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 by: David Paste - Sat, 17 Sep 2022 19:38 UTC

Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

Thanks.

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From: newsgro...@gefion.myzen.co.uk (Scott)
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 by: Scott - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 09:24 UTC

On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
<pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:

>Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?
>
>All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
>except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
>seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.
>
Which channels are affected and which not? This may provide an
insight into what is happening.

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From: davew...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave W)
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Subject: Re: Older / cheaper Freview box locks up on certain channels.
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
<pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:
>Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?
>
>All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
>except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
>seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.
>
>Thanks.
If the TV's buttons don't work, it must have locked up and you have no
idea what the Freeview box is doing - probably working normally. If
there is 30 seconds between pressing the power button and the TV
switching off, it's too smart for its own good. The only thing you can
do is switch it off at the mains and switch on again.
--
Dave W

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 by: Adrian Caspersz - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:11 UTC

On 17/09/2022 20:38, David Paste wrote:
> Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?
>
> All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
> except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
> seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

It's dead, Jim....

Maybe the caps have cooked, busy CPU loses power then crashes, and
eventually it all restarts.

Have an off-tuned AM radio placed nearby and have a listen to the sound
of the interference pattern as it changes.

Or look for the bulging caps in the power supply.

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Adrian C

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 by: Brian Gaff - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 15:53 UTC

Yes, Goodman's Smart Talk used to do this a lot and also lose AD and
splutter the voice. In my view all classic signs of the processor being too
slow or the system running out of memory. Even my latest Samsung is not
immune to spluttering, taking a long time to resolve a channel or muttering
gibberish on occasion.
Brian

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"David Paste" <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?
>
> All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
> except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
> seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.
>
> Thanks.

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 by: Brian Gaff - Sun, 18 Sep 2022 15:58 UTC

Yes the problems with the good old TVonics boxes were power supply related.
These were switch mode and even when good chucked out a lot of dross. They
also like many devices had remote controls that gradually died as the
conductive layer under the buttons dried out and fell into the well the
button pushed into. Also those with hard drives corrupted their drives due
to the psu issues.
When will people realise that scrimping on important components gets them a
bad name.
Brian

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> On 17/09/2022 20:38, David Paste wrote:
>> Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?
>>
>> All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
>> except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
>> seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.
>
> It's dead, Jim....
>
> Maybe the caps have cooked, busy CPU loses power then crashes, and
> eventually it all restarts.
>
> Have an off-tuned AM radio placed nearby and have a listen to the sound of
> the interference pattern as it changes.
>
> Or look for the bulging caps in the power supply.
>
> --
> Adrian C

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 by: David Paste - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:58 UTC

Thanks Brian, one of the tellies is indeed a Samsung of about 10 years old.

On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 16:53:53 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Yes, Goodman's Smart Talk used to do this a lot and also lose AD and
> splutter the voice. In my view all classic signs of the processor being too
> slow or the system running out of memory. Even my latest Samsung is not
> immune to spluttering, taking a long time to resolve a channel or muttering
> gibberish on occasion.
> Brian

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 by: David Paste - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 22:03 UTC

On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 11:29:20 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:

> If the TV's buttons don't work, it must have locked up and you have no
> idea what the Freeview box is doing - probably working normally.

It's a Freeview TV, no separate box, and no recording functionality or
anything like that. Only happens on some channels, GB News being
one, I'm not sure which other as the TV owner didn't take note.

> If
> there is 30 seconds between pressing the power button and the TV
> switching off, it's too smart for its own good. The only thing you can
> do is switch it off at the mains and switch on again.

Seems that most things are now. All I want is 4 channels, nicam
stereo, and Teletext.

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 by: David Paste - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 22:04 UTC

On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 10:24:13 UTC+1, Scott wrote:

> Which channels are affected and which not? This may provide an
> insight into what is happening.

GB News is one of the channels but the other is unknown as yet
because the telly's owner/operator didn't take note. The only thing
I could think to do was retune the TVs. We'll see what happens.

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 22:51 UTC

On 20/09/2022 23:04, David Paste wrote:
>
> GB News is one of the channels

Obviously a box with a built-in dislike of fake news then :-)

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
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 by: SH - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 22:51 UTC

On 20/09/2022 23:03, David Paste wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 11:29:20 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
>
>> If the TV's buttons don't work, it must have locked up and you have no
>> idea what the Freeview box is doing - probably working normally.
>
> It's a Freeview TV, no separate box, and no recording functionality or
> anything like that. Only happens on some channels, GB News being
> one, I'm not sure which other as the TV owner didn't take note.
>
>> If
>> there is 30 seconds between pressing the power button and the TV
>> switching off, it's too smart for its own good. The only thing you can
>> do is switch it off at the mains and switch on again.
>
> Seems that most things are now. All I want is 4 channels, nicam
> stereo, and Teletext.

Four channels? How quaint!

that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
books on the shelves!

what is nicam stereo and teletext?

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 by: wrightsaerials@aol.c - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:11 UTC

On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:36 UTC+1, SH wrote:

> that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
> books on the shelves!

It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.

Bill

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 by: David Paste - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:44 UTC

On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:36 UTC+1, SH wrote:

> Four channels? How quaint!
>
> that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
> books on the shelves!

au contraire mon ami ;)

> what is nicam stereo and teletext?

The pinnacle of human achievement.pinnacle

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On Wednesday, 21 September 2022 at 13:11:18 UTC+1, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:

> It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.

Preach, brother!

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 by: David Paste - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:51 UTC

On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:26 UTC+1, Java Jive wrote:
> On 20/09/2022 23:04, David Paste wrote:
> >
> > GB News is one of the channels
> Obviously a box with a built-in dislike of fake news then :-)

I have seen very little of it to be honest, and I am all for people having their
own "thing" but the few times I've tuned in, I can't get over the basicness of
it (I mean the way that language is nearly used to spread the current talking
head's opinion).

Frankly it amazes me that more people don't understand that "News" channels
are nothing of the sort; they are opinion channels with headlines every
half-hour or so. Some opinions may be supported with sources or statistics, and
some opinions may be little more than a venting of the spleen, but opinions they
are.

More accurate to regard them as Supposition & Conjecture channels ;)

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 by: MB - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:37 UTC

On 21/09/2022 13:11, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
> It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.
>
> Bill

And having to pay to read the books though there would still be adverts
on every other page.

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