> All the TV's with built in Freesat I have come across (LG, Toshiba, Medion and IIRC Samsung) all have non Freesat channels as well, indeed most of them have DiSEqC ability and can switch between four satellites!
>
> Which reminds me, how much to install a 90cm Wavefrontier toroidal dish, 13x4 or 16x4 multi-switch (walk up access to dish position)?
>

There is a company https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/ where he will
install wavefrontiers.

https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/Toroidal%20Dishes.html

I d-i-y-ed my Wavefrontier T90 with 5 quattro LNBs.

one for Freesat which is combined with Freeview, FM, DAB and CCTV and
fed into 2 off 5x16 multiswitches.

The other 4 LNBs are on Astra 1 @ 19.2E, Hotbord @ 13.0E, Hispasat at
30.0W and Eutelsat 5 at 5.0W and these four feed two off 17x16
multiswitches.

Its an impressive dish, you can put up to 16 LNB's on it and it covers
an arc of somthing like 45 degrees so its possible to cover 12.5W to 28.2E

Heres a calculattor on setting up the dish...

https://satlex.de/en/wavefrontier_calc.html

On 05/12/2021 22:42, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:

>> T
> Thanks, but cinemahd has lots of negative feedback on GooglePlay

Probably because the clone on GooglePlay does not work.

Look at the version number on GooglePlay and the version on the link I
sent you.

The GooglePlay app is not the one I told you about - it is a bad clone.

Trust me.

Tony

On 06/12/2021 09:34, Tony Gamble wrote:

>
> The GooglePlay app is not the one I told you about - it is a bad clone.
>
>

The app I use has v2(2.4.0)

What you are seeing on GooglePlay is a v1 and not the same app at all.

Follow my link with an Android device or put Bluestacks on your Windows PC.

Tony

On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 08:03:28 UTC, SH wrote:
> > All the TV's with built in Freesat I have come across (LG, Toshiba, Medion and IIRC Samsung) all have non Freesat channels as well, indeed most of them have DiSEqC ability and can switch between four satellites!
> >
> > Which reminds me, how much to install a 90cm Wavefrontier toroidal dish, 13x4 or 16x4 multi-switch (walk up access to dish position)?
> >
> There is a company https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/ where he will
> install wavefrontiers.
>
> https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/Toroidal%20Dishes.html
>
> I d-i-y-ed my Wavefrontier T90 with 5 quattro LNBs.
>
> one for Freesat which is combined with Freeview, FM, DAB and CCTV and
> fed into 2 off 5x16 multiswitches.
>
> The other 4 LNBs are on Astra 1 @ 19.2E, Hotbord @ 13.0E, Hispasat at
> 30.0W and Eutelsat 5 at 5.0W and these four feed two off 17x16
> multiswitches.
>
> Its an impressive dish, you can put up to 16 LNB's on it and it covers
> an arc of somthing like 45 degrees so its possible to cover 12.5W to 28.2E
>
> Heres a calculattor on setting up the dish...
>
> https://satlex.de/en/wavefrontier_calc.html

Thanks. I would probably DIY it, as I DIY'ed my Fibo Gregorian dish in ~1997 and it was aligned correctly first time [using an astronomical method].

On 06/12/2021 15:31, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 08:03:28 UTC, SH wrote:
>>> All the TV's with built in Freesat I have come across (LG, Toshiba, Medion and IIRC Samsung) all have non Freesat channels as well, indeed most of them have DiSEqC ability and can switch between four satellites!
>>>
>>> Which reminds me, how much to install a 90cm Wavefrontier toroidal dish, 13x4 or 16x4 multi-switch (walk up access to dish position)?
>>>
>> There is a company https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/ where he will
>> install wavefrontiers.
>>
>> https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/Toroidal%20Dishes.html
>>
>> I d-i-y-ed my Wavefrontier T90 with 5 quattro LNBs.
>>
>> one for Freesat which is combined with Freeview, FM, DAB and CCTV and
>> fed into 2 off 5x16 multiswitches.
>>
>> The other 4 LNBs are on Astra 1 @ 19.2E, Hotbord @ 13.0E, Hispasat at
>> 30.0W and Eutelsat 5 at 5.0W and these four feed two off 17x16
>> multiswitches.
>>
>> Its an impressive dish, you can put up to 16 LNB's on it and it covers
>> an arc of somthing like 45 degrees so its possible to cover 12.5W to 28.2E
>>
>> Heres a calculattor on setting up the dish...
>>
>> https://satlex.de/en/wavefrontier_calc.html
>
> Thanks. I would probably DIY it, as I DIY'ed my Fibo Gregorian dish in ~1997 and it was aligned correctly first time [using an astronomical method].
>

These dishes are heavy and have quite a significant wind capture area.

You do need a substantional K & K bracket, I got mine from Blakes and
had two of these:

https://www.blake-uk.com/brackets-tk/36-k-welded-wall-bracket-galvanized.html

Notice how they are braced left and right as well as at the bottom.

Also you need a pole of a very specific outer diameter, if I recall
correctly its 65 mm and I got it from Metals4u and the wall thickness
was 3 mm and in aluminium. it was a 2 m long pole.

I used penny washers as well to get teh K brackes flat and level on the
wall.

The K & K brackets were set about 1 m apart leaving 1 m of pole
protruding. I cut off about 0.5 m so the dish then sat on top of the pole.

The pole does not go past the dish's back bracket as such.

It is mandatory you get the pole absolutely vertical..... :-)

The first thing you have to set on the back of the dish is the tilt,
which for my location is 14 degrees.

Also, as its a double reflector design, the LNBs are on the other side
of the cental LNB (when compared to any other dish with a multi lnb bracket.

That Satlex calculator will tell you what the reading should be on the
guide rail for the LNB and also what the rotation of the LNB is.

Also you have to install LNB's from the centre and work outwards as the
holders have to slide to the end of the rail so you can't just pop an
LNB in between two already installed ones....

I ran 20 CT100 coax cables from the T90 dish to my loft so its quite a
significant bundle of cables.

Good luck!

:-)

On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 20:00:28 UTC, SH wrote:
> On 06/12/2021 15:31, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> > On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 08:03:28 UTC, SH wrote:
> >>> All the TV's with built in Freesat I have come across (LG, Toshiba, Medion and IIRC Samsung) all have non Freesat channels as well, indeed most of them have DiSEqC ability and can switch between four satellites!
> >>>
> >>> Which reminds me, how much to install a 90cm Wavefrontier toroidal dish, 13x4 or 16x4 multi-switch (walk up access to dish position)?
> >>>
> >> There is a company https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/ where he will
> >> install wavefrontiers.
> >>
> >> https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/Toroidal%20Dishes.html
> >>
> >> I d-i-y-ed my Wavefrontier T90 with 5 quattro LNBs.
> >>
> >> one for Freesat which is combined with Freeview, FM, DAB and CCTV and
> >> fed into 2 off 5x16 multiswitches.
> >>
> >> The other 4 LNBs are on Astra 1 @ 19.2E, Hotbord @ 13.0E, Hispasat at
> >> 30.0W and Eutelsat 5 at 5.0W and these four feed two off 17x16
> >> multiswitches.
> >>
> >> Its an impressive dish, you can put up to 16 LNB's on it and it covers
> >> an arc of somthing like 45 degrees so its possible to cover 12.5W to 28.2E
> >>
> >> Heres a calculattor on setting up the dish...
> >>
> >> https://satlex.de/en/wavefrontier_calc.html
> >
> > Thanks. I would probably DIY it, as I DIY'ed my Fibo Gregorian dish in ~1997 and it was aligned correctly first time [using an astronomical method].
> >
> These dishes are heavy and have quite a significant wind capture area.
>
> You do need a substantional K & K bracket, I got mine from Blakes and
> had two of these:
>
> https://www.blake-uk.com/brackets-tk/36-k-welded-wall-bracket-galvanized.html
>
> Notice how they are braced left and right as well as at the bottom.
>
> Also you need a pole of a very specific outer diameter, if I recall
> correctly its 65 mm and I got it from Metals4u and the wall thickness
> was 3 mm and in aluminium. it was a 2 m long pole.
>
> I used penny washers as well to get teh K brackes flat and level on the
> wall.
>
> The K & K brackets were set about 1 m apart leaving 1 m of pole
> protruding. I cut off about 0.5 m so the dish then sat on top of the pole..
>
> The pole does not go past the dish's back bracket as such.
>
> It is mandatory you get the pole absolutely vertical..... :-)
>
> The first thing you have to set on the back of the dish is the tilt,
> which for my location is 14 degrees.
>
> Also, as its a double reflector design, the LNBs are on the other side
> of the cental LNB (when compared to any other dish with a multi lnb bracket.
>
> That Satlex calculator will tell you what the reading should be on the
> guide rail for the LNB and also what the rotation of the LNB is.
>
>
> Also you have to install LNB's from the centre and work outwards as the
> holders have to slide to the end of the rail so you can't just pop an
> LNB in between two already installed ones....
>
> I ran 20 CT100 coax cables from the T90 dish to my loft so its quite a
> significant bundle of cables.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> :-)

Thanks - the Fibo dish was ~1.2m x 1m and is also Gregorian. The pole had to be robust and vertical (and mounting the [heavy] dish deflected the pole which had to be compensated for).

Fortunately the location is on my patio, so I can just walk up to the dish - no working on ladders.

The Fibo mount was calibrated for latitude and declination, so knowing true south was only alignment issue, which I worked out using Skymap.

The rotation of the Fibo dish compensates for the skew of the satellites, although the original LNB allowed this to be adjusted.

The cables may be a problem, so I am looking at fibre LNB's, but they are £££ each. Also might only fit 3 LNB's.

<smug>
There was an amusing end to installation. Having set the limits and interpolated the position of Astra 19E, I moved the dish to point there and went and switched on my receiver (Strong), TV and tuned $ky News. Blue screen! I was just about to give up for the day when I realised there was sound, but no picture, moreover it sounded like news. A quick delve in the receiver's settings revealed that because it was a $ky channel the video was being sent by default to a decoder I did not have. Switched to direct and hey presto perfect picture. Got stuff from ~42E to ~45W.
<end smug>

On 07/12/2021 11:07, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 20:00:28 UTC, SH wrote:
>> On 06/12/2021 15:31, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>> On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 08:03:28 UTC, SH wrote:
>>>>> All the TV's with built in Freesat I have come across (LG, Toshiba, Medion and IIRC Samsung) all have non Freesat channels as well, indeed most of them have DiSEqC ability and can switch between four satellites!
>>>>>
>>>>> Which reminds me, how much to install a 90cm Wavefrontier toroidal dish, 13x4 or 16x4 multi-switch (walk up access to dish position)?
>>>>>
>>>> There is a company https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/ where he will
>>>> install wavefrontiers.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.satellitetveurope.co.uk/Toroidal%20Dishes.html
>>>>
>>>> I d-i-y-ed my Wavefrontier T90 with 5 quattro LNBs.
>>>>
>>>> one for Freesat which is combined with Freeview, FM, DAB and CCTV and
>>>> fed into 2 off 5x16 multiswitches.
>>>>
>>>> The other 4 LNBs are on Astra 1 @ 19.2E, Hotbord @ 13.0E, Hispasat at
>>>> 30.0W and Eutelsat 5 at 5.0W and these four feed two off 17x16
>>>> multiswitches.
>>>>
>>>> Its an impressive dish, you can put up to 16 LNB's on it and it covers
>>>> an arc of somthing like 45 degrees so its possible to cover 12.5W to 28.2E
>>>>
>>>> Heres a calculattor on setting up the dish...
>>>>
>>>> https://satlex.de/en/wavefrontier_calc.html
>>>
>>> Thanks. I would probably DIY it, as I DIY'ed my Fibo Gregorian dish in ~1997 and it was aligned correctly first time [using an astronomical method].
>>>
>> These dishes are heavy and have quite a significant wind capture area.
>>
>> You do need a substantional K & K bracket, I got mine from Blakes and
>> had two of these:
>>
>> https://www.blake-uk.com/brackets-tk/36-k-welded-wall-bracket-galvanized.html
>>
>> Notice how they are braced left and right as well as at the bottom.
>>
>> Also you need a pole of a very specific outer diameter, if I recall
>> correctly its 65 mm and I got it from Metals4u and the wall thickness
>> was 3 mm and in aluminium. it was a 2 m long pole.
>>
>> I used penny washers as well to get teh K brackes flat and level on the
>> wall.
>>
>> The K & K brackets were set about 1 m apart leaving 1 m of pole
>> protruding. I cut off about 0.5 m so the dish then sat on top of the pole.
>>
>> The pole does not go past the dish's back bracket as such.
>>
>> It is mandatory you get the pole absolutely vertical..... :-)
>>
>> The first thing you have to set on the back of the dish is the tilt,
>> which for my location is 14 degrees.
>>
>> Also, as its a double reflector design, the LNBs are on the other side
>> of the cental LNB (when compared to any other dish with a multi lnb bracket.
>>
>> That Satlex calculator will tell you what the reading should be on the
>> guide rail for the LNB and also what the rotation of the LNB is.
>>
>>
>> Also you have to install LNB's from the centre and work outwards as the
>> holders have to slide to the end of the rail so you can't just pop an
>> LNB in between two already installed ones....
>>
>> I ran 20 CT100 coax cables from the T90 dish to my loft so its quite a
>> significant bundle of cables.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> :-)
>
> Thanks - the Fibo dish was ~1.2m x 1m and is also Gregorian. The pole had to be robust and vertical (and mounting the [heavy] dish deflected the pole which had to be compensated for).
>

When I took a look at the optional wall mount for the Wavefrontier T90,
its essentially a pole bent into a swan neck with two thin metal side
straps and uses just 3 bolts to attach to the wall. I was not impressed
with the design so thats why I went down the double K and ally pole route.
> The cables may be a problem, so I am looking at fibre LNB's, but they
are £££ each. Also might only fit 3 LNB's.
Yes, the main brand of fibre LNBs I see is Global Invacom.

Have you considered IP lnb's? they are not easy to find, Triax, inverto
are the main manufacturers.

They connect via ethernet and can be thought of as 8 "tuners" within the
LNB and you use a Sat>IP compliant set top box or an app such as VLC,
PlexTV, TVheadened etc.

It does away with all co-axial cables and you effectively use ethernet
to connect it all up.

>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> Thanks - the Fibo dish was ~1.2m x 1m and is also Gregorian.  The pole
>> had to be robust and vertical (and mounting the [heavy] dish deflected
>> the pole which had to be compensated for).
>>
>
>
> When I took a look at the optional wall mount for the Wavefrontier T90,
> its essentially a pole bent into a swan neck with two thin metal side
> straps and uses just 3 bolts to attach to the wall.  I was not impressed
> with the design so thats why I went down the double K and ally pole route.
> > The cables may be a problem, so I am looking at fibre LNB's, but they
> are £££ each.  Also might only fit 3 LNB's.
> Yes, the main brand of fibre LNBs I see is Global Invacom.
>
> Have you considered IP lnb's? they are not easy to find, Triax, inverto
> are the main manufacturers.
>
> They connect via ethernet and can be thought of as 8 "tuners" within the
> LNB and you use a Sat>IP compliant set top box or an app such as VLC,
> PlexTV, TVheadened etc.
>
> It does away with all co-axial cables and you effectively use ethernet
> to connect it all up.
>
>

P.S......

If youa re looking to get two adjacent satellite positions 3 degrees
apart, some LNB feedhorns are physically too bulky to get them that
close together.

I use bullet nose LNB's:

see

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-Bullet-Nose-Universal-0-4dB-HD-Ready-DVB-S2-Single-LNB-/254532085851

http://hisat.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=96

They have 40 mm collars.

The Wavefrontier T90 also comes with 40 mm to 23 mm LNB collar adapters
so you could use 23mm inverto LNBs:

https://www.satellitesuperstore.com/quadlnb.htm#invertonarrowquad

Some installs I have seen around the web:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Wavefrontier+t90&atb=v257-1&iax=images&ia=images

On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 08:55:22 UTC, SH wrote:
> >>>
> >>> :-)
> >>
SNIP
> > Yes, the main brand of fibre LNBs I see is Global Invacom.

Ah yes - I can't get am Invacom quad C120 LNB anymore, to replace a failing one.
OTOH it worked fine when frozen, so I suspect I failed to dry it out sufficiently in the summer or it leaks.

> >
> > Have you considered IP lnb's? they are not easy to find, Triax, inverto
> > are the main manufacturers.

Thanks - I will check this out.
https://www.inverto.tv/lnb/140/8-channel-satip-lnb-with-poe-adapter?locale=en
but none available, even on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inverto-IDLI-8CHE20-OOPOE-OSP-iLNB-23mm-Kanal/dp/B00MEOZEMY

> >
> > They connect via ethernet and can be thought of as 8 "tuners" within the
> > LNB and you use a Sat>IP compliant set top box or an app such as VLC,
> > PlexTV, TVheadened etc.
> >
> > It does away with all co-axial cables and you effectively use ethernet
> > to connect it all up.
> >
> >
> P.S......
>
> If youa re looking to get two adjacent satellite positions 3 degrees
> apart, some LNB feedhorns are physically too bulky to get them that
> close together.

Basically 28E, 19E, 13E and ANO - so should be OK.

>
> I use bullet nose LNB's:
>
> see
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-Bullet-Nose-Universal-0-4dB-HD-Ready-DVB-S2-Single-LNB-/254532085851
>
> http://hisat.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=96
>
> They have 40 mm collars.
>
> The Wavefrontier T90 also comes with 40 mm to 23 mm LNB collar adapters
> so you could use 23mm inverto LNBs:
>
> https://www.satellitesuperstore.com/quadlnb.htm#invertonarrowquad
>
> Some installs I have seen around the web:
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Wavefrontier+t90&atb=v257-1&iax=images&ia=images

Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2021 10:41:10 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:

>>
>> Is streaming over the Internet a viable option? When I lived in a smallish
>> village there was no TV reception and the Internet was supplied on a piece
>> of damp string :-(
>

> I have Freeview and internet streaming, but if I had neither and had
> to start again from scratch with only one of them I would choose
> internet. Provided there is an internet service with sufficient speed
> for TV streaming, an Amazon stick or equivalent will provide the most
> services most quickly for the least expense.
>
> Provided... of course. I appreciate this may not apply in a village.
>
> Rod.
>

If its the Village where J Gaines used to be a Parish Councillor the TV
signal is still marginal but the Broadband arrived a few years ago and
fibre to cabinet about 2 years back.
One of the recent storms took down our aerial (lashing snapped ) but it
still worked reasonably well for major channels lying down .That prompted
me on the walk to the Pub to look at others aerials and I was surprised to
see how many do not have one now so must be using a dish or over the
broadband.
Certainly some are just using the broadband as the same storm knocked out
the broadband to half the village for about 3 days which caused anguish to
some.
I would always like to keep some other means of reception possible in
case of line failure wether that is terrestial or satellite.
At least our replacement aerial is now able to take advantage of the
Vertical Polarisation from Rowridge that came after the casualty was
installed and is a lot smaller so less loading on the 10ft pole that most
here need to get terrestrial.

GH

On 09/12/2021 in message <j1er6nFoj5bU1@mid.individual.net> Marland wrote:

>If its the Village where J Gaines used to be a Parish Councillor the TV
>signal is still marginal but the Broadband arrived a few years ago and
>fibre to cabinet about 2 years back.

Goodness me do you live in Damerham?

I am hoping to move back to SP6 over the next few weeks, can't afford
Damerham now though!

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/12/2021 in message <j1er6nFoj5bU1@mid.individual.net> Marland wrote:
>
>> If its the Village where J Gaines used to be a Parish Councillor the TV
>> signal is still marginal but the Broadband arrived a few years ago and
>> fibre to cabinet about 2 years back.
>
> Goodness me do you live in Damerham?
>
> I am hoping to move back to SP6 over the next few weeks, can't afford
> Damerham now though!
>

Yes , I ‘m not sure how long the overlap was before you moved but I did
reply once ( under a different user name )when you used to use the village
name in your sig using something like “from another bit of Damerham” but I
cannot recall what the post subject was. Though I believe another post was
about installing a satellite dish as where you lived is a conservation
area.
Your nearish neighbour at Crossways Farm now has so many Christmas
lights around it that he gives Blackpool a run for its money.

GH

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:22:41 PM UTC+5:30, Marland wrote:
> Jeff Gaines <jgaines...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 09/12/2021 in message <j1er6n...@mid.individual.net> Marland wrote:
> >
> >> If its the Village where J Gaines used to be a Parish Councillor the TV
> >> signal is still marginal but the Broadband arrived a few years ago and
> >> fibre to cabinet about 2 years back.
> >
> > Goodness me do you live in Damerham?
> >
> > I am hoping to move back to SP6 over the next few weeks, can't afford
> > Damerham now though!
> >
> Yes , I ‘m not sure how long the overlap was before you moved but I did
> reply once ( under a different user name )when you used to use the village
> name in your sig using something like “from another bit of Damerham” but I
> cannot recall what the post subject was. Though I believe another post was
> about installing a satellite dish as where you lived is a conservation
> area.
> Your nearish neighbour at Crossways Farm now has so many Christmas
> lights around it that he gives Blackpool a run for its money.
>
> GH
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On 03/12/2021 17:04, Chris Green wrote:
> As a final rider, is she right to want both Freeview and Freesat or
> would Freesat provide everything except a few weird/marginal channels?

Well it's always good to have a backup, but there is very little left
now that is on Freeview but not on Freesat. I /think/ it's just any
Local channel you may have for your area and one radio station for the
blind.

Local TV:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_television_in_the_United_Kingdom#Local_TV_variations_in_2021>

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 8:03:30 PM UTC+5:30, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 03/12/2021 17:04, Chris Green wrote:
> > As a final rider, is she right to want both Freeview and Freesat or
> > would Freesat provide everything except a few weird/marginal channels?
>
> Well it's always good to have a backup, but there is very little left
> now that is on Freeview but not on Freesat. I /think/ it's just any
> Local channel you may have for your area and one radio station for the
> blind.
>
> Local TV:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_television_in_the_United_Kingdom#Local_TV_variations_in_2021>
>
> --
> Brian Gregory (in England).

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> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 8:03:30 PM UTC+5:30, Brian Gregory wrote:
> > On 03/12/2021 17:04, Chris Green wrote:
> > > As a final rider, is she right to want both Freeview and Freesat or
> > > would Freesat provide everything except a few weird/marginal channels?
> >
> > Well it's always good to have a backup, but there is very little left
> > now that is on Freeview but not on Freesat. I /think/ it's just any
> > Local channel you may have for your area and one radio station for the
> > blind.
> >
> > Local TV:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_television_in_the_United_Kingdom#Local_TV_variations_in_2021>
> >
> > --
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On Friday, 3 December 2021 at 22:48:04 UTC+5:30, Chris Green wrote:
> My daughter is in the process of moving into a new (to her) house.
> She wants both Freeview and Freesat in three rooms.
>
> There are currently no (functioning) dishes or aerials. We're in a
> marginal Freeview area for Sudbury. (Her house is close to ours)
>
> So what sort of ballpark costs should she expect, preferably with the
> Freeview and Freesat costs separated (though can they use a common
> 'box'?)
>
> She has 'dumb' TVs to show the pictures (HDMI inputs).
>
>
> As a final rider, is she right to want both Freeview and Freesat or
> would Freesat provide everything except a few weird/marginal channels?
>
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> Chris Green
> ·
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