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Re: Legal discrimination. Mandatory vaccination for work or to enter business

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 by: Dechucka - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 22:46 UTC

On 17/09/2021 8:28 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:01:21 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 17/09/2021 7:47 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:00:02 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>> <Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:48:45 +1000, Dechucka posted:-
>>>>
>>>>> On 16/09/2021 11:39 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> Fran wrote on 16/9/21 11:06 am:
>>>>>>> On 15/09/2021 4:41 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have downloaded all my vaccination details including the current
>>>>>>>> virus shots from the "MyGov" web site.  I make copies to my mobile
>>>>>>>> phone, and hard copies to keep in the car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can do the download to the home computer but as to how I'd get
>>>>>>> it on my phone ........  I've got my paper copy but that will be
>>>>>>> dogeared in about a week of use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My phone doesn't do QR codes either. I figure I could download the
>>>>>> App from Google, or wherever, but that would require me setting up
>>>>>> an account ... and why should I have to do that when I should be
>>>>>> able to get the Doc straight from the mygov site??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have e-mail on my phone, either, but have considered
>>>>>> setting up my mygov account on the phone's browser (which I guess
>>>>>> it Chrome!), so, if I needed to, I could connect to mygov, go to
>>>>>> Health or whatever and show the Immunisation Doc from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have fun setting up the myGov a/c with the need for MyGovID. The
>>>>> bloke I got onto to get a physical copy of my immunisation record
>>>>> also worked on the MyGovID helpline and even he admitted it was a dog
>>>>> of a program, might of just being nice to this old codger. I'm not a
>>>>> tech-head but can set up all the other stuff on my phone including
>>>>> RFS stuff that needs some fairly strong ID info but gave up on
>>>>> MyGovID.
>>>>
>>>> No problems here at all.
>>>>
>>> A worry if you are a tax dodger.
>>
>> Wouldn't know, is it?
>>
> ICAC got my neighbours mobile and bugged it!
> In court the ICAC prosecutor as him a question to which he denied.
> The ICAC prosecutor immediately played him back a recording confirming
> he was lying, "Is this not you?", my neighbour went white.
> Some years later he went to court and sentenced to 3 years jail (had
> to sell his house)

I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
from our secret bat-phones
>>>
>>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
>>
>> No problem at all in this pandemic as the information disappears in 28
>> days and it is easier than getting them to do it or filling in a paper copy
>>
>>> When you use Q-Code check-in it needs your smart phone to confirm you
>>> have checked in and checked out.
>>> If it picks up someone who has tested positive while you were in
>>> premises you will be texted to do a covid test.
>>
>> Is that how it works? Expected a phone call to tell me what to do.
>>
> Seems a week to finish the present test

We may be stuffed
>
>>> You must use the Q-Code app to turn on recognition.
>>
>> Turn on what recognition
>>
> Camera the lock on to Q-Code then asks you to check in by clicking
> screen (your mobile must have data on)

oh ok
>>
>>> Supposed to be able to just turn tour camera on but this method id
>>> dodgy, often not working.
>>>
>>> You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>>> downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>>> recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>>> phone to "Sign you in"
>>> <https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>>> https://is.gd/zOsONj
>>> Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>>>
>>> A new mobile?
>>
>> No thanks the one I've got is fine with it's ALDI sim, the only app I've
>> ever had a problem setting up is the myGovID. Getting my paper copy,
>> with or without hologram, soon (hopefully).
>>
> ALDI use Telstra, fine if you are in a area that has no problems with
> it

Does have problems but is the best around here. BRING BACK CDMA!!!!!!

> I use Amaysim which use OPTUS years ago Optus were the only reliable
> service at my house, never bothered changing for $8 every 28 days I
> get Mobile and 2gb of data, which they sofar top up to ten every month
> free.
> Sofar fast and reliable even on the train while moving to/from city.
>>
>> I'll use it as proof of it so I can get into those places that demand
>> proof of vaccination. OK I believe that this is discriminatory and won't
>> work if they let kids who aren't vaccinated in and knowing the
>> vaccinated people can spread the disease.
>> As a health measure it is useless but may work to encourage people to
>> get vaccinated
>>
>
> If just masked kids it reduces chance almost to zero,

Not zero but reduces spread, same applies to adults. Unless the
vaccination mandates apply to everybody it is a waste of time. As it is
being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.

but if a kid or
> adult is in the premises you were in at same time, you will be
> contacted to be tested,
> https://ibb.co/3kr9v01 after covid test.
>

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:11 UTC

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:46:14 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>>>> A worry if you are a tax dodger.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't know, is it?
>>>
>> ICAC got my neighbours mobile and bugged it!
>> In court the ICAC prosecutor as him a question to which he denied.
>> The ICAC prosecutor immediately played him back a recording confirming
>> he was lying, "Is this not you?", my neighbour went white.
>> Some years later he went to court and sentenced to 3 years jail (had
>> to sell his house)
>
>I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
>watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
>from our secret bat-phones
>
Which group were you in to get there?
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/special-attention/5855212

>>>>
>>>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
>>>
>>> No problem at all in this pandemic as the information disappears in 28
>>> days and it is easier than getting them to do it or filling in a paper copy
>>>
>>>> When you use Q-Code check-in it needs your smart phone to confirm you
>>>> have checked in and checked out.
>>>> If it picks up someone who has tested positive while you were in
>>>> premises you will be texted to do a covid test.
>>>
>>> Is that how it works? Expected a phone call to tell me what to do.
>>>
>> Seems a week to finish the present test
>
>We may be stuffed
>
They have a home test kit which takes 15 minutes US$5
Australia wants the $200 a test which takes days?
<https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-08-26-Abbotts-Fast-5-15-Minute-Easy-to-Use-COVID-19-Antigen-Test-Receives-FDA-Emergency-Use-Authorization-Mobile-App-Displays-Test-Results-to-Help-Our-Return-to-Daily-Life-Ramping-Production-to-50-Million-Tests-a-Month>
https://is.gd/xJrdV5
ABBOTT'S FAST, $5, 15-MINUTE, EASY-TO-USE COVID-19 ANTIGEN TEST
RECEIVES FDA EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION; MOBILE APP DISPLAYS TEST
RESULTS TO HELP OUR RETURN TO DAILY LIFE; RAMPING PRODUCTION TO 50
MILLION TESTS A MONTH
>>
>>>> You must use the Q-Code app to turn on recognition.
>>>
>>> Turn on what recognition
>>>
>> Camera the lock on to Q-Code then asks you to check in by clicking
>> screen (your mobile must have data on)
>
>oh ok
>>>
>>>> Supposed to be able to just turn tour camera on but this method id
>>>> dodgy, often not working.
>>>>
>>>> You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>>>> downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>>>> recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>>>> phone to "Sign you in"
>>>> <https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>>>> https://is.gd/zOsONj
>>>> Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>>>>
>>>> A new mobile?
>>>
>>> No thanks the one I've got is fine with it's ALDI sim, the only app I've
>>> ever had a problem setting up is the myGovID. Getting my paper copy,
>>> with or without hologram, soon (hopefully).
>>>
>> ALDI use Telstra, fine if you are in a area that has no problems with
>> it
>
>Does have problems but is the best around here. BRING BACK CDMA!!!!!!
>
You can try/test Amaysim Optus
https://www.amaysim.com.au/plans/short-plans/
>
>> I use Amaysim which use OPTUS years ago Optus were the only reliable
>> service at my house, never bothered changing for $8 every 28 days I
>> get Mobile and 2gb of data, which they sofar top up to ten every month
>> free.
>> Sofar fast and reliable even on the train while moving to/from city.
>>>
>>> I'll use it as proof of it so I can get into those places that demand
>>> proof of vaccination. OK I believe that this is discriminatory and won't
>>> work if they let kids who aren't vaccinated in and knowing the
>>> vaccinated people can spread the disease.
>>> As a health measure it is useless but may work to encourage people to
>>> get vaccinated
>>>
>>
>> If just masked kids it reduces chance almost to zero,
>
>Not zero but reduces spread, same applies to adults. Unless the
>vaccination mandates apply to everybody it is a waste of time. As it is
>being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>
All a mask does is stop the spread. never heard a kid sneeze in a
shop?
>
>>but if a kid or
>> adult is in the premises you were in at same time, you will be
>> contacted to be tested,
>> https://ibb.co/3kr9v01 after covid test.
>>
--
Petzl
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will be the philosophy of government in the next
- Abraham Lincoln

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:43 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> On 17/09/2021 7:47 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:00:02 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>> <Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:48:45 +1000, Dechucka posted:-
>>>
>>>> On 16/09/2021 11:39 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Fran wrote on 16/9/21 11:06 am:
>>>>>> On 15/09/2021 4:41 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have downloaded all my vaccination details including the current
>>>>>>> virus shots from the "MyGov" web site. I make copies to my mobile
>>>>>>> phone, and hard copies to keep in the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can do the download to the home computer but as to how I'd get
>>>>>> it on my phone ........ I've got my paper copy but that will be
>>>>>> dogeared in about a week of use.
>>>>>
>>>>> My phone doesn't do QR codes either. I figure I could download the
>>>>> App from Google, or wherever, but that would require me setting up
>>>>> an account ... and why should I have to do that when I should be
>>>>> able to get the Doc straight from the mygov site??
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have e-mail on my phone, either, but have considered
>>>>> setting up my mygov account on the phone's browser (which I guess
>>>>> it Chrome!), so, if I needed to, I could connect to mygov, go to
>>>>> Health or whatever and show the Immunisation Doc from there.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun setting up the myGov a/c with the need for MyGovID. The
>>>> bloke I got onto to get a physical copy of my immunisation record
>>>> also worked on the MyGovID helpline and even he admitted it was a dog
>>>> of a program, might of just being nice to this old codger. I'm not a
>>>> tech-head but can set up all the other stuff on my phone including
>>>> RFS stuff that needs some fairly strong ID info but gave up on
>>>> MyGovID.
>>>
>>> No problems here at all.
>>>
>> A worry if you are a tax dodger.
>
> Wouldn't know, is it?
>>
>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
>
> No problem at all in this pandemic as the information disappears in 28
> days and it is easier than getting them to do it or filling in a paper
> copy
>
>> When you use Q-Code check-in it needs your smart phone to confirm you
>> have checked in and checked out.
>> If it picks up someone who has tested positive while you were in
>> premises you will be texted to do a covid test.
>
> Is that how it works? Expected a phone call to tell me what to do.
>
>> You must use the Q-Code app to turn on recognition.
>
> Turn on what recognition
>
>> Supposed to be able to just turn tour camera on but this method id
>> dodgy, often not working.
>>
>> You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>> downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>> recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>> phone to "Sign you in"
>> <https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>> https://is.gd/zOsONj
>> Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>>
>> A new mobile?
>
> No thanks the one I've got is fine with it's ALDI sim, the only app I've
> ever had a problem setting up is the myGovID. Getting my paper copy, with
> or without hologram, soon (hopefully).

> I'll use it as proof of it so I can get into those places that demand
> proof of vaccination. OK I believe that this is discriminatory

So is allowing you RFS apes where others aren't allowed, fuckwit.

> and won't work if they let kids who aren't vaccinated in and knowing the
> vaccinated people can spread the disease.

Kids are irrelevant to that, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:46 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the vaccinated
>>>>>>>> can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> but will
>>>>
>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>
>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>
>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.

> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
> still get infected

Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.

> and pass on the Sydney sniffle when vaccinated it will it not lead to more
> spread. Pick it up in the venue and spread the joy at home.
>
>>
>> That’s not what you originally claimed in the shit you have
>> now carefully deleted from the quoting,
>
> Originally I said it was discriminatory but the thread has morphed with
> some like you unable to put forward a consistent and cogent posistion.

You are the one with that problem, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:51 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> On 17/09/2021 8:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:01:21 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/09/2021 7:47 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:00:02 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>>> <Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:48:45 +1000, Dechucka posted:-
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/09/2021 11:39 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>>> Fran wrote on 16/9/21 11:06 am:
>>>>>>>> On 15/09/2021 4:41 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have downloaded all my vaccination details including the current
>>>>>>>>> virus shots from the "MyGov" web site. I make copies to my mobile
>>>>>>>>> phone, and hard copies to keep in the car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can do the download to the home computer but as to how I'd get
>>>>>>>> it on my phone ........ I've got my paper copy but that will be
>>>>>>>> dogeared in about a week of use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My phone doesn't do QR codes either. I figure I could download the
>>>>>>> App from Google, or wherever, but that would require me setting up
>>>>>>> an account ... and why should I have to do that when I should be
>>>>>>> able to get the Doc straight from the mygov site??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have e-mail on my phone, either, but have considered
>>>>>>> setting up my mygov account on the phone's browser (which I guess
>>>>>>> it Chrome!), so, if I needed to, I could connect to mygov, go to
>>>>>>> Health or whatever and show the Immunisation Doc from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun setting up the myGov a/c with the need for MyGovID. The
>>>>>> bloke I got onto to get a physical copy of my immunisation record
>>>>>> also worked on the MyGovID helpline and even he admitted it was a dog
>>>>>> of a program, might of just being nice to this old codger. I'm not a
>>>>>> tech-head but can set up all the other stuff on my phone including
>>>>>> RFS stuff that needs some fairly strong ID info but gave up on
>>>>>> MyGovID.
>>>>>
>>>>> No problems here at all.
>>>>>
>>>> A worry if you are a tax dodger.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't know, is it?
>>>
>> ICAC got my neighbours mobile and bugged it!
>> In court the ICAC prosecutor as him a question to which he denied.
>> The ICAC prosecutor immediately played him back a recording confirming
>> he was lying, "Is this not you?", my neighbour went white.
>> Some years later he went to court and sentenced to 3 years jail (had
>> to sell his house)
>
> I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
> watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO from
> our secret bat-phones
>>>>
>>>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
>>>
>>> No problem at all in this pandemic as the information disappears in 28
>>> days and it is easier than getting them to do it or filling in a paper
>>> copy
>>>
>>>> When you use Q-Code check-in it needs your smart phone to confirm you
>>>> have checked in and checked out.
>>>> If it picks up someone who has tested positive while you were in
>>>> premises you will be texted to do a covid test.
>>>
>>> Is that how it works? Expected a phone call to tell me what to do.
>>>
>> Seems a week to finish the present test
>
> We may be stuffed
>>
>>>> You must use the Q-Code app to turn on recognition.
>>>
>>> Turn on what recognition
>>>
>> Camera the lock on to Q-Code then asks you to check in by clicking
>> screen (your mobile must have data on)
>
> oh ok
>>>
>>>> Supposed to be able to just turn tour camera on but this method id
>>>> dodgy, often not working.
>>>>
>>>> You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>>>> downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>>>> recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>>>> phone to "Sign you in"
>>>> <https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>>>> https://is.gd/zOsONj
>>>> Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>>>>
>>>> A new mobile?
>>>
>>> No thanks the one I've got is fine with it's ALDI sim, the only app I've
>>> ever had a problem setting up is the myGovID. Getting my paper copy,
>>> with or without hologram, soon (hopefully).
>>>
>> ALDI use Telstra, fine if you are in a area that has no problems with
>> it
>
> Does have problems but is the best around here. BRING BACK CDMA!!!!!!
>
>> I use Amaysim which use OPTUS years ago Optus were the only reliable
>> service at my house, never bothered changing for $8 every 28 days I
>> get Mobile and 2gb of data, which they sofar top up to ten every month
>> free.
>> Sofar fast and reliable even on the train while moving to/from city.
>>>
>>> I'll use it as proof of it so I can get into those places that demand
>>> proof of vaccination. OK I believe that this is discriminatory and won't
>>> work if they let kids who aren't vaccinated in and knowing the
>>> vaccinated people can spread the disease.
>>> As a health measure it is useless but may work to encourage people to
>>> get vaccinated
>>>
>>
>> If just masked kids it reduces chance almost to zero,
>
> Not zero but reduces spread, same applies to adults. Unless the
> vaccination mandates apply to everybody it is a waste of time.

More mindless bullshit. It dramatically reduces the spread
by vaccinated adults and even a terminal fuckwit such as
yourself should have noticed that there are a lot more
adults than kids in all but schools and day care etc, fuckwit.

> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.

So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.

> but if a kid or
>> adult is in the premises you were in at same time, you will be
>> contacted to be tested,
>> https://ibb.co/3kr9v01 after covid test.
>>
>

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 00:06 UTC

On 17/09/2021 9:11 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:46:14 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> snip
>>>>> A worry if you are a tax dodger.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't know, is it?
>>>>
>>> ICAC got my neighbours mobile and bugged it!
>>> In court the ICAC prosecutor as him a question to which he denied.
>>> The ICAC prosecutor immediately played him back a recording confirming
>>> he was lying, "Is this not you?", my neighbour went white.
>>> Some years later he went to court and sentenced to 3 years jail (had
>>> to sell his house)
>>
>> I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
>> watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
>>from our secret bat-phones
>>
> Which group were you in to get there?
> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/special-attention/5855212

Some mates and I used to go to a lot of the political meetings around
the campus, from the left to the right, for the free piss. My file is
hilarious apparently I was a communist or fascist with main stream
political leanings. First time I was vetted it gave them a good laugh.
When the Special Branch was disbanded you could get pay for a copy of
your file, I can understand why they found it funny.

>
>>>>>
>>>>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
>>>>
>>>> No problem at all in this pandemic as the information disappears in 28
>>>> days and it is easier than getting them to do it or filling in a paper copy
>>>>
>>>>> When you use Q-Code check-in it needs your smart phone to confirm you
>>>>> have checked in and checked out.
>>>>> If it picks up someone who has tested positive while you were in
>>>>> premises you will be texted to do a covid test.
>>>>
>>>> Is that how it works? Expected a phone call to tell me what to do.
>>>>
>>> Seems a week to finish the present test
>>
>> We may be stuffed
>>
> They have a home test kit which takes 15 minutes US$5
> Australia wants the $200 a test which takes days?
> <https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-08-26-Abbotts-Fast-5-15-Minute-Easy-to-Use-COVID-19-Antigen-Test-Receives-FDA-Emergency-Use-Authorization-Mobile-App-Displays-Test-Results-to-Help-Our-Return-to-Daily-Life-Ramping-Production-to-50-Million-Tests-a-Month>
> https://is.gd/xJrdV5
> ABBOTT'S FAST, $5, 15-MINUTE, EASY-TO-USE COVID-19 ANTIGEN TEST
> RECEIVES FDA EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION; MOBILE APP DISPLAYS TEST
> RESULTS TO HELP OUR RETURN TO DAILY LIFE; RAMPING PRODUCTION TO 50
> MILLION TESTS A MONTH
>>>
>>>>> You must use the Q-Code app to turn on recognition.
>>>>
>>>> Turn on what recognition
>>>>
>>> Camera the lock on to Q-Code then asks you to check in by clicking
>>> screen (your mobile must have data on)
>>
>> oh ok
>>>>
>>>>> Supposed to be able to just turn tour camera on but this method id
>>>>> dodgy, often not working.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>>>>> downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>>>>> recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>>>>> phone to "Sign you in"
>>>>> <https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>>>>> https://is.gd/zOsONj
>>>>> Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>>>>>
>>>>> A new mobile?
>>>>
>>>> No thanks the one I've got is fine with it's ALDI sim, the only app I've
>>>> ever had a problem setting up is the myGovID. Getting my paper copy,
>>>> with or without hologram, soon (hopefully).
>>>>
>>> ALDI use Telstra, fine if you are in a area that has no problems with
>>> it
>>
>> Does have problems but is the best around here. BRING BACK CDMA!!!!!!
>>
snip

>>> If just masked kids it reduces chance almost to zero,
>>
>> Not zero but reduces spread, same applies to adults. Unless the
>> vaccination mandates apply to everybody it is a waste of time. As it is
>> being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>>
> All a mask does is stop the spread.

Ye
> never heard a kid sneeze in a
> shop?

I have

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 00:07 UTC

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>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>
> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.

Which is where

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 00:41 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.
> Which is where

Where there is a major bushfire, fuckwit.

So is who can go in school classrooms, fuckwit.

So is who can visit their relos in nursing homes, fuckwit.

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 by: Peter Jason - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:00 UTC

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 07:50:48 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:39:58 +1000, Daniel65
><daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>>Fran wrote on 16/9/21 11:06 am:
>>> On 15/09/2021 4:41 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>><Snip>
>snip more
>
>>My phone doesn't do QR codes either. I figure I could download the App
>>from Google, or wherever, but that would require me setting up an
>>account ... and why should I have to do that when I should be able to
>>get the Doc straight from the mygov site??
>>
>>I don't have e-mail on my phone, either, but have considered setting up
>>my mygov account on the phone's browser (which I guess it Chrome!), so,
>>if I needed to, I could connect to mygov, go to Health or whatever and
>>show the Immunisation Doc from there.
>>
>You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>phone to "Sign you in"
><https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>https://is.gd/zOsONj
>Create a COVID-19 check-in card

Does it work in VIC?

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:06 UTC

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:06:47 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>>
>>> I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
>>> watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
>>>from our secret bat-phones
>>>
>> Which group were you in to get there?
>> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/special-attention/5855212
>
>Some mates and I used to go to a lot of the political meetings around
>the campus, from the left to the right, for the free piss. My file is
>hilarious apparently I was a communist or fascist with main stream
>political leanings. First time I was vetted it gave them a good laugh.
>When the Special Branch was disbanded you could get pay for a copy of
>your file, I can understand why they found it funny.
>
Thought you may of been a lump in the road for LBJ's limo
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/lbj/5875392
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But saw nothing innocuous in giving name address and *Mobile* number.
snip more
>snip
>
>>>> If just masked kids it reduces chance almost to zero,
>>>
>>> Not zero but reduces spread, same applies to adults. Unless the
>>> vaccination mandates apply to everybody it is a waste of time. As it is
>>> being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>>>
>> All a mask does is stop the spread.
>
>Yes
>
>> never heard a kid sneeze in a
>> shop?
>
>I have
>
must happen
>snip
--
Petzl
The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country.
All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and
vice versa, preferences at election time.

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:09 UTC

On 17/09/2021 10:41 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>
>>> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.
>
>> Which is where
>
> Where there is a major bushfire, fuckwit.

I've no problem with you entering one
> So is who can go in school classrooms, fuckwit.

Anybody can if invited. Oh I see your problem you need a Working with
Children number which you can't get

> So is who can visit their relos in nursing homes, fuckwit.

Anyone depending on their rules. I can't even goto Sydney to see my parents

Anyhow as you refuse to get vaccinated you wouldn't what to go to any of
those placest

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:11 UTC

On 17/09/2021 11:06 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:06:47 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
>>>> watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
>>> >from our secret bat-phones
>>>>
>>> Which group were you in to get there?
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/special-attention/5855212
>>
>> Some mates and I used to go to a lot of the political meetings around
>> the campus, from the left to the right, for the free piss. My file is
>> hilarious apparently I was a communist or fascist with main stream
>> political leanings. First time I was vetted it gave them a good laugh.
>> When the Special Branch was disbanded you could get pay for a copy of
>> your file, I can understand why they found it funny.
>>
> Thought you may of been a lump in the road for LBJ's limo

I'm glad you manage a thought more than 'need more 'goon

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:21 UTC

On 17/09/2021 9:46 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but will
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>
>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>
>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>
>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
>> still get infected
>
> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.

So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:22 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>>>> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.
>>> Which is where
>> Where there is a major bushfire, fuckwit.

> I've no problem with you entering one

But the govt and the cops do, fuckwit.

>> So is who can go in school classrooms, fuckwit.
> Anybody can if invited.

But cant if no invited, fuckwit.

>> So is who can visit their relos in nursing homes, fuckwit.
> Anyone depending on their rules.

Not in the LGAs of concern, fuckwit.

> I can't even goto Sydney to see my parents

So you are being discriminated against, fuckwit.

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:36 UTC

On 17/09/2021 11:22 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>
>>>>> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go, fuckwit.
>
>>>> Which is where
>
>>> Where there is a major bushfire, fuckwit.
>
>> I've no problem with you entering one
>
> But the govt and the cops do, fuckwit.

So what?

>>> So is who can go in school classrooms, fuckwit.
>
>> Anybody can if invited.
>
> But cant if no invited, fuckwit.

Same applies to the RFS

>>> So is who can visit their relos in nursing homes, fuckwit.
>
>> Anyone depending on their rules.
>
> Not in the LGAs of concern, fuckwit.

That is why I said depending on the rules

>> I can't even goto Sydney to see my parents
>
> So you are being discriminated against, fuckwit.

Do you actually know what discrimination means?

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:58 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>
>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>>
>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
>>> still get infected
>>
>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>
> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?

Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 02:01 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> As it is being discussed at the moment imho it is discriminatory.
>>
>>>>>> So is letting RFS apes go where others are not allowed to go,
>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>
>>>>> Which is where
>>
>>>> Where there is a major bushfire, fuckwit.
>>
>>> I've no problem with you entering one
>>
>> But the govt and the cops do, fuckwit.
>
> So what?

So there is always a vast amount of discrimination, fuckwit.

>>>> So is who can go in school classrooms, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Anybody can if invited.
>>
>> But cant if no invited, fuckwit.
>
> Same applies to the RFS

So there is always a vast amount of discrimination, fuckwit.

>>>> So is who can visit their relos in nursing homes, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Anyone depending on their rules.
>>
>> Not in the LGAs of concern, fuckwit.
>
> That is why I said depending on the rules

So there is always a vast amount of discrimination, fuckwit.

>>> I can't even goto Sydney to see my parents
>>
>> So you are being discriminated against, fuckwit.
>
> Do you actually know what discrimination means?

Corse I do with those examples I listed, fuckwit.

And with a vast raft of others like the aged pension, the child
rebates, you clowns that pretend to be farmers etc etc etc.

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 02:26 UTC

On 17/09/2021 11:58 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless
>>>>>>> when infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>>>
>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you
>>>> can still get infected
>>>
>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>
>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>
> Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.

So you are happy for them to be spreaders, fin

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:27 UTC

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:00:50 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 07:50:48 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 23:39:58 +1000, Daniel65
>><daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Fran wrote on 16/9/21 11:06 am:
>>>> On 15/09/2021 4:41 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>><Snip>
>>snip more
>>
>>>My phone doesn't do QR codes either. I figure I could download the App
>>>from Google, or wherever, but that would require me setting up an
>>>account ... and why should I have to do that when I should be able to
>>>get the Doc straight from the mygov site??
>>>
>>>I don't have e-mail on my phone, either, but have considered setting up
>>>my mygov account on the phone's browser (which I guess it Chrome!), so,
>>>if I needed to, I could connect to mygov, go to Health or whatever and
>>>show the Immunisation Doc from there.
>>>
>>You can now get a personal Q-Code credit card size posted and or
>>downloaded to you, They are only good if the pub/wherever has a Q-Code
>>recognition computer, I-pad, android tablet or even another mobile
>>phone to "Sign you in"
>><https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/create-covid-19-check-card>
>>https://is.gd/zOsONj
>>Create a COVID-19 check-in card
>
>Does it work in VIC?
>
Victoria probably have their own type
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The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country.
All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and
vice versa, preferences at election time.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:28 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>>>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>>>>
>>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
>>>>> still get infected
>>>>
>>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>>
>> Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.
>
> So you are happy for them to be spreaders,

Nope, realise that it isn't feasible to ban all kids from any shopping,
fuckwit.

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:29 UTC

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:58:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>>>
>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
>>>> still get infected
>>>
>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>
>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>
>Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.
>
Both parents vaccinated, masked children are no threat.
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:55 UTC

On 17/09/2021 1:28 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless
>>>>>>>>> when infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of
>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you
>>>>>> can still get infected
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>>>
>>> Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.
>>
>> So you are happy for them to be spreaders,
>
> Nope, realise that it isn't feasible to ban all kids from any shopping,
> fuckwit.
>
>
So if kids are allowed in these businesses requiring vaccine passports
why have them?

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:56 UTC

On 17/09/2021 1:29 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:58:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless when
>>>>>>>> infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of infection.
>>>>
>>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you can
>>>>> still get infected
>>>>
>>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>>
>> Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.
>>
> Both parents vaccinated, masked children are no threat.

Of course they are a threat of being spreaders or are you claiming
masked adults are safe?
>

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 by: Fran - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 05:02 UTC

On 17/09/2021 11:06 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:06:47 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> I had a NSW 'Special Branch' file when I was at Uni so they are always
>>>> watching. We don't all have the benefit to a special hot-line to ASIO
>>> >from our secret bat-phones
>>>>
>>> Which group were you in to get there?
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/special-attention/5855212
>>
>> Some mates and I used to go to a lot of the political meetings around
>> the campus, from the left to the right, for the free piss. My file is
>> hilarious apparently I was a communist or fascist with main stream
>> political leanings. First time I was vetted it gave them a good laugh.
>> When the Special Branch was disbanded you could get pay for a copy of
>> your file, I can understand why they found it funny.
>>
> Thought you may of been a lump in the road for LBJ's limo
> https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/hindsight/lbj/5875392

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 05:09 UTC

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 7:53 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is my alternative?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not allowing kids who haven't been vaccinated where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaccinated can go, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shops who demand proof of vaccination
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> None do, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'll see,,,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And your stupidity wont make any difference because
>>>>>>>>>> even vaccinated people are still at very significant risk
>>>>>>>>>> of being infected and infecting others. In fact significantly
>>>>>>>>>> more risk because they are much more likely to be symptomless
>>>>>>>>>> when infected and so not only wont they
>>>>>>>>>> get tested, they cant be seen to be a significant risk either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agree so the propose 'vaccine passport ' is stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. It does significantly reduce the risk of
>>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How if according to you non vaccinated kids will be exempt and you
>>>>>>> can still get infected
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because the risk with vaccinated people is much lower, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why exempt un-vaccinated kids?
>>>>
>>>> Because most cant be vaccinated yet, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> So you are happy for them to be spreaders,
>>
>> Nope, realise that it isn't feasible to
>> ban all kids from any shopping, fuckwit.

> So if kids are allowed in these businesses
> requiring vaccine passports why have them?

Because far more of them are vaccinated adults who
have a radically reduced risk of being infected, fuckwit.

And no store that matters will ban the unvaccinated anyway, fuckwit.

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