for Mr Chandy and his family."
>>
>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by
>> dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene
>> of a collision.
>>
>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: "On that morning
>> at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of
>> Colchester amongst others.
>>
>> "One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his
>> way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>>
>> "A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work,
>> earn his hard day's pay and come home safe to his family again."
>>
>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an
>> ex-partner and had been drinking through "quite a lot of the night
>> and certainly into the morning".
>>
>> "When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that
>> vehicle," she said.
>>
>> She said Bond's act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr
>> Chandy was "the final insult".
>>
>> She said: "The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives
>> with you, yet you didn't even have the grace and decency to stop."
>>
>> She added: "People need to know when they get into a car, onto a
>> bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be
>> taking care - a care they owe to their fellow road users."
>>
>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>
> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.

Prick.

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:12 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:20:23 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins
> wrote:
>
>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
>
> He might have got longer if he had killed the cyclist victim.

You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing that.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:01 UTC

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 7:13:09 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:20:23 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> >> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
> >
> > He might have got longer if he had killed the cyclist victim.
> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing that.

I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:17 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 7:13:09 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder
> Esquire wrote:
>> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:20:23 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be
>>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>> He might have got longer if he had killed the cyclist victim.
>> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing that.
>
> I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!

And you are proud of sponging from your employer/state.
I have never had any paid days sick days of work. But I'm not a wanker like
you. I'm a man, something you have never been and never will be.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:20 UTC

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 8:17:30 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

> >> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing that.
> >
> > I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!
> And you are proud of sponging from your employer/state.
> I have never had any paid days sick days of work. But I'm not a wanker like
> you. I'm a man, something you have never been and never will be.

After 27 years of service to BP, they looked after me when I needed it.
I deserved nothing less.

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:22 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 8:17:30 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder
> Esquire wrote:
>
>>>> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!
>> And you are proud of sponging from your employer/state.
>> I have never had any paid days sick days of work. But I'm not a
>> wanker like you. I'm a man, something you have never been and never
>> will be.
>
> After 27 years of service to BP, they looked after me when I needed
> it.
> I deserved nothing less.

You deserved nothing. You are a sick in the head sad fuck all who could not
even end his own pointless sad life.
As a selfish cyclist you seem to think that you deserved paying for doing
fuck all at work, costing your employer and the NHS thousands.
You are a failure.
You disgust me.

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:27 UTC

On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>>
>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
>>
>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
>>
>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
>>
>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
>>
>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
>>
>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
>>
>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
>>
>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>>
>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
>>
>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
>>
>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
>>
>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
>>
>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>>
>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
>>
>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
>>
>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
>>
>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>>
>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
>>
>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
>>
>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
>>
>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
>>
>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
>>
>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
>>
>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>
> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.

If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
Against the Person Act.

Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
more so than dangerous driving.

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:23 UTC

On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
> >>
> >> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
> >>
> >> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
> >>
> >> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
> >>
> >> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
> >>
> >> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
> >>
> >> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
> >>
> >> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
> >>
> >> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
> >>
> >> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
> >>
> >> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
> >>
> >> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
> >>
> >> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
> >>
> >> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
> >>
> >> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
> >>
> >> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
> >>
> >> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
> >>
> >> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
> >>
> >> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
> >>
> >> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
> >>
> >> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
> >>
> >> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
> >>
> >> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
> >>
> >> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
> >>
> >> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> >
> > 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
> Against the Person Act.
>
> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
> more so than dangerous driving.

You are correct.
This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.

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 by: Peter Keller - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:30 UTC

On 17/09/21 07:17, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 7:13:09 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder
>> Esquire wrote:
>>> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:20:23 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> He might have got longer if he had killed the cyclist victim.
>>> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing that.
>>
>> I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!
>
> And you are proud of sponging from your employer/state.
> I have never had any paid days sick days of work. But I'm not a wanker like
> you. I'm a man, something you have never been and never will be.
>
>
A late night shakes beliefs widely held.

Bearded pirate piper

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 by: Peter Keller - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:31 UTC

On 17/09/21 08:22, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 8:17:30 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder
>> Esquire wrote:
>>
>>>>> You could not even kill yourself. Only a wanker fails at doing
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> I had 400 paid days off sick. Beat that!
>>> And you are proud of sponging from your employer/state.
>>> I have never had any paid days sick days of work. But I'm not a
>>> wanker like you. I'm a man, something you have never been and never
>>> will be.
>>
>> After 27 years of service to BP, they looked after me when I needed
>> it.
>> I deserved nothing less.
>
> You deserved nothing. You are a sick in the head sad fuck all who could not
> even end his own pointless sad life.
> As a selfish cyclist you seem to think that you deserved paying for doing
> fuck all at work, costing your employer and the NHS thousands.
> You are a failure.
> You disgust me.
>
>
Too long a stick tenderly sees to her child.

brain-boiled bum cockroach

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On 17/09/21 06:09, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

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> Prick.
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Tomorrow brings both pleasure and pain.

zombie sniffer

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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 9:23:19 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> .
> You are a failure.

Was Robin Williams a failure?
Was Gary Speed a failure?
Was Keith Emerson a failure?

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:45 UTC

On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>>>>
>>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
>>>>
>>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
>>>>
>>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
>>>>
>>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
>>>>
>>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
>>>>
>>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
>>>>
>>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
>>>>
>>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
>>>>
>>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
>>>>
>>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>>>>
>>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
>>>>
>>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
>>>>
>>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
>>>>
>>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>>>>
>>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
>>>>
>>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
>>>>
>>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
>>>>
>>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
>>>>
>>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
>>>>
>>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
>>>>
>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>>>
>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.

>> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
>> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
>> Against the Person Act.
>>
>> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
>> more so than dangerous driving.
>
> You are correct.
> This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.

No-one involved died.
>

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:04 UTC

On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 10:45:16 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
> >>>>
> >>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
> >>>>
> >>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
> >>>>
> >>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
> >>>>
> >>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
> >>>>
> >>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
> >>>>
> >>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
> >>>>
> >>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
> >>>>
> >>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
> >>>>
> >>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
> >>>>
> >>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
> >>>>
> >>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
> >>>>
> >>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again..”
> >>>>
> >>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
> >>>>
> >>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
> >>>>
> >>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
> >>>>
> >>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
> >>>>
> >>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> >>>
> >>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
>
> >> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
> >> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
> >> Against the Person Act.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
> >> more so than dangerous driving.
> >
> > You are correct.
> > This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.
> No-one involved died.
> >

And?

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:09 UTC

On 17/09/2021 11:04 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 10:45:16 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
>>
>>>> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
>>>> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
>>>> Against the Person Act.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
>>>> more so than dangerous driving.
>>>
>>> You are correct.

>>> This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.

>> No-one involved died.
>
> And?

Manslaughter?

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:26 UTC

On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 11:09:07 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 17/09/2021 11:04 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 10:45:16 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate..
> >>
> >>>> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
> >>>> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
> >>>> Against the Person Act.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
> >>>> more so than dangerous driving.
> >>>
> >>> You are correct.
>
> >>> This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.
>
> >> No-one involved died.
> >
> > And?
> Manslaughter?

I appreciate you are from Liverpool and therefore not overly burdened with intelligence but is there some point you are failing to make?

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:09 UTC

On 17/09/2021 01:26 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 11:09:07 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 17/09/2021 11:04 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 10:45:16 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
>>>>
>>>>>> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
>>>>>> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
>>>>>> Against the Person Act.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
>>>>>> more so than dangerous driving.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct.
>>
>>>>> This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.
>>
>>>> No-one involved died.
>>>
>>> And?

>> Manslaughter?
>
> I appreciate you are from Liverpool and therefore not overly burdened with intelligence but is there some point you are failing to make?
>
You tried to introduce the concept of manslaughter into a discussion of
a case where no-one died. You still haven't explained why.

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 14:27 UTC

On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 14:09:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 17/09/2021 01:26 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 11:09:07 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 17/09/2021 11:04 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 10:45:16 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 17/09/2021 07:23 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 22:27:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 16/09/2021 06:20 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:38:18 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> A decent verdict for a change for the cowardly scum driver.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A DRINK driver who swerved into a cyclist and fled the scene before hiding at his mother’s home lacked “the grace and decency” to stop and help the severely injured commuter.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Benjamin Bond, 29, ploughed his Toyota SUV into hard-working commuter Jayan Chandy in an early morning hit-and-run in Cowdray Avenue, Colchester.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ipswich Crown Court heard he had been drinking following a row with an ex-partner and was on his way to his mother’s home in Stanway at about 6am on March 3.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Emma Nash, prosecuting, said as the road split into two lanes, Bond merged into the right hand lane as he approached Mr Chandy from behind.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But suddenly “and with no apparent explanation at all”, he swerved sharply to the left, striking Mr Chandy, flinging him into the air and over the SUV.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mr Chandy suffered serious injuries requiring extensive hospital treatment, including six broken ribs, a broken collarbone and broken teeth..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bond was located two hours later, hiding in outbuildings at his mother’s home in Stanway.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A breath test was carried out which revealed Bond had 71mcg of alcohol in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mr Chandy said his injuries had left him unable to hug his three-year-old son and his family facing a huge financial crisis as he had been unable to work.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ms Nash said: “They had been saving up money to buy a home, they are now using that money to pay for day-to-day bills.”
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hugh Vass, mitigating, said the victim was completely blameless, but added his client had learned a “salutary lesson from his brush with the criminal justice system”.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He said: “It does appear things got on top of him, domestic matters and drinking.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “Clearly he does feel genuine remorse.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “He is truly ashamed of his behaviour, which resulted in such distress for Mr Chandy and his family.”
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bond, of Winstree Road, Stanway, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, drink driving, and failing to stop at the scene of a collision.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jailing him for two years, Judge Emma Peters said: “On that morning at the start of March this year, two people were on the roads of Colchester amongst others.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “One of them was Mr Chandy, a hard-working man on his bike on his way to the station to go to work to take care of his family.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “A man who got on his bike that morning expecting to go to work, earn his hard day’s pay and come home safe to his family again.”
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Judge Peters said Bond had been involved in an argument with an ex-partner and had been drinking through “quite a lot of the night and certainly into the morning”.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “When you are twice over the limit, you are not in control of that vehicle,” she said.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> She said Bond’s act of driving away from the seriously injured Mr Chandy was “the final insult”.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> She said: “The fact you say the noise of the collision still lives with you, yet you didn’t even have the grace and decency to stop.”
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> She added: “People need to know when they get into a car, onto a bike, or indeed step onto a pavement, that other road users will be taking care – a care they owe to their fellow road users.”
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19582378.colchester-drink-driver-struck-cyclist-fleeing-scene/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2 years is not enough. 10 years and a life ban would be appropriate.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> If the facts were as reported above, it is a surprise that this was
> >>>>>> dealt with under the Road Traffic Acts and not under the Offences
> >>>>>> Against the Person Act.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps the CPS thought that it would be too difficult to prove, even
> >>>>>> more so than dangerous driving.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are correct.
> >>
> >>>>> This is why the offence of causing death by dangerous driving was created, because juries were unwilling to convict of manslaughter for something that was 'only a motoring offence'.
> >>
> >>>> No-one involved died.
> >>>
> >>> And?
>
> >> Manslaughter?
> >
> > I appreciate you are from Liverpool and therefore not overly burdened with intelligence but is there some point you are failing to make?
> >
> You tried to introduce the concept of manslaughter into a discussion of
> a case where no-one died. You still haven't explained why.

Thank you for proving my point.


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