Near to where I live, I have to travel through a roundabout to get
anywhere. Due to ambient light levels at various times, it can be a real
challenge seeing the indicators on some cars which are travelling in the
opposite direction. I had always assumed that there is some kind of ADR
relating to indicators and I'm sure there is, but I suspect the rules
are far too lax.

This hit home to me the other day, when I was behind an Audi SUV. It was
almost impossible to see the rear indicator. Unbelievable.

There is some good news though. The cars with the best, most visible
front indicators are (IMO):

* Late model Minis (They are seriously excellent)
* Recent model Hyundai (I think. Might be a Kia)

These cars have excellent front indicators.

-/RANT

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On 17/12/2023 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> Near to where I live, I have to travel through a roundabout to get
> anywhere. Due to ambient light levels at various times, it can be a real
> challenge seeing the indicators on some cars which are travelling in the
> opposite direction. I had always assumed that there is some kind of ADR
> relating to indicators and I'm sure there is, but I suspect the rules
> are far too lax.
>
> This hit home to me the other day, when I was behind an Audi SUV. It was
> almost impossible to see the rear indicator. Unbelievable.

Hear what you're saying, and totally agree. Some are absolutely appalling.

> There is some good news though. The cars with the best, most visible
> front indicators are (IMO):
>
> * Late model Minis (They are seriously excellent)
> * Recent model Hyundai (I think. Might be a Kia)
>
> These cars have excellent front indicators.

There are some good ones and I agree with your choices.

Those on the Ranger are pretty decent. LED both front and rear and
they're quite bright and easy to see. On the Santa Fe the fronts are
also great, but the rears are so-so. Nothing wrong with the brightness,
but they're in a shit spot. For some reason Hyundai put a great deal of
distance between the brake/tail lights and the indicators on the Santa
Fe with the brake lights up at waist height where most wagons have them,
but the indicators are down low in the bumper:

> https://carsguide-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_large/v1/editorial/2018-Hyundai-Santa-Fe-SUV-blue-press-image-1200x800p-%2820%29.jpg

I don't think anything of it when driving the thing, but I was a couple
of cars behind one a few days ago that stopped to turn right, and where
you can normally see the indicators of the car making the turn through
the windows of a car behind it you couldn't in this case and I thought
the idea was a bit dick.

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On 17/12/2023 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> Near to where I live, I have to travel through a roundabout to get
> anywhere. Due to ambient light levels at various times, it can be a real
> challenge seeing the indicators on some cars which are travelling in the
> opposite direction. I had always assumed that there is some kind of ADR
> relating to indicators and I'm sure there is, but I suspect the rules
> are far too lax.
>
> This hit home to me the other day, when I was behind an Audi SUV. It was
> almost impossible to see the rear indicator. Unbelievable.

Agree, I've had the same issue many times, I find that often its cars
with clear lens that are the most difficult to see but not always.
Its very likely that I've failed to give way to quite a few cars because
I didn't see their indicators and assumed that they were going straight
ahead and not turning.

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On 17/12/2023 7:12 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 17/12/2023 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> Near to where I live, I have to travel through a roundabout to get
>> anywhere. Due to ambient light levels at various times, it can be a
>> real challenge seeing the indicators on some cars which are travelling
>> in the opposite direction. I had always assumed that there is some
>> kind of ADR relating to indicators and I'm sure there is, but I
>> suspect the rules are far too lax.
>>
>> This hit home to me the other day, when I was behind an Audi SUV. It
>> was almost impossible to see the rear indicator. Unbelievable.
>
> Hear what you're saying, and totally agree. Some are absolutely appalling.
>
>> There is some good news though. The cars with the best, most visible
>> front indicators are (IMO):
>>
>> * Late model Minis (They are seriously excellent)
>> * Recent model Hyundai (I think. Might be a Kia)
>>
>> These cars have excellent front indicators.
>
> There are some good ones and I agree with your choices.
>
> Those on the Ranger are pretty decent.

The biggest problem with those are the fuckwits driving not using them.

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