I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
not much left for Windows on Usenet.

Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.

I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the menu
bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.

Her details say she studied computer science...

PS I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu although
that leaves you working blind.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

Jeff Gaines wrote:

> I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu

You mean alt + space ?

On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

> Her details say she studied computer science...

When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
be taught. In general.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
If you mean 'am I serious about what I do', the answer is yes.
If you mean 'am I serious about how I do it', the answer is no.

On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
> not much left for Windows on Usenet.
>
> Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
> with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.
>
> I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
> menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.
>
> Her details say she studied computer science...
>
> PS  I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu although
> that leaves you working blind.
>

Some time ago I bought a Yamaha stage piano from a girl in London who
"didn't need it any more as she had finished her music degree"

Before we packed it up in the box she played it for a (mercifully) brief
period, just to prove the point :-\

--
random signature text inserted here

Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
> Her details say she studied computer science...

In answer to your subject, I guess she would be one of the qualified
ones! :o

Best regards,

Ian

On 30/05/2023 in message <kdlusmF8gagU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
wrote:

>Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>>I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu
>
>You mean alt + space ?

Whoops, yes, I got it right on FB, just checked :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday.
(Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:54:12 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

> On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Her details say she studied computer science...
>
> When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
> wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
> academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
> which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
> be taught. In general.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

Nothing changes.

In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial
programming.
Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re-
educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever
abstract device their lecturer was fond of.

Bitter?
Moi?

Cheers

Dave R

--
AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64

On 31 May 2023 at 15:14:49 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:54:12 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>
>> On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Her details say she studied computer science...
>>
>> When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
>> wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
>> academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
>> which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
>> be taught. In general.
>>
>> Cheers - Jaimie
>
> Nothing changes.
>
> In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial
> programming.
> Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re-
> educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
> smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever
> abstract device their lecturer was fond of.
>
> Bitter?
> Moi?
>

Yes, that sounds *very* familiar!

Cheers - Jaimie
--
I am always a bit unhappy when I spot a bit of text that
made perfect sense in my brain but on passing through
my fingers turned into a word salad suggesting that
someone had jammed an ice pick into my head and
stirred while I was typing. -- James Nicoll

On 2023-05-30, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Her details say she studied computer science...
>
> When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
> wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
> academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
> which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
> be taught. In general.
>
As Mark Twain once said. When I was 20 my old man knew nothing, but over
the next 20 years he learn't a great deal.

On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
> not much left for Windows on Usenet.
>
> Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
> with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.
>
> I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
> menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.
>
> Her details say she studied computer science...
>

Here ya go...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computer_Driving_Licence

--
Adrian C

On 01/06/2023 in message <kdrg6mF3ubsU1@mid.individual.net> Adrian
Caspersz wrote:

>On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
>>not much left for Windows on Usenet.
>>
>>Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
>>with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.
>>
>>I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
>>menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.
>>
>>Her details say she studied computer science...
>>
>
>Here ya go...
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computer_Driving_Licence

Oh wow, I thought that was a joke at first :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

On 31/05/2023 15:14, David wrote:
> Nothing changes.
>
> In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial
> programming.
> Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re-
> educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
> smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever
> abstract device their lecturer was fond of.
>
> Bitter?
> Moi?
>
At the end of the 70s I started my career in software. I was a typical
graduate recruit - I'd messed up my degree by playing with the computer
too much ;)

Andy