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Re: euthanasia laws

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Max wrote:
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>
> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated city
> >> to emigrate to.
>

** Most get no choice of city to land at - but once here can move about.

Lots of poms wind up in Perth, Greeks in Melbourne, Italians, Maltese and Lebs in Sydney
The only clear pattern is they head for where their countrymen are congregated.

Sydney now has lots of Chinese, Indians and other Asians.
Oh and heaps of bloody NZrs.

In school in the 60s in Melbourne, my class had 5 Ukranian kids.
Names like Zenko and Oxana.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 05:17 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote

>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>
>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>
>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>
>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>> >
>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>> >
>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of the
>>> >>> basic
>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>> >
>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>> >
>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>
>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>
>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>
>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>
>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>
>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually deviant,
>>
>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>
>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>
>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>
>>> which I believe it is.
>>
>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were barking
>> mad.
>>
>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative, which
>>> >> it is,
>>> >
>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>> >
>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>> >
>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>> >
>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>> > parliament about it.
>>> >
>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>> >
>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those in
>>> > Melburg.
>>> >
>>>
>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say Perth or
>>> Brisbane.
>>
>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>
>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated cities
>>> are.
>>
>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.

> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?

Because there are more of those who came from where
they are coming from where they are migrating to.

We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
than where they were coming from.

We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast too.

> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted, crime-ridden
> cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne, instead of Perth,
> Adelaide or Brisbane?

See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.

>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or some
>>> smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>
>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>
>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>
>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated
>>> >> city
>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>> >
>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>
>

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Rodbot Ex-Speed Cop Rabid Nut Case wrote:
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> > >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
> > >
> > >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of the basic
> > >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>
> > In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted

> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.

** Sure - just like regular marriage has no link boy/girl couples pairing up.
None at all......

> > because they are against the biological order.
> So is suicide. So what ?

** Promoting or aiding a suicide is a serious crime - arsehole.

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s31c.html

> > and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
> > psychiatric disorder,

** Classed as a " sexual perversion " not easily cured.

> Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were barking mad.

** No, but you are.

..... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 09:24 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.

>>>>>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one
>>>>>> of the basic laws of society, with unforseen consequences.

>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted

>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.

> Sure - just like regular marriage has no link boy/girl couples pairing
> up.
> None at all......

Nothing to do with PROMOTING, fuckwit.

>>> because they are against the biological order.

>> So is suicide. So what ?

> Promoting or aiding a suicide is a serious crime

Irrelevant to its stupid claim about "against the biological order",
fuckwit.

> http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s31c.html

>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans
>>> was regarded as a psychiatric disorder,

> Classed as a " sexual perversion " not easily cured.

More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

>> Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were barking mad.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 09:54 UTC

Rod Speed Is Mentally Retarded
=========================
>
> >>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>
> >> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>
> > Sure - just like regular marriage has no link boy/girl couples pairing
> > up. None at all......
>
> Nothing to do with PROMOTING, fuckwit.

** LOL no fucking absurd idea is beyond the Rodbot.

> >>> because they are against the biological order.
> >> So is suicide. So what ?
>>
> > Promoting or aiding a suicide is a serious crime
>
> Irrelevant to its stupid claim about "against the biological order",

** But very relevant to the promoting suicide analogy.

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s31c.html

10 years in jail for that bonkers idea.

> >>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans
> >>> was regarded as a psychiatric disorder,
>>
> > Classed as a " sexual perversion " not easily cured.
>
> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
** So Rod knows how to cure homosexuality ??

Oh yeah - he knows police solution:
Put them all in jail together ...
That will fix it.

....... Phil

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 by: Max - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 01:10 UTC

On 22/09/2021 3:17 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>   Max wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>
>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>
>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>
>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>   for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Wrong -   any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of the
>>>> >>> basic
>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>> >
>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>> >
>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>
>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>
>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>
>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>
>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>
>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually deviant,
>>>
>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>
>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>
>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>
>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>
>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>> barking mad.
>>>
>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>> which
>>>> >> it is,
>>>> >
>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>> >
>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>> >
>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>> >
>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>> >
>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>> >
>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those in
>>>> > Melburg.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say Perth
>>>> or Brisbane.
>>>
>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>
>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>> cities are.
>>>
>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>
>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>
> Because there are more of those who came from where
> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>
> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
> than where they were coming from.
>
> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast too.
>
>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>
> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>
>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>
>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>
>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>
>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated
>>>> >> city
>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>> >
>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>
>>

It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
"world" cities.

The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes, made
worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy,
socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to travel
to work.

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 by: Max - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 01:11 UTC

On 22/09/2021 2:44 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
> ============
>>
>>>> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated city
>>>> to emigrate to.
>>
>
> ** Most get no choice of city to land at - but once here can move about.
>
> Lots of poms wind up in Perth, Greeks in Melbourne, Italians, Maltese and Lebs in Sydney
> The only clear pattern is they head for where their countrymen are congregated.
>
> Sydney now has lots of Chinese, Indians and other Asians.
> Oh and heaps of bloody NZrs.
>
> In school in the 60s in Melbourne, my class had 5 Ukranian kids.
> Names like Zenko and Oxana.
>

It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
"world" cities.

The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes, made
worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy,
socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to travel
to work.

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 02:01 UTC

On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 11:11:12 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>On 22/09/2021 2:44 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Max wrote:
>> ============
>>>
>>>>> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated city
>>>>> to emigrate to.
>>>
>>
>> ** Most get no choice of city to land at - but once here can move about.
>>
>> Lots of poms wind up in Perth, Greeks in Melbourne, Italians, Maltese and Lebs in Sydney
>> The only clear pattern is they head for where their countrymen are congregated.
>>
>> Sydney now has lots of Chinese, Indians and other Asians.
>> Oh and heaps of bloody NZrs.
>>
>> In school in the 60s in Melbourne, my class had 5 Ukranian kids.
>> Names like Zenko and Oxana.
>>
>
>It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
>and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
>"world" cities.
>
>The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes, made
>worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy,
>socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to travel
>to work.

The biggest mistake was and is Moslem immigration.
They are stacked in Southwest Sydney, never integrate or speak
Australian English, only Arabic.

They hate everything about you and our heritage, and there's a good
chance they will try to kill you!

Get rid of the bogus term multicultural, we are multiracial only Islam
needs banning.

If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian Nation with
Christian norms.
The things we do, the way our political parties behave, Christian
laws, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian
ideals.
--
Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 03:35 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of the
>>>>> >>> basic
>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>
>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>
>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>
>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>
>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>
>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually deviant,
>>>>
>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>
>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>
>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>
>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>
>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were barking
>>>> mad.
>>>>
>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>> which
>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those in
>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say Perth
>>>>> or Brisbane.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>
>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated cities
>>>>> are.
>>>>
>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>
>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>
>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>
>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>> than where they were coming from.
>>
>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast too.
>>
>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted, crime-ridden
>>> cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne, instead of
>>> Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>
>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>
>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or some
>>>>> smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>
>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>
>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>
>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most populated
>>>>> >> city
>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.

> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
> and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
> "world" cities.

But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
there are already lots of their own, particularly given
the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.

That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
and one of them moved into their brand new house built
for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
brand new house about half built now. Total price for
house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.

> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,

But have lots of job opportunitys. And
even you went to sydney for that reason.

So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.

They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
decent unit there.

> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy, >
> socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to travel to
> work.

But with far more jobs to choose from.

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 by: Mountain Magpie - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 04:38 UTC

On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:01:15 +1000, Petzl posted:-

> The biggest mistake was and is Moslem immigration.
> They are stacked in Southwest Sydney, never integrate or speak
> Australian English, only Arabic.
>
> They hate everything about you and our heritage, and there's a good
> chance they will try to kill you!
>
> Get rid of the bogus term multicultural, we are multiracial only Islam
> needs banning.
>
> If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian Nation with
> Christian norms.
> The things we do, the way our political parties behave, Christian
> laws, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian
> ideals.

All true.

We have to thank Paul "The Poof" Keating for allowing the low quality
Muslims in, against the advise of ASIO, particularly in the case of
that scum Sheik Hilaly.

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:15 UTC

On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 04:38:15 -0000, Mountain Magpie
<Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:01:15 +1000, Petzl posted:-
>
>> The biggest mistake was and is Moslem immigration.
>> They are stacked in Southwest Sydney, never integrate or speak
>> Australian English, only Arabic.
>>
>> They hate everything about you and our heritage, and there's a good
>> chance they will try to kill you!
>>
>> Get rid of the bogus term multicultural, we are multiracial only Islam
>> needs banning.
>>
>> If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian Nation with
>> Christian norms.
>> The things we do, the way our political parties behave, Christian
>> laws, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian
>> ideals.
>
>
>All true.
>
>We have to thank Paul "The Poof" Keating for allowing the low quality
>Muslims in, against the advise of ASIO, particularly in the case of
>that scum Sheik Hilaly.
>
Thank you
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

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 by: Max - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 02:34 UTC

On 24/09/2021 1:35 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>   Max wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>   for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>> Wrong -   any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>
>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>
>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>
>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually deviant,
>>>>>
>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those in
>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>
>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>
>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>
>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>
>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>> too.
>>>
>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>
>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>
>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>
>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>> and more "world" cities.
>
> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>
> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>
>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>
> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>

Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place I
work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.

The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
people who have grown up there because that is all they know.

> So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
> a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
> paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
> over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
> even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.
>
> They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
> decent unit there.
>
>> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more
>> busy, > socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people
>> to travel to work.
>
> But with far more jobs to choose from.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 04:10 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those
>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say Perth
>>>>>>> or Brisbane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>
>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>
>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>
>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>
>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>
>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>
>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
>>> and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
>>> "world" cities.
>>
>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>
>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.

Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
come from quite small towns where they came from. But
that might well be because the prospects for those in those
small towns is so fucked.

>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,

>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>> even you went to sydney for that reason.

> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place I
> work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.

That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.

> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
> people who have grown up there because that is all they know.

That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.

>> So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
>> a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
>> paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
>> over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
>> even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.
>>
>> They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
>> decent unit there.
>>
>>> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy,
>>> > socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to
>>> travel to work.
>>
>> But with far more jobs to choose from.
>


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 by: Max - Sun, 26 Sep 2021 00:31 UTC

On 25/09/2021 2:10 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>   Max wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>>>   for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong -   any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>
>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>
>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north
>>>>> coast too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and
>>>>>> Melbourne, instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>
>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow
>>>>>>>> or some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>
>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>>>> and more "world" cities.
>>>
>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>
>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>
> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
> small towns is so fucked.
>

Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.

>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>
>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>
>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that.  I only did that because the place
>> I work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.
>
> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>


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Max wrote:
=========
>
> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
> doesn't?
>
** Large ethnic communities ?

> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.

** But the later have far more of everything.

Perth is so isolated from the rest of Australia it might as well be a different country.
Brisbane is full of horrible Queenlanders and has appalling summer weather.
Spent 6 days there in January and could not leave soon enough.
Adelaide has only 1/3 the pop of the two major capitols and is also isolated by distance.

Melb and Sydney have a very different *ambience* to the others.
Someone as completely brainless as you would not even notice it.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:41 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage
>>>>>>>>> >> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything
>>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>>>>> and more "world" cities.
>>>>
>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>
>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.


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On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 14:41:59 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage
>>>>>>>>>> >> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything
>>>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>>>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>>>>>> and more "world" cities.
>>>>>
>>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>
>>> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
>>> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
>>> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
>>> small towns is so fucked.
>
>> Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
>> metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.
>
>I was talking about the towns that those immigrants have come from.
>
>>>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>
>>>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place I
>>>> work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.
>>>
>>> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>
>> Due to my health issues my parents have committed to financially support
>> me for the rest of my life, including providing a place to live, so I
>> don't need to take any particular job.
>
>That was a comment about "the place I work for has trouble getting people"
>
>> The place I work at, I have worked there before, and they have difficulty
>> getting people with my amount of experience, so I offered my services to
>> them.
>
>> It is a very low pressure job so it is suitable for me in my
>> circumstances. It is a unique situation and generally people do not need
>> to move from WA to Sydney in my field.
>
>> There is nothing wrong with the job stituation in WA.
>
>That’s what I was saying too.
>
>> If you do a normal job, such as doctor, accountant, teacher, tradesmen,
>> etc, you would have no reason to leave WA.
>
>Ditto.
>
>> Only in some unique fields such as media would someone have any pressing
>> need to be in Melbourne and Sydney instead of the smaller capital cities.
>
>>>> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
>>>> people who have grown up there because that is all they know.
>
>>> That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
>>> offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.
>
>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>> doesn't?
>
>A magnificent harbor in the case of sydney, huge numbers of poofters too.
>
>Most of the majors have their corporate HQs in Sydney or Melburg.
>
>Lots more industry in those two too. Lots more burbs
>of your own countrymen too except for poms.
>
>> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
>> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
>> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.
>
>That’s bullshit with the harbour and poofters.
>
>> I can understand someone from a non-captial city wanting to go to a
>> capital city, but generally there is no reason to be in Sydney and
>> Melbourne rather than the smaller capital cities.
>
>That’s bullshit with plenty of jobs.
>
>> In my opinion, Melbourne and Sydney are worse than the smaller capital
>> cities because of the social fragmenation caused by immigration and ethnic
>> segregation.
>
>Sure, but that’s what plenty of migrants want.
>
>> Syd and Melb are busier, have more traffic, more polluted, more expensive,
>> more densely populated, and people have to travel longer distances to go
>> to work.
>
>Yes, but plenty choose to live there anyway.
>
>> The general standard of the smaller capital cities is better too.
>
>That’s very arguable indeed.
>
>> Sydney and Melbourne just generally look shittier because they are so big
>> and there is less money to go around.
>
>More bullshit.
>
>>>>> So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
>>>>> a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
>>>>> paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
>>>>> over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
>>>>> even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
>>>>> decent unit there.
>>>>>
>>>>>> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more
>>>>>> busy, > socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people
>>>>>> to travel to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> But with far more jobs to choose from.
>
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 by: Max - Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:39 UTC

On 26/09/2021 11:20 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
> =========
>>
>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>> doesn't?
>>
> ** Large ethnic communities ?
>

Yes, and how does that benefit anyone except for ethnic people?

>
>> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
>> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
>> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.
>
> ** But the later have far more of everything.
>

Such as what?

> Perth is so isolated from the rest of Australia it might as well be a different country.
> Brisbane is full of horrible Queenlanders

You mean like normal Australians?

and has appalling summer weather.
> Spent 6 days there in January and could not leave soon enough.
> Adelaide has only 1/3 the pop of the two major capitols and is also isolated by distance.
>

Why does a higher population make a city better? As long as a city is a
captial city it's got everything you need. Look how many people like
Hobart.

> Melb and Sydney have a very different *ambience* to the others.
> Someone as completely brainless as you would not even notice it.
>

The 'ambience' is due to dense population and lots of ethnicities. It's
a surface feature which over time does not benefit a normal Australian.

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 by: Max - Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:54 UTC

On 26/09/2021 2:41 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Max wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong -   any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as
>>>>>>>>>> a psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially
>>>>>>>>>> conservative,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage >>
>>>>>>>>>> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do
>>>>>>>>>> anything > in
>>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most
>>>>>>>>>> populated cities are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of
>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north
>>>>>>> coast too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and
>>>>>>>> Melbourne, instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow
>>>>>>>>>> or some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more
>>>>>> multicultural and more "world" cities.
>>>>>
>>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>
>>> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
>>> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
>>> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
>>> small towns is so fucked.
>
>> Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
>> metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.
>
> I was talking about the towns that those immigrants have come from.
>
>>>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>
>>>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that.  I only did that because the
>>>> place I work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my
>>>> services.
>>>
>>> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>
>> Due to my health issues my parents have committed to financially
>> support me for the rest of my life, including providing a place to
>> live, so I don't need to take any particular job.
>
> That was a comment about "the place I work for has trouble getting people"
>
>> The place I work at, I have worked there before, and they have
>> difficulty getting people with my amount of experience, so I offered
>> my services to them.
>
>> It is a very low pressure job so it is suitable for me in my
>> circumstances.  It is a unique situation and generally people do not
>> need to move from WA to Sydney in my field.
>
>> There is nothing wrong with the job stituation in WA.
>
> That’s what I was saying too.
>
>> If you do a normal job, such as doctor, accountant, teacher,
>> tradesmen, etc, you would have no reason to leave WA.
>
> Ditto.
>
>> Only in some unique fields such as media would someone have any
>> pressing need to be in Melbourne and Sydney instead of the smaller
>> capital cities.
>
>>>> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne
>>>> are people who have grown up there because that is all they know.
>
>>> That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
>>> offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.
>
>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>> doesn't?
>
> A magnificent harbor in the case of sydney, huge numbers of poofters too.
>


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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 27 Sep 2021 00:48 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote

>>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>>> doesn't?

>> Large ethnic communities ?

> Yes, and how does that benefit anyone except for ethnic people?

Lot more variety of food available for starters.

Not just food either, some like their various festivals etc.

>>> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
>>> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
>>> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.

>> But the later have far more of everything.

> Such as what?

Everything, industry, jobs, house prices, ethnics,
harbor's, riots, crime, corruption etc etc etc.

>> Perth is so isolated from the rest of Australia it might as well be a
>> different country.Brisbane is full of horrible Queenlanders

> You mean like normal Australians?

>> and has appalling summer weather.

Darwin is much worse.

>> Spent 6 days there in January and could not leave soon enough.
>> Adelaide has only 1/3 the pop of the two major capitols and is also
>> isolated by distance.

And is infested with poms.

> Why does a higher population make a city better?

Far more of everything.

> As long as a city is a captial city it's got everything you need.

None ever do..

> Look how many people like Hobart.

Only the stupid. Darwin in spades.

>> Melb and Sydney have a very different *ambience* to the others.
>> Someone as completely brainless as you would not even notice it.

> The 'ambience' is due to dense population and lots of ethnicities.

Its about a hell of a lot more than just that, most obviously with the
harbor in sydney.

> It's a surface feature which over time does not benefit a normal
> Australian.

More mindless bullshit with the harbor in sydney and ethnic food and
festivals.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 27 Sep 2021 01:05 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex
>>>>>>>>>> relationships.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially
>>>>>>>>>>> conservative,
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage >>
>>>>>>>>>>> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything > in
>>>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sydney.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of
>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here
>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north
>>>>>>>> coast too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and
>>>>>>>>> Melbourne, instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow
>>>>>>>>>>> or some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>>>>>>> and more "world" cities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>>
>>>> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
>>>> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
>>>> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
>>>> small towns is so fucked.
>>
>>> Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
>>> metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.
>>
>> I was talking about the towns that those immigrants have come from.
>>
>>>>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>>
>>>>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>>>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place
>>>>> I work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my
>>>>> services.
>>>>
>>>> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>>
>>> Due to my health issues my parents have committed to financially support
>>> me for the rest of my life, including providing a place to live, so I
>>> don't need to take any particular job.
>>
>> That was a comment about "the place I work for has trouble getting
>> people"
>>
>>> The place I work at, I have worked there before, and they have
>>> difficulty getting people with my amount of experience, so I offered my
>>> services to them.
>>
>>> It is a very low pressure job so it is suitable for me in my
>>> circumstances. It is a unique situation and generally people do not
>>> need to move from WA to Sydney in my field.
>>
>>> There is nothing wrong with the job stituation in WA.
>>
>> That’s what I was saying too.
>>
>>> If you do a normal job, such as doctor, accountant, teacher, tradesmen,
>>> etc, you would have no reason to leave WA.
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>> Only in some unique fields such as media would someone have any pressing
>>> need to be in Melbourne and Sydney instead of the smaller capital
>>> cities.
>>
>>>>> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
>>>>> people who have grown up there because that is all they know.
>>
>>>> That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
>>>> offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.
>>
>>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>>> doesn't?
>>
>> A magnificent harbor in the case of sydney, huge numbers of poofters too.


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Mas the PITATroll
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>>>
> >> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
> >> doesn't?
> >>
> > ** Large ethnic communities ?
> >
> Yes, and how does that benefit anyone except for ethnic people?

** You asked that exact question - fuckhead,

> > >> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
> >> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
> >> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.
> >
> > ** But the later have far more of everything.
> >
> Such as what?

** The word "everything" is very simple.

> > Perth is so isolated from the rest of Australia it might as well be a different country.
> > Brisbane is full of horrible Queenlanders
>
> You mean like normal Australians?

** Qldrs are not normal anything.
Most of them are borderline retards.
" Cross the border and go back in time 40 years "
Crazy legal system, not like other states.

> Why does a higher population make a city better?

** More activities, more options, more people like oneself to meet.

> > Melb and Sydney have a very different *ambience* to the others.
> > Someone as completely brainless as you would not even notice it.
> >
> The 'ambience' is due to dense population and lots of ethnicities.

** Like I said - you don't have the nearly the IQ needed to see it.

....... Phil

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Phil Allison wrote:
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> " Cross the border and go back in time 40 years "

** Should be :

" Cross the border and go back one hour and 40 years ".
Very popular and true 1970s comment on Qld.

When this corrupt retard ran the whole show single handed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen

" Now don't you worry about that .... Joh. "

....... Phil

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On 27/09/2021 4:14 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Phil Allison wrote:
> ==============
>>
>> " Cross the border and go back in time 40 years "
>
> ** Should be :
>
> " Cross the border and go back one hour and 40 years ".
> Very popular and true 1970s comment on Qld.
>

Shame that Qld is more progressive than NSW with euthanasia and same sex
marrage.

> When this corrupt retard ran the whole show single handed:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen
>
> " Now don't you worry about that .... Joh."
>
>
> ...... Phil
>

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On 27/09/2021 11:05 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong -   any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex
>>>>>>>>>>> relationships.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks
>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks
>>>>>>>>>>> were barking mad.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially
>>>>>>>>>>>> conservative,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything > in
>>>>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than
>>>>>>>>>>>> say Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most
>>>>>>>>>>>> populated cities are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners
>>>>>>>>> of war
>>>>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay
>>>>>>>>> here once
>>>>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians
>>>>>>>>> chose to
>>>>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason
>>>>>>>>> for why
>>>>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north
>>>>>>>>> coast too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and
>>>>>>>>>> Melbourne, instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moscow or some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants
>>>>>>>> that Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more
>>>>>>>> multicultural and more "world" cities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>>>
>>>>> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
>>>>> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
>>>>> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
>>>>> small towns is so fucked.
>>>
>>>> Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
>>>> metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.
>>>
>>> I was talking about the towns that those immigrants have come from.
>>>
>>>>>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>>>
>>>>>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>>>>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that.  I only did that because the
>>>>>> place I work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer
>>>>>> my services.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>>>
>>>> Due to my health issues my parents have committed to financially
>>>> support me for the rest of my life, including providing a place to
>>>> live, so I don't need to take any particular job.
>>>
>>> That was a comment about "the place I work for has trouble getting
>>> people"
>>>
>>>> The place I work at, I have worked there before, and they have
>>>> difficulty getting people with my amount of experience, so I offered
>>>> my services to them.
>>>
>>>> It is a very low pressure job so it is suitable for me in my
>>>> circumstances.  It is a unique situation and generally people do not
>>>> need to move from WA to Sydney in my field.
>>>
>>>> There is nothing wrong with the job stituation in WA.
>>>
>>> That’s what I was saying too.
>>>
>>>> If you do a normal job, such as doctor, accountant, teacher,
>>>> tradesmen, etc, you would have no reason to leave WA.
>>>
>>> Ditto.
>>>
>>>> Only in some unique fields such as media would someone have any
>>>> pressing need to be in Melbourne and Sydney instead of the smaller
>>>> capital cities.
>>>
>>>>>> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne
>>>>>> are people who have grown up there because that is all they know.
>>>
>>>>> That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
>>>>> offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.
>>>
>>>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and
>>>> Brisbane doesn't?
>>>
>>> A magnificent harbor in the case of sydney, huge numbers of poofters
>>> too.
>
>> Who cares about the harbour?
>
> Anyone who isn't a complete fucking moron.
>
>> You see it a few times in your life and that's enough.
>
> I saw it daily when I was living there and a few times
> is nothing like enough.


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