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Officials in Surrey have vowed to improve safety for cyclists after the county topped a list for fatal or serious injuries.

According to Department for Transport data, 139 cyclists were killed or seriously injured in the county in 2022 - making it the most dangerous local authority for cyclists.

Surrey County Council is now working with Surrey Police, Surrey Fire and Rescue and National Highways on a project named Vision Zero.

It aims to halve all road deaths by 2030 and eliminate them by 2050.

Duncan Knox, a road safety expert for the council, said a number of ideas were being considered.

He said: "Over two thirds of our cycling casualties take place on 30mph speed-limit roads, so we're looking at putting more segregated cycling infrastructure in, either a kerb or a section of wands.

"There's lots of roads that could easily become 20mph, especially where there isn't room for segregated infrastructure."

Plans have been put forward to cut the number of cycling accidents in the county

Keir Gallagher from Cycling UK welcomed the plan.

"We need to stop seeing people dying on our roads as acceptable, it isn't" he said.

"Surrey does have a very high density of motor traffic and a lot of cycling, so I think the important thing is to be looking at how we can get those deaths and serious injuries down while being proactive."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxrvlqg52vko

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Officials in Surrey have vowed to improve safety for cyclists after the
> county topped a list for fatal or serious injuries.

> It aims to halve all road deaths by 2030 and eliminate them by 2050.

An impossible goal, it’s pie in the sky.

Official figures show that over the period 2018 to 2022 some 88 cyclists
were killed in circumstances that involved no other vehicle.

Over the period 2015 to 2020 the figure was 98, and 2016 to 2021 it was
101.

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxrvlqg52vko

The cycling world just doesn’t want to know, because they don’t want to
deal with the issue and have no ideas about how to deal with it. Hence the
poppycock about zero deaths.

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QUOTE: Keir Gallagher from Cycling UK welcomed the plan. "We need to stop seeing people dying on our roads as acceptable, it isn't" he said. ENDS

The dangerous gammons will all be dead by 2050 - pedestrian deaths will be history by then.

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: Keir Gallagher from Cycling UK welcomed the plan. "We need to stop
> seeing people dying on our roads as acceptable, it isn't" he said. ENDS

> The dangerous gammons will all be dead by 2050 - pedestrian deaths will be history by then.

The problem is that 16 cyclists a year kill themselves on the road with no
outside assistance. So what does Keir Gallagher from Cycling UK propose to
do about it?

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QUOTE: He said: "Over two thirds of our cycling casualties take place on 30mph speed-limit roads, so we're looking at putting more segregated cycling infrastructure in, either a kerb or a section of wands. ENDS

The local gammon don't like wands as they trap them in their houses, or something.

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 by: Spike - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 09:13 UTC

Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: He said: "Over two thirds of our cycling casualties take place on
> 30mph speed-limit roads, so we're looking at putting more segregated
> cycling infrastructure in, either a kerb or a section of wands. ENDS
>
> The local gammon don't like wands as they trap them in their houses, or something.

Some 20% of cyclist deaths involve no other vehicle.

How will wands help bring that down?

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QUOTE: There's lots of roads that could easily become 20mph, especially where there isn't room for segregated infrastructure." ENDS

The gammon cannot drive at 20mph without "constantly staring at their speedos" apparently?
Can't they use gears?

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Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> QUOTE: There's lots of roads that could easily become 20mph, especially
> where there isn't room for segregated infrastructure." ENDS

> The gammon cannot drive at 20mph without "constantly staring at their speedos" apparently?
> Can't they use gears?

Perhaps they change their view from speedo to road ahead and back again. As
this means constant eye movements, you could call them gammon swivels!

How about that?

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On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 11:37:43 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
> QUOTE: There's lots of roads that could easily become 20mph, especially where there isn't room for segregated infrastructure." ENDS
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> The gammon cannot drive at 20mph without "constantly staring at their speedos" apparently?
> Can't they use gears?

They seem to shuffle along at walking speed in heavy traffic with no problems -- fancy that!

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