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From: fel...@goaway.com (Yosemite Sam)
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by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 17:09 UTC

I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but the
time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and everything is
unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS battery needs
replacing maybe?

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by: Petzl - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 03:34 UTC

On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 03:09:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com>
wrote:

>
>I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but the
>time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and everything is
>unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS battery needs
>replacing maybe?

In Win10 go to "Time and Language" then select "sync Now" should set
your time correctly.
Then if after shutting down the time fails?
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by: Rod Speed - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:43 UTC

Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com> wrote

> I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but the
> time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and everything is
> unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS battery needs
> replacing maybe?

Yep, that's the usual reason if its an old dinosaur.

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by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 05:36 UTC

On 25/09/2022 1:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 03:09:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but the
>> time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and everything is
>> unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS battery needs
>> replacing maybe?
>
>
>
>
>
> In Win10 go to "Time and Language" then select "sync Now" should set
> your time correctly.

yeah I did that

> Then if after shutting down the time fails?

haven't shut it down yet, so will be interesting to see what happens.
interesting tho that the time difference was exactly 10 hours, which is
the GMT differential for this time zone.

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by: Marco Moock - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 06:19 UTC

Am 25.09.2022 um 03:09:04 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:

> I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but
> the time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and
> everything is unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS
> battery needs replacing maybe?

Linux uses UTC in system and the CMOS clock and just shows the local
time. This is the reason for that.

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by: Marco Moock - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 06:20 UTC

Am 25.09.2022 um 14:43:48 Uhr schrieb Rod Speed:

> Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com> wrote
>
> > I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am,
> > but the time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and
> > everything is unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS
> > battery needs replacing maybe?
>
> Yep, that's the usual reason if its an old dinosaur.

It is the default behaviour of Linux to sue UTC in the CMOS clock, so
check if the clock uses the correct time in UTC.
The OS will then display the time of your local timezone.

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by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 07:32 UTC

On 26/09/2022 4:19 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 25.09.2022 um 03:09:04 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:
>
>> I just noticed my computer clock is showing the time as 3:07 am, but
>> the time here is 1:07 pm. I checked the date/time settings and
>> everything is unchanged. why/how could this have happened? CMOS
>> battery needs replacing maybe?
> Linux uses UTC in system and the CMOS clock and just shows the local
> time. This is the reason for that.
>

it is a Windows PC that had the incorrect time. Linux displays the
correct local time if you set the time zone

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by: Marco Moock - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:33 UTC

Am 26.09.2022 um 17:32:38 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:

> it is a Windows PC that had the incorrect time. Linux displays the
> correct local time if you set the time zone

Then you need to switch Windows to sue UTC, instead after the boot of
the other system the clock is wrong for the currently booting system.

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by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:35 UTC

On 26/09/2022 7:33 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 26.09.2022 um 17:32:38 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:
>
>> it is a Windows PC that had the incorrect time. Linux displays the
>> correct local time if you set the time zone
> Then you need to switch Windows to sue UTC, instead after the boot of
> the other system the clock is wrong for the currently booting system.
>

I'm not following you

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by: Marco Moock - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:59 UTC

Am 26.09.2022 um 19:35:41 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:

> On 26/09/2022 7:33 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 26.09.2022 um 17:32:38 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:
> >
> >> it is a Windows PC that had the incorrect time. Linux displays the
> >> correct local time if you set the time zone
> > Then you need to switch Windows to sue UTC, instead after the boot
> > of the other system the clock is wrong for the currently booting
> > system.
>
> I'm not following you

Windows uses the local time in the RTC. Linux uses UTC in the RTC.
Each system uses NTP to sync the time and will set the RTC according
to that. If you have both installed, this will create a mess. Assume it
is 3:00 UTC and your local time is UTC+1. Windows will set the RTC clock
to 4:00. The you boot Linux. Linux now things this is UTC and displays
the User this time +1, so Linux shows 5:00 to the user. Then it uses
NTP and sets the RTC clock to 3:05 (assume the boot needs some minutes
:-)) and displays 4:05 /the correct local time) to the user.

Next time you boot Windows the time is wring again. Windows now thinks
it is 3:10 local time and the sync will change the RTC again.

To avoid this, you need to change Windows to sue UTC in the RTC instead
of the local time.

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by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:51 UTC

On 26/09/2022 9:59 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 26.09.2022 um 19:35:41 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:
>
>> On 26/09/2022 7:33 pm, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> Am 26.09.2022 um 17:32:38 Uhr schrieb Yosemite Sam:
>>>
>>>> it is a Windows PC that had the incorrect time. Linux displays the
>>>> correct local time if you set the time zone
>>> Then you need to switch Windows to sue UTC, instead after the boot
>>> of the other system the clock is wrong for the currently booting
>>> system.
>> I'm not following you
> Windows uses the local time in the RTC. Linux uses UTC in the RTC.
> Each system uses NTP to sync the time and will set the RTC according
> to that. If you have both installed, this will create a mess. Assume it
> is 3:00 UTC and your local time is UTC+1. Windows will set the RTC clock
> to 4:00. The you boot Linux. Linux now things this is UTC and displays
> the User this time +1, so Linux shows 5:00 to the user. Then it uses
> NTP and sets the RTC clock to 3:05 (assume the boot needs some minutes
> :-)) and displays 4:05 /the correct local time) to the user.
>
> Next time you boot Windows the time is wring again. Windows now thinks
> it is 3:10 local time and the sync will change the RTC again.
>
> To avoid this, you need to change Windows to sue UTC in the RTC instead
> of the local time.
>

Ahh, I see the cause of the confusion. I don't have a dual boot machine.
I have one running win10, one running Linux, and one running win7.

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by: Marco Moock - Tue, 27 Sep 2022 06:35 UTC

Truth is hard to find and harder to obscure.

aus+uk / aus.computers / computer clock

Subject	Author
computer clock	Yosemite Sam
Re: computer clock	Petzl
Re: computer clock	Yosemite Sam
Re: computer clock	Rod Speed
Re: computer clock	Marco Moock
Re: computer clock	Marco Moock
Re: computer clock	Yosemite Sam
Re: computer clock	Marco Moock
Re: computer clock	Yosemite Sam
Re: computer clock	Marco Moock
Re: computer clock	Yosemite Sam
Re: computer clock	Marco Moock