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* why are naval ships named after aboriginal tribes!Nomen Nescio
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 by: Nomen Nescio - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 02:08 UTC

The RAN was woke decades before it was trendy!
Because they are closet willy wooftahs!

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 02:21 UTC

They aren't.

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

> The RAN was woke decades before it was trendy!

More ignorant bullshit. Most were in fact named
after citys and towns way back then and still are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Royal_Australian_Navy_ships

> Because they are closet willy wooftahs!

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 02:28 UTC

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

> They aren't.

In fact only 2 are.

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>> The RAN was woke decades before it was trendy!

> More ignorant bullshit. Most were in fact named
> after citys and towns way back then and still are.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Royal_Australian_Navy_ships

>> Because they are closet willy wooftahs!

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 by: WhataWonderfulWorld - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 06:40 UTC

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:op.2mrig1pfbyq249
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> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
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>> They aren't.
>
> In fact only 2 are.
>
>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
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>>> The RAN was woke decades before it was trendy!
>
>> More ignorant bullshit. Most were in fact named
>> after citys and towns way back then and still are.
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Royal_Australian_Navy_ships
>
>>> Because they are closet willy wooftahs!

I only know of 2 that have aboriginal type names, The Arunta and the
Warramunga (sp)
What other ones are named this way ?

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:14 UTC

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 06:40:16 GMT, WhataWonderfulWorld
<thunnusalbacares@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I only know of 2 that have aboriginal type names, The Arunta and the
>Warramunga (sp)
>What other ones are named this way ?
>
Mark Latham MLC
Aboriginal Languages
In NSW hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent on this
ambition through government grants and the establishment of Indigenous
language trusts and so-called hubs. Schools have also been roped into
this woke agenda.
In October 2022 the then National Party Education Minister, Sarah
Mitchell, announced a new specialist Aboriginal Languages syllabus, to
be operational in 2024. Naturally, there was great excitement in the
Left-media about this, with the Sydney Morning Herald declaring, "Most
schools would offer the language that was Indigenous to their local
area."
How is this goal measuring up? From the answers to parliamentary
Questions on Notice provided to me last month by the NSW Education
Minister Prue Car, one would have to say: Terribly.
Just six government high schools have enrolments in elective
Aboriginal Language courses - that's one in every 67 secondary
schools. Only 57 students are studying these courses, or 0.02 percent
of the total NSW enrolment. Minister Car refused to answer my question
as to which primary schools are teaching Indigenous languages. Most
likely, none.
Who's teaching this subject and how are they mastering it, given there
are hundreds of Aboriginal languages across tribes and dialects? The
Minister answered, "There are 12 teachers in NSW public schools with
specific qualifications in Aboriginal
languages ... The syllabus uses a framework approach that accommodates
the range of languages." Whatever that might mean: presumably the
most general of Aboriginal words are taught, rather than individual
languages and dialects in detail. The 12 qualified teachers represent
just one for every 184 government schools in the State.
At the time of the Masters Curriculum Review in NSW, the Berejiklian
Government mocked niche elective courses like puppetry and 'wearable
art'. Clearly, though, this is what they have established with
Aboriginal Languages and its embarrassing 0.02 percent takeup rate.
For the money being outlaid, it hardly seems worthwhile.
The main challenge for Indigenous schools in Western NSW is to get the
students to actually attend and then to learn the basics of English,
maths and science. There are not many jobs or businesses relying on
Aboriginal language skills.
The data suggests it is incredibly difficult to revive Indigenous
languages in any meaningful way. Across Australia, from approximately
300 separate Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander languages, only
about a dozen have survived to the point where parents still teach
them to their children. Only nine of those have more than 1,000
speakers (as reported by Jordan Baker, SMH, 6 November 2023).
Even though there are 70,865 Aboriginal students enrolled in NSW
government schools, only 2017 (or 2.8 percent) come from homes with
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander language backgrounds. This
highlights how badly Aboriginal language skills have declined, but
also how, in practical terms, a large majority of Indigenous families
have moved onto English as their first language at home.
It seems ridiculous, given the crushing level of Aboriginal school
truancy in NSW, that both the Liberal-Nationals and now Labor in
government have made Aboriginal languages a priority. At Walgett's
high school, for example, just 3 percent of Indigenous students attend
for nine days or more a fortnight (the minimum threshold for receiving
a decent education). In her four years as Education Minister Sarah
Mitchell had no success in lifting Aboriginal attendance rates.
Language courses are pointless if these children do not go to school.
As with Aboriginal place names, the NSW languages policy is a form of
virtue signaling, although a much more expensive one. It may make the
woke elites of inner-Sydney, the NSW Education Department and Teachers
Federation warm inside to say they are reviving Indigenous languages
but the evidence shows it's a tiny, tiny part of the Aboriginal
education experience in our State. It simply hasn't got the trained
teachers and student commitment needed to make it a success.
It's yet another distraction from the genuinely important task of
giving young Aborigines a good education and lifting them out of the
poverty cycle.
--
Petzl
Jesus “taught with authority” (Matthew 7:29), and the risen Lord gave
his Apostles a share in his authority when he commissioned them to
make disciples from all the nations by teaching what he had commanded
them (Matthew 28:18–20).

Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."


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