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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 18:31:13 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Tweed - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 18:31 UTC

https://www.railjournal.com/infrastructure/db-estimates-faulty-sleeper-replacement-to-cost-several-hundred-million-euros/

DB estimates faulty sleeper replacement to cost several hundred million
euros
Two-month long inspection of 200,000 sleepers to be completed this month.

GERMAN Rail (DB) says it will complete the precautionary inspection and
testing of around 200,000 sleepers of a certain type and manufacturer by
the end of August and expects most of the affected lines to reopen to
traffic by the end of the year.

The national inspection programme started in July as a precautionary
measure following the fatal derailment of a regional double-deck train near
Garmisch-Partenkirchen on June 3. Sleepers of a certain type are being
examined by the investigating authorities as a possible contributory factor
to the accident. The accident investigation is still underway.

During the inspection programme DB introduced speed restrictions at some
locations and even closed some sections of line resulting in train
diversions or replacement bus services, adding to DB’s train punctuality
woes this summer.

“The first preliminary findings from technical reports by independent
testing institutes now suggest that there is a manufacturer error,” DB
says. “As a result of the investigations, there are currently restrictions
at around 165 points in the rail network. The federal states of Bavaria,
Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Thuringia are primarily affected.”

DB says it has already been able to replace the sleepers on the first
routes, and replacement dates have now been scheduled for around 90% of the
affected sections, with priority given to the busiest lines.

A DB task force is coordinating the currently scarce construction resources
so that they can be used as effectively as possible. “The necessary
materials are available,” DB says. “Even in times of material shortages, DB
has managed to secure enough new sleepers on the market.”

While DB says the damage caused cannot yet be specifically quantified, it
assumes the cost will be a three-digit million-euro amount. DB is examining
whether it has a legal claim against the sleeper manufacturer which it has
not named.

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Subject: Re: Counting the sleepers
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 by: martin.c...@round-midnight.org.uk - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:09 UTC

It'll be most interesting to have more detail when the investigation
finishes. This could easily be faulty design, faulty manufacture, or
sub-standard materials used in the manufacture.

I'm planning to travel by surface to Wernigerode in the new year which
looks to be far enough ahead so that I'm not impacted
..

On 23/08/2022 19:31, Tweed wrote:
> https://www.railjournal.com/infrastructure/db-estimates-faulty-sleeper-replacement-to-cost-several-hundred-million-euros/
>
> DB estimates faulty sleeper replacement to cost several hundred million
> euros
> Two-month long inspection of 200,000 sleepers to be completed this month.
>
> GERMAN Rail (DB) says it will complete the precautionary inspection and
> testing of around 200,000 sleepers of a certain type and manufacturer by
> the end of August and expects most of the affected lines to reopen to
> traffic by the end of the year.
>
> The national inspection programme started in July as a precautionary
> measure following the fatal derailment of a regional double-deck train near
> Garmisch-Partenkirchen on June 3. Sleepers of a certain type are being
> examined by the investigating authorities as a possible contributory factor
> to the accident. The accident investigation is still underway.
>
> During the inspection programme DB introduced speed restrictions at some
> locations and even closed some sections of line resulting in train
> diversions or replacement bus services, adding to DB’s train punctuality
> woes this summer.
>
> “The first preliminary findings from technical reports by independent
> testing institutes now suggest that there is a manufacturer error,” DB
> says. “As a result of the investigations, there are currently restrictions
> at around 165 points in the rail network. The federal states of Bavaria,
> Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Thuringia are primarily affected.”
>
> DB says it has already been able to replace the sleepers on the first
> routes, and replacement dates have now been scheduled for around 90% of the
> affected sections, with priority given to the busiest lines.
>
> A DB task force is coordinating the currently scarce construction resources
> so that they can be used as effectively as possible. “The necessary
> materials are available,” DB says. “Even in times of material shortages, DB
> has managed to secure enough new sleepers on the market.”
>
> While DB says the damage caused cannot yet be specifically quantified, it
> assumes the cost will be a three-digit million-euro amount. DB is examining
> whether it has a legal claim against the sleeper manufacturer which it has
> not named.
>

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From: bevanpri...@gmail.com (Bevan Price)
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 by: Bevan Price - Wed, 24 Aug 2022 20:29 UTC

On 23/08/2022 19:31, Tweed wrote:
> https://www.railjournal.com/infrastructure/db-estimates-faulty-sleeper-replacement-to-cost-several-hundred-million-euros/
>
> DB estimates faulty sleeper replacement to cost several hundred million
> euros
> Two-month long inspection of 200,000 sleepers to be completed this month.
>
> GERMAN Rail (DB) says it will complete the precautionary inspection and
> testing of around 200,000 sleepers of a certain type and manufacturer by
> the end of August and expects most of the affected lines to reopen to
> traffic by the end of the year.
>
> The national inspection programme started in July as a precautionary
> measure following the fatal derailment of a regional double-deck train near
> Garmisch-Partenkirchen on June 3. Sleepers of a certain type are being
> examined by the investigating authorities as a possible contributory factor
> to the accident. The accident investigation is still underway.
>
> During the inspection programme DB introduced speed restrictions at some
> locations and even closed some sections of line resulting in train
> diversions or replacement bus services, adding to DB’s train punctuality
> woes this summer.
>
> “The first preliminary findings from technical reports by independent
> testing institutes now suggest that there is a manufacturer error,” DB
> says. “As a result of the investigations, there are currently restrictions
> at around 165 points in the rail network. The federal states of Bavaria,
> Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Thuringia are primarily affected.”
>
> DB says it has already been able to replace the sleepers on the first
> routes, and replacement dates have now been scheduled for around 90% of the
> affected sections, with priority given to the busiest lines.
>
> A DB task force is coordinating the currently scarce construction resources
> so that they can be used as effectively as possible. “The necessary
> materials are available,” DB says. “Even in times of material shortages, DB
> has managed to secure enough new sleepers on the market.”
>
> While DB says the damage caused cannot yet be specifically quantified, it
> assumes the cost will be a three-digit million-euro amount. DB is examining
> whether it has a legal claim against the sleeper manufacturer which it has
> not named.
>

Presumably some type of concrete or synthetic sleepers, rather than wood ??

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 by: Recliner - Wed, 24 Aug 2022 20:41 UTC

Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/08/2022 19:31, Tweed wrote:
>> https://www.railjournal.com/infrastructure/db-estimates-faulty-sleeper-replacement-to-cost-several-hundred-million-euros/
>>
>> DB estimates faulty sleeper replacement to cost several hundred million
>> euros
>> Two-month long inspection of 200,000 sleepers to be completed this month.
>>
>> GERMAN Rail (DB) says it will complete the precautionary inspection and
>> testing of around 200,000 sleepers of a certain type and manufacturer by
>> the end of August and expects most of the affected lines to reopen to
>> traffic by the end of the year.
>>
>> The national inspection programme started in July as a precautionary
>> measure following the fatal derailment of a regional double-deck train near
>> Garmisch-Partenkirchen on June 3. Sleepers of a certain type are being
>> examined by the investigating authorities as a possible contributory factor
>> to the accident. The accident investigation is still underway.
>>
>> During the inspection programme DB introduced speed restrictions at some
>> locations and even closed some sections of line resulting in train
>> diversions or replacement bus services, adding to DB’s train punctuality
>> woes this summer.
>>
>> “The first preliminary findings from technical reports by independent
>> testing institutes now suggest that there is a manufacturer error,” DB
>> says. “As a result of the investigations, there are currently restrictions
>> at around 165 points in the rail network. The federal states of Bavaria,
>> Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Thuringia are primarily affected.”
>>
>> DB says it has already been able to replace the sleepers on the first
>> routes, and replacement dates have now been scheduled for around 90% of the
>> affected sections, with priority given to the busiest lines.
>>
>> A DB task force is coordinating the currently scarce construction resources
>> so that they can be used as effectively as possible. “The necessary
>> materials are available,” DB says. “Even in times of material shortages, DB
>> has managed to secure enough new sleepers on the market.”
>>
>> While DB says the damage caused cannot yet be specifically quantified, it
>> assumes the cost will be a three-digit million-euro amount. DB is examining
>> whether it has a legal claim against the sleeper manufacturer which it has
>> not named.
>>
>
>
> Presumably some type of concrete or synthetic sleepers, rather than wood ??

Yes, concrete.

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