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* Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
+* Re: Samsung TV crashed againJeff Layman
|+- Re: Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
|`* Re: Samsung TV crashed againpinnerite
| `- Re: Samsung TV crashed againJeff Layman
+* Re: Samsung TV crashed againDavey
|+* Re: Samsung TV crashed againwilliamwright
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|`- Re: Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
`* Re: Samsung TV crashed againJNugent
 `* Re: Samsung TV crashed againIndy Jess John
  +* Re: Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gregory
  |`- Re: Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
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  `* Re: Samsung TV crashed againBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 6 May 2022 07:30 UTC

There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time
the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
no issues.
Brian

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 by: Jeff Layman - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:20 UTC

Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just
wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time
when an update screwed some things up.

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Jeff

On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time
> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
> no issues.
> Brian
>

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 by: Davey - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:57 UTC

On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:30:21 +0100
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
> software to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and
> just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and
> start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and
> Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen.
> As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the
> pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
> Brian
>

We have a Cello TV set, and originally it would easily get confused by
any set of remote control key presses that didn't mean anything, instead
of just waiting for a real instruction, it would clam up and sulk. It's
better now, maybe we are more careful what we try to get it to do. But
it still reverts to its old habits on occasion.
--
Davey.

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 by: williamwright - Fri, 6 May 2022 12:17 UTC

On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
> We have a Cello TV set,

Aren't they rather dreadful?

Bill

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 6 May 2022 16:11 UTC

On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time
> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
> no issues.
> Brian

It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 6 May 2022 16:12 UTC

On 06/05/2022 01:17 pm, williamwright wrote:

> On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:

>> We have a Cello TV set,
>
> Aren't they rather dreadful?
>
No-one ever got the sack for buying Sony.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 6 May 2022 18:05 UTC

Well I'm assuming it will as a while ago it stopped being sensible at all
and I had t get Samsung to come in and fiddle with it, They could not make
it work, so they did a factory reset. Then I got a sighted friend to get it
back, but the bluetooth keyboard still won't work. I suspect you are correct
though as we all know when companies fix a bug they create more in other
places!

Brian

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"Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just
> wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
> mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time when
> an update screwed some things up.
>
> --
>
> Jeff
>
> On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
>> software
>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
>> time
>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before
>> with
>> no issues.
>> Brian
>>
>

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 6 May 2022 18:29 UTC

Yes you never know wha to do with the bow.

Actually, yes I think their remotes were designed by the person on work
experience.
Are Polaroid ones still out there, they seem to have no accessibility
features at all as far as I can deduce.
LG are also pretty good blind people say.
Brian

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> On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
>> We have a Cello TV set,
>
> Aren't they rather dreadful?
>
> Bill

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 by: Indy Jess John - Fri, 6 May 2022 19:06 UTC

On 06/05/2022 17:11, JNugent wrote:
> On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>
>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
>> software
>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
>> time
>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times
>> before with
>> no issues.
>>   Brian
>
> It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.

I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it, surely?

Jim

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 by: Brian Gregory - Fri, 6 May 2022 20:13 UTC

On 06/05/2022 20:06, Indy Jess John wrote:
> I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
> HDMI connections before powering on.  There must be a reason for it,
> surely?

Could be. I find most problems occur when connecting one item that is
earthed (like a desktop PC) to one that isn't (like many modern TVs).
The sudden discharge of the class Y capacitor in the TV can cause either
device to crash.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 6 May 2022 23:07 UTC

On 06/05/2022 08:06 pm, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 06/05/2022 17:11, JNugent wrote:
>> On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
>>> software
>>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like
>>> with
>>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again.
>>> This time
>>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and
>>> the
>>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
>>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times
>>> before with
>>> no issues.
>>>   Brian
>>
>> It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.
>
> I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
> HDMI connections before powering on.  There must be a reason for it,
> surely?

Probably.

But once it has crashed for the first time, the easiest way to deal with
that (for Sky+HD) is to withdraw the figure-of-8 mains connector (easily
done, even from the front) and power up by re-inserting it 30s later. No
disconnection of HDMI. It still crashes every now and then.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sat, 7 May 2022 06:58 UTC

Yes not enough user testing. One software engineer some years ago told me
that he always let somebody completely abuse the controls by letting them
experiment and see if it could stand it. Its just a case of trapping errors.
However with the modern smart telly, you often find several different people
doing different bits of the interface. Say a core based on Android but
customised. The basic controlling of the set. The audio output part for
speech on things like program guides and menus, then there is interfaces
for Alexa and Samsungs own Bixby, and I notice it now claims to support
Google as well, and then there are the apps for playing online content, paid
for or free all of which need you to interface a Bluetooth keyboard.
I am told a lot of people have now given up on the latter bits and added an
Amazon firestick for the internet delivered channels.
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> On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:30:21 +0100
> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
>> software to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and
>> just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and
>> start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and
>> Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen.
>> As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the
>> pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
>> Brian
>>
>
> We have a Cello TV set, and originally it would easily get confused by
> any set of remote control key presses that didn't mean anything, instead
> of just waiting for a real instruction, it would clam up and sulk. It's
> better now, maybe we are more careful what we try to get it to do. But
> it still reverts to its old habits on occasion.
> --
> Davey.
>

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sat, 7 May 2022 07:05 UTC

Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc and
on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to the
set and there seems no way to stop it. So one hadd to buy an interface for
normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so one can still use
the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that, its pointless
attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as they impart a nasty
hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical to analogue unit from
that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you wiggle it you can get it
silent till the next time.
In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved.
Brian

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> On 06/05/2022 17:11, JNugent wrote:
>> On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
>>> software
>>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like
>>> with
>>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
>>> time
>>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and
>>> the
>>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
>>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before
>>> with
>>> no issues.
>>> Brian
>>
>> It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.
>
> I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the HDMI
> connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it, surely?
>
> Jim
>

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sat, 7 May 2022 07:07 UTC

Yes, I guess that is probably something to do with it. Now its plugged in
permanently, however if I am statically charged, I get a big crack as I
discharge to the metal screen surround of the tv.
Still it wakes you up I suppose.
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> On 06/05/2022 20:06, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
>> HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it,
>> surely?
>
> Could be. I find most problems occur when connecting one item that is
> earthed (like a desktop PC) to one that isn't (like many modern TVs). The
> sudden discharge of the class Y capacitor in the TV can cause either
> device to crash.
>
> --
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In article <t555ng$tam$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
> and on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to
> the set and there seems no way to stop it.

that's not an HDMI's problem. It's your PC deciding it knows best

> So one hadd to buy an
> interface for normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so
> one can still use the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that,
> its pointless attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as
> they impart a nasty hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical
> to analogue unit from that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you
> wiggle it you can get it silent till the next time. In the end I bought a
> wall wart for it, and problem solved. Brian

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 by: Davey - Sat, 7 May 2022 09:12 UTC

On Fri, 6 May 2022 13:17:03 +0100
williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

> On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
> > We have a Cello TV set,
>
> Aren't they rather dreadful?
>
> Bill

I certainly won't buy another one! You try and buy British, and wish
you hadn't. Of our various sets, mostly 2010 to 2015 vintage, none
of them 'Smart', thank goodness, the Samsung Freeview is the most
sensible to use. We had a Ferguson, but sent it back for a refund, it
was so bad.
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 by: R. Mark Clayton - Sat, 7 May 2022 09:22 UTC

On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 08:05:22 UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc and
> on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to the
> set and there seems no way to stop it. So one hadd to buy an interface for
> normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so one can still use
> the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that, its pointless
> attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as they impart a nasty
> hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical to analogue unit from
> that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you wiggle it you can get it
> silent till the next time.
> In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved.
> Brian
>

You have not set it up properly, on my PC in sound setting I get to choose which the default is: -

1. Either of two monitors which do have speakers by HDMI.
2. Headphones.
3. Sound bar - via audio cable.
4. AV amp in the lounge on a 10m optical cable.
and even
5. A telephone headset via Bluetooth.

Some programs let you assign differently - e.g. for Zoom I route the sound for that the the monitor where the camera is.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sun, 8 May 2022 07:33 UTC

Sad to hear that really. It really should not be that hard to make a decent
bog standard tv with large clear print menus and a voice. Blimey, I have
many clocks that can speak their menus which cost tiny amounts to make.
Rocket science it is not.
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> williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
>> > We have a Cello TV set,
>>
>> Aren't they rather dreadful?
>>
>> Bill
>
> I certainly won't buy another one! You try and buy British, and wish
> you hadn't. Of our various sets, mostly 2010 to 2015 vintage, none
> of them 'Smart', thank goodness, the Samsung Freeview is the most
> sensible to use. We had a Ferguson, but sent it back for a refund, it
> was so bad.
> --
> Davey.
>

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sun, 8 May 2022 07:40 UTC

No not the pc, well certainly not Win-doze. I set the default sound devices
so it is supposed to override anything that may get selected in the system,
and it still claims to be using it when its not. Very peculiar. Probably the
card hardware being designed as centre of the universe. You find that a lot
with equipment, so which device wins is anybody's guess.

Brian

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> In article <t555ng$tam$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
>> and on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to
>> the set and there seems no way to stop it.
>
> that's not an HDMI's problem. It's your PC deciding it knows best
>
>
>
>
>> So one hadd to buy an
>> interface for normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so
>> one can still use the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that,
>> its pointless attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as
>> they impart a nasty hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical
>> to analogue unit from that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you
>> wiggle it you can get it silent till the next time. In the end I bought a
>> wall wart for it, and problem solved. Brian
>
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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sun, 8 May 2022 07:45 UTC

Well I did all of that but it mad no difference, so I took the easy way out.
The only slight issue is with the hdmi connected all the time you get a
little burst of low level noise every second and a half, This also radiates
to any radio all over the short wave bands. If you are careful in routing
the hdmi cable you can almost remove it from the audio. Seems to emanate
inside the the Samsung tv, which is of course not screened and off the
cable which acts like an aerial.
Brian

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> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 08:05:22 UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
>> and
>> on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to the
>> set and there seems no way to stop it. So one hadd to buy an interface
>> for
>> normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so one can still
>> use
>> the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that, its pointless
>> attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as they impart a
>> nasty
>> hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical to analogue unit from
>> that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you wiggle it you can get it
>> silent till the next time.
>> In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved.
>> Brian
>>
>
> You have not set it up properly, on my PC in sound setting I get to choose
> which the default is: -
>
> 1. Either of two monitors which do have speakers by HDMI.
> 2. Headphones.
> 3. Sound bar - via audio cable.
> 4. AV amp in the lounge on a 10m optical cable.
> and even
> 5. A telephone headset via Bluetooth.
>
> Some programs let you assign differently - e.g. for Zoom I route the sound
> for that the the monitor where the camera is.

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 by: pinnerite - Wed, 11 May 2022 13:42 UTC

On Fri, 6 May 2022 09:20:29 +0100
Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just
> wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
> mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time
> when an update screwed some things up.
>
> --
>
> Jeff
>
> On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> > There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
> > to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
> > computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time
> > the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
> > wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
> > plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
> > no issues.
> > Brian
> >
>

I have a wide-screen Samsung TV. It is five or six years old. It runs
on Linux of course. I have never had a problem with it as such.

BUT, it hasn't supported ITV Hub for several years and although
recordings can be played from flash drives, it cannot record to them.
(Other models do). A software upgrade should solve both problems but
there hasn't been one. :(

Alan

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 by: Jeff Layman - Wed, 11 May 2022 16:01 UTC

On 11/05/2022 14:42, pinnerite wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 09:20:29 +0100
> Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just
>> wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
>> mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time
>> when an update screwed some things up.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>> There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
>>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
>>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time
>>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
>>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
>>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
>>> no issues.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>
> I have a wide-screen Samsung TV. It is five or six years old. It runs
> on Linux of course. I have never had a problem with it as such.
>
> BUT, it hasn't supported ITV Hub for several years and although
> recordings can be played from flash drives, it cannot record to them.
> (Other models do). A software upgrade should solve both problems but
> there hasn't been one. :(

Until Panasonic issued a fix, a couple of years ago none of the Freeview
Play apps worked. The other apps such as Netflix, YouTube, etc were ok.
The way round this until the software update fix was made available was
to do a factory reset. Obviously you'd lose all your personal settings,
but if you're willing to risk it you might get full functionality back.

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