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* Charging iPod ClassicScott
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 `* Re: Charging iPod ClassicAndy Burns
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From: newsgro...@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
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Subject: Re: Charging iPod Classic
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 by: Scott - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:08 UTC

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
<david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:

>On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>
>What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.

Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.

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 by: Tweed - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32 UTC

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>
>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>
> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>

Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?

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 by: Woody - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:45 UTC

On Sun 27/03/2022 20:08, Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>
>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>
> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.

Its called built-in obsolescence. I have an iPhone5 here at the side of
me that works perfectly well and both charges and holds charge, but
Apple decided to stop providing iOS updates for it some time back which
means it is now incompatible with their existing output.

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 by: Scott - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:52 UTC

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>
>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>
>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>
>Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?

I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
at WH Smith so I can take a look.

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Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>
>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>
>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>
>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>
> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>

If it is one of these

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter

Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it’s in
the small print, and in the headline info
“Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
whenever it’s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
directly to your device via the Lightning connector.”

it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.

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 by: Scott - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:16 UTC

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>
>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>
>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>
>
>If it is one of these
>
>https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>
>Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it’s in
>the small print, and in the headline info
>“Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>whenever it’s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>directly to your device via the Lightning connector.”
>
>it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.

No - this one:
https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
which is the EU version of this:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
I cannot see any exclusion in either.

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 by: Tweed - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30 UTC

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>>
>>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>>
>>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>>
>>
>> If it is one of these
>>
>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>>
>> Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it’s in
>> the small print, and in the headline info
>> “Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>> iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>> whenever it’s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>> directly to your device via the Lightning connector.”
>>
>> it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.
>
> No - this one:
> https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
> which is the EU version of this:
> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
> I cannot see any exclusion in either.
>

Is your iPod one of these, as they are the only ones listed as compatible

iPod Models
iPod touch (7th generation)
iPod touch (6th generation)
iPod touch (5th generation)
iPod nano (7th generation)
iPod shuffle (4th generation)

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 by: Scott - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:38 UTC

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>>>
>>>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>>>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it is one of these
>>>
>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>>>
>>> Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it?s in
>>> the small print, and in the headline info
>>> ?Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>>> iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>>> whenever it?s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>>> directly to your device via the Lightning connector.?
>>>
>>> it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.
>>
>> No - this one:
>> https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
>> which is the EU version of this:
>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
>> I cannot see any exclusion in either.
>>
>
>Is your iPod one of these, as they are the only ones listed as compatible
>
>iPod Models
>iPod touch (7th generation)
>iPod touch (6th generation)
>iPod touch (5th generation)
>iPod nano (7th generation)
>iPod shuffle (4th generation)

No it's not. It's an iPod Classic but the overview says this:

"Featuring an ultra-compact design, this power adapter offers fast,
efficient charging at home, in the office or on the go. It works with
any Apple Watch, iPhone or iPod model."

This is more likely to be the wording on the box, but I can look in WH
Smith.

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 by: Tweed - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 05:48 UTC

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>>>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>>>>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it is one of these
>>>>
>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>>>>
>>>> Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it?s in
>>>> the small print, and in the headline info
>>>> ?Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>>>> iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>>>> whenever it?s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>>>> directly to your device via the Lightning connector.?
>>>>
>>>> it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.
>>>
>>> No - this one:
>>> https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
>>> which is the EU version of this:
>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
>>> I cannot see any exclusion in either.
>>>
>>
>> Is your iPod one of these, as they are the only ones listed as compatible
>>
>> iPod Models
>> iPod touch (7th generation)
>> iPod touch (6th generation)
>> iPod touch (5th generation)
>> iPod nano (7th generation)
>> iPod shuffle (4th generation)
>
> No it's not. It's an iPod Classic but the overview says this:
>
> "Featuring an ultra-compact design, this power adapter offers fast,
> efficient charging at home, in the office or on the go. It works with
> any Apple Watch, iPhone or iPod model."
>
> This is more likely to be the wording on the box, but I can look in WH
> Smith.
>

I suspect the best you can do is to get your money back. I’m a
little,confused, as at the start of the thread you said it was the 2A
charger that didn’t work. This is a 5W charger, ie 1A.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 06:44 UTC

Tweed wrote:

> I suspect the best you can do is to get your money back. I’m a
> little,confused, as at the start of the thread you said it was the 2A
> charger that didn’t work. This is a 5W charger, ie 1A.

I'd agree that if the charger you bought says it "charges any ipod" you should
take it back to Smiths.

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 by: Scott - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 07:53 UTC

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 05:48:45 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>>>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>>>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>>>>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>>>>>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is one of these
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>>>>>
>>>>> Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it?s in
>>>>> the small print, and in the headline info
>>>>> ?Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>>>>> iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>>>>> whenever it?s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>>>>> directly to your device via the Lightning connector.?
>>>>>
>>>>> it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.
>>>>
>>>> No - this one:
>>>> https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
>>>> which is the EU version of this:
>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
>>>> I cannot see any exclusion in either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is your iPod one of these, as they are the only ones listed as compatible
>>>
>>> iPod Models
>>> iPod touch (7th generation)
>>> iPod touch (6th generation)
>>> iPod touch (5th generation)
>>> iPod nano (7th generation)
>>> iPod shuffle (4th generation)
>>
>> No it's not. It's an iPod Classic but the overview says this:
>>
>> "Featuring an ultra-compact design, this power adapter offers fast,
>> efficient charging at home, in the office or on the go. It works with
>> any Apple Watch, iPhone or iPod model."
>>
>> This is more likely to be the wording on the box, but I can look in WH
>> Smith.
>>
>I suspect the best you can do is to get your money back. I’m a
>little,confused, as at the start of the thread you said it was the 2A
>charger that didn’t work. This is a 5W charger, ie 1A.

Apologies - my mistake. I *thought* it was 2.1A and the battery man
said the problem was excessive amperage. The writing is tiny but I
have now checked and it is indeed rated at 1A.

As everyone has been telling me, it must be the control gear and
nothing to do with the amperage.

On a happier note, it charges my iPad Mini so no need to take it back.

My concern really is that I nearly threw away a working iPod in the
belief it was faulty when it would not charge with what I believed to
be a compatible charger. As my father used to say, you learn
something every day.

Thanks to everyone for solving the mystery.

Re: Charging iPod Classic

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Subject: Re: Charging iPod Classic
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Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 05:48:45 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:08:01 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:32:34 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:49:46 +0100, David Woolley
>>>>>>>>> <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 27/03/2022 18:00, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Why does an iPod need more than 100mA? Surely
>>>>>>>>>>> it should charge with what it gets and just take longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What it gets could be anything up to what it tries to take, but that
>>>>>>>>>> might overheat the power supply or the USB interface in the PC it is
>>>>>>>>>> charging from, or might cause the USB hub to current limit causing other
>>>>>>>>>> devices on the same hub fail through under-voltage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, but my point remains that if an Apple charger is not compatible
>>>>>>>>> with an Apple product, it should say so clearly on the box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends how it was sold. Was it marked as a universal charger for any Apple
>>>>>>>> product? Or was it sold as an iPad charger?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was a long time ago and I do not remember. I think they are on sale
>>>>>>> at WH Smith so I can take a look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is one of these
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN03B/A/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Under compatibility the iPod classic is not listed. But granted, it?s in
>>>>>> the small print, and in the headline info
>>>>>> ?Use this compact and convenient USB-based power adapter to charge your
>>>>>> iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector at home, on the road or
>>>>>> whenever it?s not connected to a computer. You can connect the adapter
>>>>>> directly to your device via the Lightning connector.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it might lead you to think it could charge your iPod.
>>>>>
>>>>> No - this one:
>>>>> https://genuineappleaccessories.co.uk/apple-accessories/apple-5w-eu-usb-power-adapter/
>>>>> which is the EU version of this:
>>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGN43B/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=ca9383411403837aa33a92da2969d1388fd6db9b75b6a50599437d08b6ffbb478ca7535e94b61fa55a71c1d7710e5f0d66ea4b644c7d2a39554e83b8eb76a0b7603a2124e0176e8b193976beaf31bb5eca42d3ab7e01888de2ec7833193816d71ecf9a1fa650aa01d79b9f81da786c38
>>>>> I cannot see any exclusion in either.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is your iPod one of these, as they are the only ones listed as compatible
>>>>
>>>> iPod Models
>>>> iPod touch (7th generation)
>>>> iPod touch (6th generation)
>>>> iPod touch (5th generation)
>>>> iPod nano (7th generation)
>>>> iPod shuffle (4th generation)
>>>
>>> No it's not. It's an iPod Classic but the overview says this:
>>>
>>> "Featuring an ultra-compact design, this power adapter offers fast,
>>> efficient charging at home, in the office or on the go. It works with
>>> any Apple Watch, iPhone or iPod model."
>>>
>>> This is more likely to be the wording on the box, but I can look in WH
>>> Smith.
>>>
>> I suspect the best you can do is to get your money back. I’m a
>> little,confused, as at the start of the thread you said it was the 2A
>> charger that didn’t work. This is a 5W charger, ie 1A.
>
> Apologies - my mistake. I *thought* it was 2.1A and the battery man
> said the problem was excessive amperage. The writing is tiny but I
> have now checked and it is indeed rated at 1A.
>
> As everyone has been telling me, it must be the control gear and
> nothing to do with the amperage.
>
> On a happier note, it charges my iPad Mini so no need to take it back.
>
> My concern really is that I nearly threw away a working iPod in the
> belief it was faulty when it would not charge with what I believed to
> be a compatible charger. As my father used to say, you learn
> something every day.
>
> Thanks to everyone for solving the mystery.
>

To be fair, the large print was misleading and you’d have no reason to
consult the small print given what was claimed in the large print. I can
see how the battery man came to the wrong conclusion, based on observations
of what works and what doesn’t.

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