Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.

SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have to
go. <fx: sob>

What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like to
stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
at the very least.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:00:43 +0000, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
>Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.

Move.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 27/08/2021 12:00, Cab wrote:
> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
> Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>
> SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have to
> go. <fx: sob>
>
> What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like to
> stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
> thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
> at the very least.
>

Don't forget to factor in the lights.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:00:43 +0000, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
>>Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>
> Move.

Exactly what I was thinking. Or, surrender to the inevitable and buy
an electric.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

>Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:00:43 +0000, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
>>>Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>>
>> Move.
>
>Exactly what I was thinking.

Then again, he lived there through the 100bhp limit days, so if he can
put up with that there's little hope for him reslly.

> Or, surrender to the inevitable and buy an electric.

Oh, steady on, old chap, let's not go overboard about this...

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Ace wibbled:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:00:43 +0000, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride
> > the Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>
> Move.

Heh, not an option. Most of my customers/partners/distis are in Paris
and I'll be damned if I have to take public transport.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

Ace wibbled:

> > Exactly what I was thinking.
>
> Then again, he lived there through the 100bhp limit days, so if he can
> put up with that there's little hope for him reslly.

Cheeky fscker. It never gets old, does it? :-)

> > Or, surrender to the inevitable and buy an electric.
>
> Oh, steady on, old chap, let's not go overboard about this...

Well, there's always that option. I could keep the CB as the long
tourer and an eleccy bike for Paris trips. I could <fx: shudder> go for
an electric scooter.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

YTC#1 wibbled:

> Don't forget to factor in the lights.

Yes, I've also decided I want a bike with lights. And those big,
rubbery things at the front and back that make the bike go forward.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

"Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:xn0n24so223xcmb000@www.rosbif.org:

> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
> Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>
> SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have to
> go. <fx: sob>
>
> What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like to
> stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
> thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
> at the very least.
>

how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for filtering.

The RT is a bulky behemoth that seems to bloat with every revision. The
R1200/1250RS is the best Boxer in my very partisan view.

I have both of the above and would always choose the RS for urban riding
due to its relatively narrow profile, low centre of gravity and lower mass
compared to most other boxers. The London SEG use them as they obviously
agree with me.

wessie wibbled:

> > What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd
> > like to stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I
> > was thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4
> > bike, at the very least.
> >
>
> how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for
> filtering.
>
> The RT is a bulky behemoth that seems to bloat with every revision.
> The R1200/1250RS is the best Boxer in my very partisan view.
>
> I have both of the above and would always choose the RS for urban
> riding due to its relatively narrow profile, low centre of gravity
> and lower mass compared to most other boxers. The London SEG use them
> as they obviously agree with me.

Funnily enough, I've not actually seen him ride it in yet. It looks
very clean in his garage though. I'll ask him when he gets back from
his Scottish trip.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

On 27/08/2021 13:43, Cab wrote:
> Ace wibbled:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:00:43 +0000, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride
>>> the Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>>
>> Move.
>
> Heh, not an option. Most of my customers/partners/distis are in Paris
> and I'll be damned if I have to take public transport.
>
Pleb transport

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 27/08/2021 13:45, Cab wrote:
> YTC#1 wibbled:
>
>> Don't forget to factor in the lights.
>
> Yes, I've also decided I want a bike with lights. And those big,
> rubbery things at the front and back that make the bike go forward.
>
<sigh> ref the BMW and DRL recent exchange .....
</s>

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTC#1 wibbled:

> On 27/08/2021 13:45, Cab wrote:
> > YTC#1 wibbled:
> >
> > > Don't forget to factor in the lights.
> >
> > Yes, I've also decided I want a bike with lights. And those big,
> > rubbery things at the front and back that make the bike go forward.
> >
> <sigh> ref the BMW and DRL recent exchange .....
> </s>

Heh, missed that one.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 13:58:20 UTC+1, wessie wrote:
> "Cab" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:xn0n24so2...@www.rosbif.org:
> > Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
> > Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
> >
> > SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have to
> > go. <fx: sob>
> >
> > What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like to
> > stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
> > thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
> > at the very least.
> >
> how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for filtering.
>
> The RT is a bulky behemoth that seems to bloat with every revision. The
> R1200/1250RS is the best Boxer in my very partisan view.

I don't agree. The R1200RT doesn't seem any wider than the R1100RT, it feels a
lot lighter and nimbler albeit a little taller.

Cab wrote:

> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
> Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>
> SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have
> to go. <fx: sob>
>
> What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like
> to stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
> thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
> at the very least.

<mode=recommend what you own>
Z900
</mode>

--
Chris

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 20:17:50 -0000 (UTC), "CT" <me@christrollen.co.uk>
wrote:

>Cab wrote:
>
>> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
>> Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>>
>> SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have
>> to go. <fx: sob>
>>
>> What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like
>> to stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
>> thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
>> at the very least.
>
><mode=recommend what you own>
>Z900
></mode>

Well, if we're going to play that game, Energica Eva.

--

-Pip

Pipl wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 20:17:50 -0000 (UTC), "CT" <me@christrollen.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > <mode=recommend what you own>
> > Z900
> > </mode>
>
> Well, if we're going to play that game, Energica Eva.

Game?! Isn't it just the UKRM way?

--
Chris

On 27/08/2021 20:45 Cab penned these words:
> Well, there's always that option. I could keep the CB as the long
> tourer and an eleccy bike for Paris trips. I could <fx: shudder> go for
> an electric scooter.

If I could charge the fucker and if once the appropriate dept reopens I can't
get the 110cc step thru back on the road I'd consider an electric for running about.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:xn0n24so223xcmb000@www.rosbif.org:
>
>> Well then. As I posted up there somewhere, I won't be able to ride the
>> Z nor CB in a big area of Paris from the end of 2022.
>>
>> SWMBO has said that I can buy a new bike, but obv, the CB and Z have to
>> go. <fx: sob>
>>
>> What recommendations does the font for a big sized machine? I'd like to
>> stick with something along the style of the CB, if I can. I was
>> thinking of a BMW (maybe the 1200RT?). It'll have to be a Euro4 bike,
>> at the very least.
>>
>
> how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for filtering.
>

This, in spades. I’m seriously thinking about something a bit slimmer for
that very reason.

On 28/08/2021 10:31, Higgins wrote:
> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>> how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for filtering.
>>
>
> This, in spades. I’m seriously thinking about something a bit slimmer for
> that very reason.
>

Anyone up for a bit of discussion about filtering?

What is currently taught for the theory test? Having passed my bike test
53 years ago I've missed out what's considered good, or acceptable,
practice now.

Back then it was never an issue but with much more traffic now I tend to
work my way to the front at temporary traffic lights and will filter
down the middle of two lanes with traffic lights on two lanes.

It's stop start traffic on motorways that I wonder about as, though I
generally avoid motorways and am seldom in a hurry, I cannot bring
myself to wait with the cars so I tend to filter between the two outer
lanes in 3rd gear at around 20-30mph. Once the lanes are all moving at
around 40mph I stick in lane.

>Anyone up for a bit of discussion about filtering?
>
>What is currently taught for the theory test?

Irrelevant. If you need guidance go for something like Motorcycle
Roadcraft.

>Back then it was never an issue but with much more traffic now I tend to
>work my way to the front at temporary traffic lights and will filter
>down the middle of two lanes with traffic lights on two lanes.

It's useful to distinguish between filtering and queue-jumping, the
latter being where you delay cars by your action.

>It's stop start traffic on motorways that I wonder about as, though I
>generally avoid motorways and am seldom in a hurry, I cannot bring
>myself to wait with the cars so I tend to filter between the two outer
>lanes in 3rd gear at around 20-30mph. Once the lanes are all moving at
>around 40mph I stick in lane.

Fine. Personally I do it at lower speeds and in a lower gear, but then
I usually have a pillion.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

AJH <news@loampitsfarm.co.uk> wrote in
news:iour0dFgcljU1@mid.individual.net:

> On 28/08/2021 10:31, Higgins wrote:
>> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>>> how is John finding the XR in Paris? Bars are quite wide for
>>> filtering.
>>>
>>
>> This, in spades. I’m seriously thinking about something a bit
>> slimmer for that very reason.
>>
>
> Anyone up for a bit of discussion about filtering?
>
> What is currently taught for the theory test? Having passed my bike
> test 53 years ago I've missed out what's considered good, or
> acceptable, practice now.
>

I don't think filtering is part of the theory or on road test

> Back then it was never an issue but with much more traffic now I tend
> to work my way to the front at temporary traffic lights and will
> filter down the middle of two lanes with traffic lights on two lanes.
>

check

> It's stop start traffic on motorways that I wonder about as, though I
> generally avoid motorways and am seldom in a hurry, I cannot bring
> myself to wait with the cars so I tend to filter between the two outer
> lanes in 3rd gear at around 20-30mph. Once the lanes are all moving at
> around 40mph I stick in lane.
>

pretty much what I do on the rare occasion I am in a queue on a
motorway. Typical places would be the M25 on the way to the tunnel or on
the M6 between the M5 junction and the Blackpool turn off.

Although, on the M25 there are often more than 3 lanes so just not
between 1 & 2 as these are the ones where people chop & change more.

Of course, this relative sanity goes out of the window when in France
where you just put your flashers on and filter at >100kph otherwise you
hold up the locals.

Colin Irvine wibbled:

> > It's stop start traffic on motorways that I wonder about as, though
> > I generally avoid motorways and am seldom in a hurry, I cannot
> > bring myself to wait with the cars so I tend to filter between the
> > two outer lanes in 3rd gear at around 20-30mph. Once the lanes are
> > all moving at around 40mph I stick in lane.
>
> Fine. Personally I do it at lower speeds and in a lower gear, but then
> I usually have a pillion.

Are cage drivers still shits when they see bikes filtering in the UK? I
still remember them actively trying to block bikes from getting past.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800

On 28/08/2021 18:11, Cab wrote:
> Colin Irvine wibbled:
>
>>> It's stop start traffic on motorways that I wonder about as, though
>>> I generally avoid motorways and am seldom in a hurry, I cannot
>>> bring myself to wait with the cars so I tend to filter between the
>>> two outer lanes in 3rd gear at around 20-30mph. Once the lanes are
>>> all moving at around 40mph I stick in lane.
>>
>> Fine. Personally I do it at lower speeds and in a lower gear, but then
>> I usually have a pillion.
>
> Are cage drivers still shits when they see bikes filtering in the UK? I
> still remember them actively trying to block bikes from getting past.
>
>

Not often on the regular commuter runs IME, but there were definitely a
few that would try to block you. The ones that scared me the most were
the ones that would swerve to give you more space, without thinking that
there might be someone filtering on the other side as well...

--
/Simon

siwilson wibbled:

> > Are cage drivers still shits when they see bikes filtering in the
> > UK? I still remember them actively trying to block bikes from
> > getting past.
> >
> >
>
> Not often on the regular commuter runs IME, but there were definitely
> a few that would try to block you. The ones that scared me the most
> were the ones that would swerve to give you more space, without
> thinking that there might be someone filtering on the other side as
> well...

TBF, they shouldn't be filtering on the other side.

--
Cab
Z1000 and CB1300 and VeloSolex 3800