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* 2005-era softwareBagelAngel
+* Re: 2005-era softwareNikolaj Lazic
|`* Re: 2005-era softwareBagelAngel
| `* Re: 2005-era softwareFolderol
|  `* Re: 2005-era softwareNikolaj Lazic
|   +* Re: 2005-era softwareNikolaj Lazic
|   |`- Re: 2005-era softwareNikolaj Lazic
|   `* Re: 2005-era softwarePaul Stewart
|    `* Re: 2005-era softwareNikolaj Lazic
|     `- Re: 2005-era softwareFolderol
+- Re: 2005-era softwareIan Jackson
`- Re: 2005-era softwareJohn Hall

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From: jamesbuc...@googlemail.com (BagelAngel)
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Subject: 2005-era software
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 by: BagelAngel - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47 UTC

I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came out.
Thanks!

-J

Re: 2005-era software

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From: nlazicBE...@mudrac.ffzg.hr (Nikolaj Lazic)
Newsgroups: uk.comp.vintage
Subject: Re: 2005-era software
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:01:49 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Nikolaj Lazic - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:01 UTC

Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came out.
> Thanks!
>
> -J
>
>

Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
I have. It still works.

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 by: BagelAngel - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20 UTC

That's a great idea, thank you!
"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>> out.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -J
>>
>>
>
> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
> I have. It still works.

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 by: Folderol - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31 UTC

On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
"BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:

>That's a great idea, thank you!
>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>> out.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -J
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>> I have. It still works.

To paraphrase a certain advertisement...
Linux, the OS that reaches the computers other OS's can't :)

Seriously; always great to hear about old kit being kept alive.

--
Basic

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From: nlazicBE...@mudrac.ffzg.hr (Nikolaj Lazic)
Newsgroups: uk.comp.vintage
Subject: Re: 2005-era software
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:05:12 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Nikolaj Lazic - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:05 UTC

Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31:55 +0000, Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> napis'o:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
> "BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>That's a great idea, thank you!
>>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>>> out.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>>> I have. It still works.

I've checked... I've got this one inside:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html

And SSD drive on it. I think it is 256G or 512G...
It is slow, but works.
Yes, 32 bit linux but works.
All the fresh software. :)

> To paraphrase a certain advertisement...
> Linux, the OS that reaches the computers other OS's can't :)

True!

Just download debian live and try it on that machine.
I think I placed it on USB flash drive and booted from it.
Then installed it on the internal SSD.

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Subject: Re: 2005-era software
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 by: Nikolaj Lazic - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:06 UTC

Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:05:12 -0000 (UTC), Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> napis'o:
> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31:55 +0000, Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> napis'o:
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
>> "BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>That's a great idea, thank you!
>>>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>>>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>>>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>>>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>>>> out.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> -J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>>>> I have. It still works.
>
> I've checked... I've got this one inside:
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html
>
> And SSD drive on it. I think it is 256G or 512G...
> It is slow, but works.
> Yes, 32 bit linux but works.
> All the fresh software. :)
>
>> To paraphrase a certain advertisement...
>> Linux, the OS that reaches the computers other OS's can't :)
>
> True!
>
> Just download debian live and try it on that machine.
> I think I placed it on USB flash drive and booted from it.
> Then installed it on the internal SSD.

And when that machine eventually stops working, you can get
something like this and uset it as a USB drive:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000801427276.html

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Subject: Re: 2005-era software
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 by: Nikolaj Lazic - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:19 UTC

Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:06:52 -0000 (UTC), Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> napis'o:
> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:05:12 -0000 (UTC), Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> napis'o:
>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31:55 +0000, Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> napis'o:
>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
>>> "BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's a great idea, thank you!
>>>>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>>>>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>>>>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>>>>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>>>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>>>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>>>>> I have. It still works.
>>
>> I've checked... I've got this one inside:
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html
>>
>> And SSD drive on it. I think it is 256G or 512G...
>> It is slow, but works.
>> Yes, 32 bit linux but works.
>> All the fresh software. :)
>>
>>> To paraphrase a certain advertisement...
>>> Linux, the OS that reaches the computers other OS's can't :)
>>
>> True!
>>
>> Just download debian live and try it on that machine.
>> I think I placed it on USB flash drive and booted from it.
>> Then installed it on the internal SSD.
>
> And when that machine eventually stops working, you can get
> something like this and uset it as a USB drive:
>
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000801427276.html

Almost forgot...
IDE 2 SATA:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000585602528.html

than SATA 2 SSD:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html

And mSATA SSD on all that. It all fits inside IDE bay.
I think I bought this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32728814333.html

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 by: Ian Jackson - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:17 UTC

In message <smioqk$hbt$1@dont-email.me>, BagelAngel
<jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> writes
>I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came out.
>Thanks!
>
Why "around the year it came out"? There's loads of software (both
freeware and payware) that's (still) available - although sometimes you
might have to use an old(er) version that runs on XP.

Alternatively, the A40 might be upgradable to W10 (although I still
personally prefer XP!). I have a Dell 1520 from early 2007 that was
originally XP, and I have progressively used it on W7, W8 and W10. It
has a pluggable hard drive, so it only takes a few seconds to swap
disks. It's presently on W10 using a solid state drive.
--
Ian

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 by: John Hall - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 18:43 UTC

In message <smioqk$hbt$1@dont-email.me>, BagelAngel
<jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> writes
>I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came out.
>Thanks!
>

You will probably find that most programs released for more recent
32-bit versions of Windows will work fine under Windows XP. I'm running
32-bit Windows 10, and still have some software dating back to Windows
XP days (notably my Turnpike email/news application).
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

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 by: Paul Stewart - Wed, 24 Nov 2021 22:22 UTC

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Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:

> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31:55 +0000, Folderol <general@musically.me.uk>
> napis'o:
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
>> "BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>That's a great idea, thank you!
>>>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>>>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>>>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>>>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>>>> out.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> -J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>>>> I have. It still works.

> I've checked... I've got this one inside:
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html

> And SSD drive on it. I think it is 256G or 512G...
> It is slow, but works.
> Yes, 32 bit linux but works.
> All the fresh software. :)

I seem to recall that Puppy Linux works well on older slower devices.

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 by: Nikolaj Lazic - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:26 UTC

Dana Wed, 24 Nov 2021 22:22:49 GMT, Paul Stewart <narrowboat-paul@outlook.com> napis'o:
> In message <slrnsoq8oo.2ln.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr>
> Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
>
>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:31:55 +0000, Folderol <general@musically.me.uk>
>> napis'o:
>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:20:49 -0000
>>> "BagelAngel" <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's a great idea, thank you!
>>>>"Nikolaj Lazic" <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote in message
>>>>news:slrnsopqgd.26m.nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr...
>>>>> Dana Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:47:01 -0000, BagelAngel
>>>>> <jamesbuckley2002@googlemail.com> napis'o:
>>>>>> I'm writing this on a Toshiba A40 Satellite laptop, and was wondering if
>>>>>> anyone knew of some good Windows XP softtware around the years it came
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Put SSD with IDE->SATA internal converter. And install Linux on it.
>>>>> I have. It still works.
>
>> I've checked... I've got this one inside:
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001345813850.html
>
>> And SSD drive on it. I think it is 256G or 512G...
>> It is slow, but works.
>> Yes, 32 bit linux but works.
>> All the fresh software. :)
>
> I seem to recall that Puppy Linux works well on older slower devices.

Debian works ok on this machine.
Single core celeron. :)

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 by: Folderol - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:22 UTC

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:26:10 -0000 (UTC)
Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
>
>Debian works ok on this machine.
>Single core celeron. :)

Impressive!

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