Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.

--
Max Demian

On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:

> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.

BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.

--
Lew

On 27/01/2022 12:17, lew wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>
> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
>

does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the interim
mux, Mu 7?

S.

Max Demian wrote:

> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next Tuesday), it's
> still worth retuning for various LCN changes.

Just remember to add one to all channels above 23 ...

"lew" <lew@none.org> wrote in message news:ssu2gd$ao8$1@dont-email.me...
> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>
> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.

Really? That was kept very quiet. I'll set the BBC local news to record this
evening on HD terrestrial and see if it really is or whether you still get
the supremely unhelpful "Please change to BBC1 SD" caption. Not that I doubt
you, but I'm surprised there was no advance trumpeting of this information.

"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message
news:j5fhbqFdikaU2@mid.individual.net...
> Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>
> Just remember to add one to all channels above 23 ...

And TJC and Ideal World have swapped LCNs.

"NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:ssu3p0$le7$1@dont-email.me...
> "lew" <lew@none.org> wrote in message news:ssu2gd$ao8$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>>
>> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
>
> Really? That was kept very quiet. I'll set the BBC local news to record
> this evening on HD terrestrial and see if it really is or whether you
> still get the supremely unhelpful "Please change to BBC1 SD" caption. Not
> that I doubt you, but I'm surprised there was no advance trumpeting of
> this information.

Hmmm. The over-the-air EPG still has a retune message for the 1830-19:00
slot on Belmont transmitter for all days until the "end of time" on the EPG.
I wonder if it's only HD on satellite at the moment (ie studio upgraded but
terrestrial transmitter signal topology not yet upgraded).

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:14:12 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>

I've got an SD PVR. AFAICS BBC3 is HD in which case I guess I won't
have to retune that?

--
AnthonyL

Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) wrote:

> I've got an SD PVR. AFAICS BBC3 is HD in which case I guess I won't
> have to retune that?

LCN 23 for SD and 109 for HD

On 27/01/2022 12:17, lew wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>
> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
>
Only on Virgin cable. DTT and Sat this autumn

On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
>
> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
> interim mux, Mu 7?
>
All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7  is likely to go
on or before that date.

Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed

On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 12:24:34 UTC, SH wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 12:17, lew wrote:
> > On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
> >
> >> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
> >> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
> >
> > BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
> >
> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the interim
> mux, Mu 7?
>
> S.

Still there with stuff on after retune.

Quite a lot of channels re-appeared and some new ones including one here for Liverpool, although my guess that involved pinching bandwidth off some other channel ;-}

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:j5fl5qFea8dU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 27/01/2022 12:17, lew wrote:
>> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>>
>> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
>>
> Only on Virgin cable. DTT and Sat this autumn

Ah, fine. That agrees with what I'd read previously. I would have been
surprised if DTT and DSat dates had suddenly changed from "this autumn" to
"as of yesterday".

How many spare multiplexes does DSat have so it can accommodate all the
regional variations of BBC 1, in the same way that ITV needs several muxes
for its variations? Is DSat on Astra 28.x in danger of running out of spare
muxes?

On 27/01/2022 13:36, Mark Carver wrote:
> Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed

They would be better closing BBC Three, we keep being told that
youngsters do not watch live TV channels.

On 27/01/2022 15:02, Scott wrote:
> What about BBC News Channel though?

Isn't it the most watched news channel and well ahead of the others?

But it also allows flexibility during major news events.

On 27/01/2022 16:19, Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 13:36:14 +0000, Mark Carver
> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
>>>
>>> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
>>> interim mux, Mu 7?
>>>
>> All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
>> broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7  is likely to go
>> on or before that date.
>>
>> Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed
>
> Also, what about BBC Three, is it broadcast in HD in England? It does
> not appear here, possibly because of the BBC Scotland channel, which
> apparently almost no-one watches.

LCN 109 (on PSB3).

--
Max Demian

On 27/01/2022 16:19, Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 13:36:14 +0000, Mark Carver
> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
>>> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
>>> interim mux, Mu 7?
>>>
>> All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
>> broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7  is likely to go
>> on or before that date.
>>
>> Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed
> Also, what about BBC Three, is it broadcast in HD in England?
Yes, and NI,  but not Scotland because of BBC Scotland HD, and not in
Wales because of S4C HD

On 27/01/2022 15:08, NY wrote:
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:j5fl5qFea8dU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 27/01/2022 12:17, lew wrote:
>>> On 27/01/2022 12:14, Max Demian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even if you aren't interested in BBC3 (restarting programmes next
>>>> Tuesday), it's still worth retuning for various LCN changes.
>>>
>>> BBC1 HD regional, as of yesterday.
>>>
>> Only on Virgin cable. DTT and Sat this autumn
>
> Ah, fine. That agrees with what I'd read previously. I would have been
> surprised if DTT and DSat dates had suddenly changed from "this
> autumn" to "as of yesterday".
>
> How many spare multiplexes does DSat have so it can accommodate all
> the regional variations of BBC 1, in the same way that ITV needs
> several muxes for its variations? Is DSat on Astra 28.x in danger of
> running out of spare muxes?

ITV is sorted for its HD regions, all except Border-Scotland and Channel
are there on satellite. They closed quite a few SD regions to help make
the space.

The Beeb won't do that without several more years of procrastination, so
they are going to have a find quite a bit of extra transponder space

In message <j5flefFec8qU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
>On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
>>
>> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
>>interim mux, Mu 7?
>>
>All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
>broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7  is likely to go
>on or before that date.
>
>Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed

It would be typical if the channel that they close should be the one
with (IMO) the largest amount worthwhile content. No doubt they will
find a way to put a positive spin on it, though. Like Sky did when they
reduced their arts channels from two to one about five years ago, and in
trailers said "now you can find all your favourite arts programmes in
one place".
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

I'm surprised there isn't a BBC Asian Channel on the telly. It sometimes
seems that the BBC has a policy policy of marginalising all us
indigenous people, so such a channel is on the cards I should think.

Bill

John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <j5flefFec8qU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
>> On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
>>>
>>> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
>>> interim mux, Mu 7?
>>>
>> All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
>> broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7  is likely to go
>> on or before that date.
>>
>> Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed
>
> It would be typical if the channel that they close should be the one
> with (IMO) the largest amount worthwhile content. No doubt they will
> find a way to put a positive spin on it, though. Like Sky did when they
> reduced their arts channels from two to one about five years ago, and in
> trailers said "now you can find all your favourite arts programmes in
> one place".

I could accept BBC 4 going if BBC2 went back to how it was in its first
couple of decades. I’m not sure if it’s me getting old or the world is
really going to pot. BBC1 has become BBC drivel, apart from the news I find
almost nothing worth watching. BBC2 is basically BBC1 of old. So I think
I’d support going back to two channels if the dross could be cut.

On 27/01/2022 18:00, Tweed wrote:
> I could accept BBC 4 going if BBC2 went back to how it was in its first
> couple of decades. I’m not sure if it’s me getting old or the world is
> really going to pot. BBC1 has become BBC drivel, apart from the news I find
> almost nothing worth watching. BBC2 is basically BBC1 of old. So I think
> I’d support going back to two channels if the dross could be cut.

I could accept BBC4 going if BBC1 and BBC3 closed as well, leaving us with BBC2 and BBC News, provided BBC2 returned to the remit it had some years back. The other stuff is done at least as well by the commercial stations.

--
Clive Page

In article <tpn5vgd1ktrkq6kdcr8al6ntv7pkdqatci@4ax.com>, Scott
<newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:00:11 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In message <j5flefFec8qU1@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
> >> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
> >>> On 27/01/2022 12:24, SH wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> does anyone have any up to date info on whats happening with the
> >>>> interim mux, Mu 7?
> >>>>
> >>> All we know is currently the licence for using UHF Ch55 (and 56) for
> >>> broadcasting expires on June 30th this year, so COM 7 is likely to
> >>> go on or before that date.
> >>>
> >>> Might fit in rather well with the rumours that BBC 4 is to be closed
> >>
> >> It would be typical if the channel that they close should be the one
> >> with (IMO) the largest amount worthwhile content. No doubt they will
> >> find a way to put a positive spin on it, though. Like Sky did when
> >> they reduced their arts channels from two to one about five years
> >> ago, and in trailers said "now you can find all your favourite arts
> >> programmes in one place".
> >
> >I could accept BBC 4 going if BBC2 went back to how it was in its first
> >couple of decades. I’m not sure if it’s me getting old or the world is
> >really going to pot. BBC1 has become BBC drivel, apart from the news I
> >find almost nothing worth watching. BBC2 is basically BBC1 of old. So I
> >think I’d support going back to two channels if the dross could be cut.

> I think there are far too many channels (television and radio) and the
> BBC should return to its original remit - which is not to replicate what
> can be found on the commercial channels.

That was never in the BBC's remit. ITV's remit, on the other hand, was to
compete with the BBC and also make money for its shareholders. Roy Thompson
called it 'a licence to print money'

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 27/01/2022 17:13, williamwright wrote:
> I'm surprised there isn't a BBC Asian Channel on the telly. It sometimes
> seems that the BBC has a policy policy of marginalising all us
> indigenous people, so such a channel is on the cards I should think.

Like DAB where the Asian channel has full national coverage so probably
listeners that can counted on one hand in many areas.

It always seems discriminatory that only one ethnic group has its own
station. I suppose it compensates for the massive bias towards black
people on TV, it is often mentioned that almost any family in a TV
advert will be black or mixed race yet Asians are very under-represented

On 27/01/2022 18:07, Scott wrote:
> I think there are far too many channels (television and radio) and the
> BBC should return to its original remit - which is not to replicate
> what can be found on the commercial channels.

What does that mean?

Not allowed to have anything similar to something on ITV even when the
BBC do it better?