Brian Gaff wrote:

> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet

Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a dishless STB,
effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>
> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a dishless STB,
> effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.
>

The Sky dish less service (aka Glass) isn’t going down too well with
customers. Eg

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Glass/Sky-Glass-Doesn-t-do-what-it-says-on-the-tin/td-p/3974843

There are also numerous other complaints on that forum. It is not a direct
replacement for their dish delivered service. Some dish delivered channels,
eg Talking Pictures, are missing.

On 14/04/2022 08:20, Andy Burns wrote:
> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>
> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a
> dishless STB, effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt
> screen.

I think that will prove to be more popular than Sky Glass. Sky Glass
almost feels like something Comcast HQ forced Sky UK to do, despite Sky
probably advising such a thing isn't going to fly in the UK market. Now
they've been vindicated, the Puck feels far more the way to go.........

On 14/04/2022 08:45, Tweed wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a dishless STB,
>> effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.
>>
> The Sky dish less service (aka Glass) isn’t going down too well with
> customers. Eg
>
> https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Glass/Sky-Glass-Doesn-t-do-what-it-says-on-the-tin/td-p/3974843
>
> There are also numerous other complaints on that forum. It is not a direct
> replacement for their dish delivered service. Some dish delivered channels,
> eg Talking Pictures, are missing.
>
It will require Talking Pictures et al, to provide themselves as a
streamed output. They probably can't afford to, all the time they are
also on DTT and D-Sat.

However, Sky's unstoppable direction of travel is to move completely to
streaming delivery, and get rid of satellite.

By the end of this decade (assuming humanity actually makes it that
far)  Glass and Puck will seen as comically primitive devices.

Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 08:45, Tweed wrote:
>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>>> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a dishless STB,
>>> effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.
>>>
>> The Sky dish less service (aka Glass) isn’t going down too well with
>> customers. Eg
>>
>> https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Glass/Sky-Glass-Doesn-t-do-what-it-says-on-the-tin/td-p/3974843
>>
>> There are also numerous other complaints on that forum. It is not a direct
>> replacement for their dish delivered service. Some dish delivered channels,
>> eg Talking Pictures, are missing.
>>
> It will require Talking Pictures et al, to provide themselves as a
> streamed output. They probably can't afford to, all the time they are
> also on DTT and D-Sat.
>
> However, Sky's unstoppable direction of travel is to move completely to
> streaming delivery, and get rid of satellite.
>
> By the end of this decade (assuming humanity actually makes it that
> far)  Glass and Puck will seen as comically primitive devices.
>

Well yes, satellite and DTT delivery will wither. I wonder if a rump DTT
service will continue? My son has a new flat that doesn’t have an aerial,
the previous occupants using a VM box. He’s getting by with an Amazon
Firestick which seems to provide live access to the PSB channels.

On 14/04/2022 08:45 am, Tweed wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>>
>> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a dishless STB,
>> effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.
>>
>
> The Sky dish less service (aka Glass) isn’t going down too well with
> customers. Eg
>
> https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Glass/Sky-Glass-Doesn-t-do-what-it-says-on-the-tin/td-p/3974843
>
> There are also numerous other complaints on that forum. It is not a direct
> replacement for their dish delivered service. Some dish delivered channels,
> eg Talking Pictures, are missing.

Problem...

But at least TPTV is on Freeview.

On 14/04/2022 08:52 am, Mark Carver wrote:

> On 14/04/2022 08:45, Tweed wrote:
>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>>>> If you get Sky Q now one assumes that the boxes simply use the internet
>>> Apparently they will be launching the Sky Stream Puck which is a
>>> dishless STB,
>>> effectively the guts of a Sky Glass without the inbuilt screen.
>
>> The Sky dish less service (aka Glass) isn’t going down too well with
>> customers. Eg
>
>> https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Glass/Sky-Glass-Doesn-t-do-what-it-says-on-the-tin/td-p/3974843
>
>> There are also numerous other complaints on that forum. It is not a
>> direct replacement for their dish delivered service. Some dish
>> delivered channels, eg Talking Pictures, are missing.
>>
> It will require Talking Pictures et al, to provide themselves as a
> streamed output. They probably can't afford to, all the time they are
> also on DTT and D-Sat.

Interesting. TPTV now has a web-based on-demand catch-up service, but
only available via a browser (of whatever sort).

I wonder how much more expensive it would be for TPTV to make their
server contents available to the Sky catch-up service (for download to a
drive rather than streaming)? Sky already has BBC, ITV, C4, C5, UKTV,
Sky (of course), plus Peacock and other services.
>
> However, Sky's unstoppable direction of travel is to move completely to
> streaming delivery, and get rid of satellite.
>
> By the end of this decade (assuming humanity actually makes it that
> far)  Glass and Puck will seen as comically primitive devices.