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* The sound of Faragewilliamwright
+- Re: The sound of FarageJeff Gaines
+* Re: The sound of FarageWoody
|+* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||+- Re: The sound of FarageRichard Tobin
||+* Re: The sound of FarageMB
|||+* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||+- Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||||`* Re: The sound of FarageRobin
|||| `* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||  +* Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||||  |`* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||  | +* Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||||  | |`* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||  | | `* Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||||  | |  `- Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||  | `- Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||||  +* OT: Re: The sound of FarageRobin
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||||  ||| `* Re: OT: Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
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||||  ||     `- Re: OT: Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||  |`* Re: OT: Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
||||  | `* Re: OT: Re: The sound of FarageRobin
||||  |  `- Re: OT: Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
||||  `* Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||||   `* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||    +* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||    |`* Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||||    | `- Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||    +* Re: The sound of FarageAndy Burns
||||    |`* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||    | `- Re: The sound of FarageAndy Burns
||||    `* Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||||     `* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||||      `- Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
|||`* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| +* Re: The sound of FarageAndy Burns
||| |+* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| ||`- Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||| |`* Re: The sound of FarageMark Carver
||| | `* [OT] Re: The sound of FarageSn!pe
||| |  `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |   `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |    `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |     `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |      `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageRobin
||| |       +- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |       `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |        `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |         +- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |         +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |         | +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         | |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |         | | +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWoody
||| |         | | |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         | | | +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |         | | | |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         | | | | `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |         | | | |  `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         | | | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||| |         | | +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageSn!pe
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||| |         | | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
||| |         | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |         `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |          `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |           `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |            `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |             `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |              `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |               `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |                 `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                  `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |                   `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                    `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |                     +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageMB
||| |                     |`- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                     `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                      `* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageIndy Jess John
||| |                       +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJim Lesurf
||| |                       |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageRobin
||| |                       | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJim Lesurf
||| |                       +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
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||| |                       |`* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageRobin
||| |                       | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                       `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
||| `* Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
|||  `* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
|||   +* Re: The sound of Faragewilliamwright
|||   |+* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
|||   |`- Re: The sound of FarageMB
|||   `- Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||`- Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
|`* Re: The sound of Faragewilliamwright
+* Re: The sound of FarageBrian Gregory
`- Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton

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Re: [OT] Re: The sound of Farage

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From: rbw...@outlook.com (Robin)
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Subject: Re: [OT] Re: The sound of Farage
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 by: Robin - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 21:40 UTC

On 12/03/2022 10:21, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> In article <t0ft5i$o0m$1@dont-email.me>, Indy Jess John
> <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2022 12:36, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2022 07:36, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/03/2022 00:46, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MEPs are not lobbyists any more than are our own MPs, that is your
>>>>> fiction/untruth/lie.
>>>>
>>>> Our own MPs vote on proposed legislation and when there is a majority
>>>> in favour the words "The ayes have it", that conclusion becomes law.
>>>
>>> <Sigh!> *Exactly* as happens in the European Parliament!
>
>> Not so. EU legislation becomes law when the Commission issues it, not
>> when the MEPs approve it.
>
> UK legislation can become Law when it gets Royal Assent IIRC. However UK
> Government also has many powers to issue what is de facto 'law' under the
> guise of 'regulations', etc, without having to go via Parliament.

A few points of fact:

a. regulations etc are not "de facto 'law'". They and other forms of
secondary legislation are just that - legislation. That's That's why
you can be taken to court and fined/imprisoned under the provisions of them;

b. regulations don't bypass Parliament. Parliament can vote down
regulations. Most must be considered by Parliament before they become
law. Some come into force first - as with some of the Covid-19
restrictions. It is incredibly rare for them to be voted down but it
happens: see the Universal Credit (Waiting Days) (Amendment) Regulations
2015. And the risk constrains practice (as also does the power of the
courts to strike down regulations which are 'ultra vires');

All of this is set out in legislation and explained on Parliament's website.

> OTOH A lot of the EU policies are in reality decided by the "Council of
> Ministers" (I think that's the term) which means the heads of the National
> Goverments who get together in a room and agree between them. This then
> feeds into EU regulations/Law.
>
> So it isn't a simple matter to decide which - UK or EU - is most/least
> 'democratic'.
>

And the democratic deficits in both are much debated by politicians,
lawyers and academics et al - mostly without recourse to "ad hominem"
insults and "ex cathedra" claims; and often even with factual evidence
(e.g. voting turnouts, propensity of MEPs to vote with their national
party line or their EU Parliament ary group).

--
Robin
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Re: [OT] Re: The sound of Farage

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 by: Robin - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:08 UTC

On 12/03/2022 16:09, Java Jive wrote:
> On 11/03/2022 16:25, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 11/03/2022 12:36, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2022 07:36, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/03/2022 00:46, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MEPs are not lobbyists any more than are our own MPs, that is your
>>>>> fiction/untruth/lie.
>>>>
>>>> Our own MPs vote on proposed legislation and when there is a
>>>> majority in
>>>> favour the words "The ayes have it", that conclusion becomes law.
>>>
>>> <Sigh!>  *Exactly* as happens in the European Parliament!
>>
>> Not so.  EU legislation becomes law when the Commission issues it, not
>> when the MEPs approve it.
>
> Show me the quote verifying that.  As already linked, EU legislation
> cannot become law without being approved by the European Parliament.
As so often, reality is not so simple. The Commission can be - and has
been - given powers similar to the powers to make delegated acts (which
are /not/ the same as regulations under Acts of the Westminster but
/are/ similarly not primary legislation under the Parliament's
"ordinary" procedure). And can come into force without Parliamentary
approval.

Founding provision is now Article 290 TFEU

<https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:12008E290:en:HTML>

in plain words

<https://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/delegated_acts.html>

and recently reviewed by

<https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12027-020-00646-2>

>>>> So it is your words "MEPs are not lobbyists any more than are our own
>>>> MPs" above and not my explanation, which is the lie.
>>>
>>> Although IMO it's not an appropriate word, logically, if MEPs are
>>> lobbyists, so are MPs.
>>
>> Not so. UK MPs are an executive body. MEPs are not.
>
> FALSE!  Neither are an executive body, government is the executive body
> in the UK, the Commission in the EU:
>
> https://www.politicalsciencenotes.com/articles/meaning-types-and-functions-of-the-executive-organ-of-the-government/344
>
>
> "But today the monarchy has been abolished to a great extent and
> democracy has taken its place. Thus the executive has no power to make
> laws, to implement them and to punish those who violate the laws. The
> laws are now made by the legislature; the executive implements them and
> the judiciary awards punishments for the violation of the laws."
>
> And, as explained countless times, this is the same with the EU, there
> is no practical difference that matters between the two.  Neither
> parliament drafts the vast majority of legislation, both can amend
> proposed legislation as drafted by others, both can fail to pass
> legislation, which then fails absolutely, and neither implement the
> legislation, which is done by the respective executive branches of
> government, so I repeat, although IMO it's an inappropriate term, if
> MEPs are to be called 'lobbyists', then logically you must apply the
> same word to MPs.
>
>> You are.  A minority of one from my reading of this thread.
>
> You're the only one still arguing against me  -  that might be because I
> have convinced some of the others of the simple truth, viz: that most of
> the criticisms of the EU are based on Europhobic lies and
> disinformation, or simply that others have lost interest but remain
> unconvinced.  Be that as it may, I can only argue with the man in front
> of me, and that's you, because, despite having plenty of opportunity to
> practice, you're just too damned stubborn accept simple facts that
> demolish your arguments.
>

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 by: Java Jive - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 23:21 UTC

On 12/03/2022 22:08, Robin wrote:
>
> On 12/03/2022 16:09, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 11/03/2022 16:25, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>>
>>> Not so.  EU legislation becomes law when the Commission issues it,
>>> not when the MEPs approve it.
>>
>> Show me the quote verifying that.  As already linked, EU legislation
>> cannot become law without being approved by the European Parliament.
>
> As so often, reality is not so simple. The Commission can be - and has
> been - given powers similar to the powers to make delegated acts (which
> are /not/ the same as regulations under Acts of the Westminster but
> /are/ similarly not primary legislation under the Parliament's
> "ordinary" procedure).  And can come into force without Parliamentary
> approval.

See below ...

> Founding provision is now Article 290 TFEU
>
> <https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:12008E290:en:HTML>
>
> in plain words
>
> <https://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/delegated_acts.html>
>
> and recently reviewed by
>
> <https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12027-020-00646-2>

Interesting, but I don't see the above changes anything fundamental, and
certainly doesn't mean that the EU's system of government is any less
democratic than the UK's. In the EU, the executive branch, the
Commission, is given some leeway in implementing laws, just as happens
within the UK, where the government can decide on actions without
recourse to Parliament, even up to the deployment of the armed forces,
such happened with the bombing of Syrian institutions 'on humanitarian
grounds'.

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 by: R. Mark Clayton - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:37 UTC

On Friday, 11 March 2022 at 16:25:24 UTC, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 11/03/2022 12:36, Java Jive wrote:
> > On 11/03/2022 07:36, Indy Jess John wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/03/2022 00:46, Java Jive wrote:
> >>>
> >>> MEPs are not lobbyists any more than are our own MPs, that is your
> >>> fiction/untruth/lie.
> >>
> >> Our own MPs vote on proposed legislation and when there is a majority in
> >> favour the words "The ayes have it", that conclusion becomes law.
> >
> > <Sigh!> *Exactly* as happens in the European Parliament!
> Not so. EU legislation becomes law when the Commission issues it, not
> when the MEPs approve it.

Yes so, but in a different way - a Statute only becomes law in the UK, when both houses agree and HM assents, and when some official reads out the name of the bill in the House of Lord and says "La Rienne le veut" (The Queen wishes it) only then does it become law.

> >
> >> So it is your words "MEPs are not lobbyists any more than are our own
> >> MPs" above and not my explanation, which is the lie.
> >
> > Although IMO it's not an appropriate word, logically, if MEPs are
> > lobbyists, so are MPs.
> Not so. UK MPs are an executive body. MEPs are not.

The cabinet and government are executive bodies, the House of Commons is a legislature.

> >
> >> As I said (and you trimmed) I do feel so sorry for you, being unable to
> >> understand simple logic. It makes you obsessive.
> >
> > You've been looking in a mirror again, I'm not the one denying simple
> > facts here.
> >
> You are. A minority of one from my reading of this thread.

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 by: R. Mark Clayton - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:38 UTC

On Friday, 11 March 2022 at 16:21:47 UTC, Robin wrote:
> On 11/03/2022 14:17, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 at 20:59:35 UTC, Robin wrote:
> >> On 08/03/2022 17:12, Java Jive wrote:
> <snip>
> >>
> >> But I do hate hypocrisy.
> >
> > So why practise it?
> >
> Where did I do so?
> --
> Robin
> reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

Re-read your postings.

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 by: Jim Lesurf - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 10:25 UTC

In article <389d0f8c-3976-cf11-7e5e-c158df86da29@outlook.com>, Robin
<rbw@outlook.com> wrote:

> And the democratic deficits in both are much debated by politicians,
> lawyers and academics et al - mostly without recourse to "ad hominem"
> insults and "ex cathedra" claims; and often even with factual evidence
> (e.g. voting turnouts, propensity of MEPs to vote with their national
> party line or their EU Parliament ary group).

The complications of having a 'society' which contains millions of people
in various situations, etc, makes it inevitable that any form of
'democracy' will have drawbacks and been seen as 'unfair' by some.

FWIW The best politician I ever knew was an MEP - who strongly disliked the
way the EU was run and wanted it completely changed. But lacking the
arrival of such a 'Golden Age' did his best to get things done and make
improvements.

He was eventually 'de-selected' by Blair for repeatedly failing to toe the
party line.

Jim

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 by: Brian Gregory - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 02:43 UTC

On 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
> Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
> but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
> distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
> At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
> sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
> behind.

I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
humanoid form know as "Farage".

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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 by: Andy Burns - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 06:09 UTC

Brian Gregory wrote:

> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid form
> know as "Farage".

Presumably you obey Stop Funding Hate and refuse to shop at Tesco, Morrisons,
Waitrose, Aldi, Holland&Barret, Lidl, Fortnum&Mason, Sainsburys, Marks&Spencer,
and Coop?

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On 04/06/2022 03:43, Brian Gregory wrote:
> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
> humanoid form know as "Farage".

There cannot be many radio or TV stations that he has not appeared on so
it is going to be quiet time for you.

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 by: Bob Latham - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 08:42 UTC

In article <jfvv73F711eU1@mid.individual.net>,
Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
> humanoid form know as "Farage".

Unhinged hatred.

Bob.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:09 UTC

On 04/06/2022 in message <jfvv73F711eU1@mid.individual.net> Brian Gregory
wrote:

>On 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
>>Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
>>but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
>>distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
>>At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
>>sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
>>behind.
>
>I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid
>form know as "Farage".

We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
still be stuck in the EU.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

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 by: Martin - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:24 UTC

On 4 Jun 2022 09:09:07 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 04/06/2022 in message <jfvv73F711eU1@mid.individual.net> Brian Gregory
>wrote:
>
>>On 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
>>>Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
>>>but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
>>>distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
>>>At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
>>>sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
>>>behind.
>>
>>I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid
>>form know as "Farage".
>
>We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
>still be stuck in the EU.

So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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 by: Wilf - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 10:09 UTC

On 04/06/2022 at 10:24, Martin wrote:
> On 4 Jun 2022 09:09:07 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2022 in message <jfvv73F711eU1@mid.individual.net> Brian Gregory
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
>>>> Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
>>>> but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
>>>> distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
>>>> At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
>>>> sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
>>>> behind.
>>>
>>> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid
>>> form know as "Farage".
>>
>> We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
>> still be stuck in the EU.
>
> So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?

It was a joint effort.

--
Wilf

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 by: Java Jive - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 11:27 UTC

On 04/06/2022 10:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> On 04/06/2022 in message <jfvv73F711eU1@mid.individual.net> Brian
> Gregory wrote:
>>
>> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
>> humanoid form know as "Farage".

Why are you reviving a three-month old OT polical thread that has
already been done to death?

> We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
> still be stuck in the EU.

Bollocks, why should Farage's xenophobic fake news be any more
acceptable than Putin's?

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Bob Latham - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 11:45 UTC

In article <v39m9hldc43du6dckj95r6gn3bg3aepcvs@4ax.com>,
Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

> So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?

The economy was destroyed by:

1. A socialist government calling itself Conservative, that spent
enormous sums of money it didn't have.

2. Shutting down the economy for two years. Predicted as 'inevitable'
at the time.

3. An absurd energy policy.

But by all means ignore reality and blame Brexit.

Bob.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:07 UTC

On 04/06/2022 in message <v39m9hldc43du6dckj95r6gn3bg3aepcvs@4ax.com>
Martin wrote:

>>>I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid
>>>form know as "Farage".
>>
>>We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
>>still be stuck in the EU.
>
>So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?

Garbage. There are many outside factors affecting the economy and we are
now free to take our own action to deal with them.

Did you know that the number of unemployed is now about equal to the
number of job vacancies? Time for the unemployed to get on their bikes.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Have you ever noticed that all the instruments searching for intelligent
life are pointing away from Earth?

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 by: williamwright - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 13:05 UTC

On 04/06/2022 03:43, Brian Gregory wrote:

> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
> humanoid form know as "Farage".
>
You sound a bit bonkers.

Bill

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 by: williamwright - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 13:10 UTC

On 04/06/2022 10:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
>> humanoid form know as "Farage".
>
> We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
> still be stuck in the EU.

I know someone -- a local dignitary -- who has a large picture of the
Queen on on the wall of his larger living room. There is also a frame
that contains a picture of Nigel on one side and one of Winston on the
other. Before any sort of gathering he considers whether to turn the
picture round, or not.

Bill

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 by: Jim Lesurf - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:23 UTC

In article <t7euh4$5lt$1@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 04/06/2022 03:43, Brian Gregory wrote:
> > I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
> > humanoid form know as "Farage".

> There cannot be many radio or TV stations that he has not appeared on so
> it is going to be quiet time for you.

However, "appearing" isn't a synonym for "employs".

Jim

--
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Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
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 by: Brian Gregory - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 14:00 UTC

On 04/06/2022 14:05, williamwright wrote:
> On 04/06/2022 03:43, Brian Gregory wrote:
>
>> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
>> humanoid form know as "Farage".
>>
> You sound a bit bonkers.
>
> Bill

As do you sometimes.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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 by: Java Jive - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 15:32 UTC

On 04/06/2022 13:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> On 04/06/2022 in message <v39m9hldc43du6dckj95r6gn3bg3aepcvs@4ax.com>
> Martin wrote:

[Poor snipping has corrupted the quoting]

>>>> I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in
>>>> humanoid
>>>> form know as "Farage".
>>>
>>> We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would
>>> still be stuck in the EU.
>>
>> So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?
>
> Garbage. There are many outside factors affecting the economy and we are
> now free to take our own action to deal with them.

Name an action that we are taking now that we couldn't have taken before.

> Did you know that the number of unemployed is now about equal to the
> number of job vacancies? Time for the unemployed to get on their bikes.

I don't suppose that many of them can afford one.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Java Jive - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 15:38 UTC

On 04/06/2022 12:45, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <v39m9hldc43du6dckj95r6gn3bg3aepcvs@4ax.com>,
> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?
>
> The economy was destroyed by:
>
> 1. A socialist government calling itself Conservative, that spent
> enormous sums of money it didn't have.

You voted for them.

> 2. Shutting down the economy for two years. Predicted as 'inevitable'
> at the time.

We couldn't've kept our economy going when the rest of the world was
shutting down anyway.

> 3. An absurd energy policy.

It's the prices of fossil fuels that are going up, not renewables.

> But by all means ignore reality and blame Brexit.

By all means continue to ignore reality, why change the habits of a
lifetime?!

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 by: williamwright - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 16:22 UTC

On 04/06/2022 10:23, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> However, "appearing" isn't a synonym for "employs".

In the sense of 'make use of' perhaps?

Bill

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 by: williamwright - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 16:24 UTC

On 04/06/2022 15:00, Brian Gregory wrote:
>> You sound a bit bonkers.
>>
>> Bill
>
> As do you sometimes

Yes but I'm certified so I can.

Bill

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 by: Jim Lesurf - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 14:05 UTC

In article <xn0nips719xaos900h@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?

> Garbage. There are many outside factors affecting the economy and we are
> now free to take our own action to deal with them.

Erm... Well when it comes to factors like trade our 'freedom' has to also
deal with the other countries having their own 'freedom' to require
different conditions of trade to us. e.g. - the USA's wish to extend patent
cash income for drugs sold to the NHS by their big pharma lobby, thus
hiking the costs of care in the UK. You may have noticed that the USA is
bigger than the UK, so it may be a challenge for us to fulfill our
'freedom' to refuse this while getting the level of trade we want.

> Did you know that the number of unemployed is now about equal to the
> number of job vacancies? Time for the unemployed to get on their bikes.

Did you know that sometimes people spout simplistic arguments that omit
relevant details? :-)

For example, how may of your (unstated) number of "unemployed" live so far
from a job that the wage they'd be paid for it would mean they'd be in
poverty because of the travel costs, and they aren't fit enough to go that
far on a bike? (Alas, they have no bus service since the days when the
Tories 'privatised' the regulation of bus provision outwith London. And
they can't afford to live in the bigger towns where they jobs are.)

How many would need some training that the vacancy requires, but which the
employer won't pay anyone to gain?

How many of them are actually 24/7 carers for a close family member in the
same home?

How many of those vacancies pay a decent wage and provide decent
conditions, etc?

etc.

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