I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my daughters
won't have to (in the fullness of time!).

I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.

Nice machine but slowish.

There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile having
a punt at one?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
> daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
>
> I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.
>
> Nice machine but slowish.
>
> There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
> having a punt at one?
>

The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

On 16/10/2023 in message <ugjcif$1e2u6$1@dont-email.me> Pancho wrote:

>On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my daughters
>>won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
>>
>>I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.
>>
>>Nice machine but slowish.
>>
>>There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
>>having a punt at one?
>>
>
>The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

I checked the speed 3 times and still got it wrong, thank you you've save
me a lot of hassle for nothing!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This joke was so funny when I heard it for the first time I fell of my
dinosaur.

Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
> On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> >
> > I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
> > daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
> >
> > I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.
> >
> > Nice machine but slowish.
> >
> > There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
> > having a punt at one?
> >
>
> The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.

The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's
useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it
makes much difference:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

On 16/10/2023 in message <q3t*Lr1sz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

>>>There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
>>>having a punt at one?
>>>
>>
>>The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.
>
>The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's
>useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
>The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it
>makes much difference:
>https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

Many thanks Theo :-)

I tried to find a site like that with no success, bookmarked now.

I am very tempted to change direction and go for a Geekom NUC, perhaps an
advance Christmas present as mince pies are on sale now!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.

Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
> On 16/10/2023 in message <q3t*Lr1sz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:
>
> >>>There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
> >>>having a punt at one?
> >>>
> >>
> >>The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.
> >
> >The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's
> >useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
> >The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it
> >makes much difference:
> >https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K
>
> Many thanks Theo :-)
>
> I tried to find a site like that with no success, bookmarked now.
>
> I am very tempted to change direction and go for a Geekom NUC, perhaps an
> advance Christmas present as mince pies are on sale now!

TBH, unless it's a very cheap CPU upgrade and absolutely nothing else, I'd
be looking at putting money towards something better, eg ex-corporate
machines 2016 and later. I don't know if you care about Windows 11, but I'd
guess the ones that can't run it 'officially' are going for less money on
the used market. If you want small, there's plenty of SFF/USFF machines out
there.

Theo

On 10/16/23 16:07, Theo wrote:
> Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
>> On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>> I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
>>> daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
>>>
>>> I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.
>>>
>>> Nice machine but slowish.
>>>
>>> There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
>>> having a punt at one?
>>>
>>
>> The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.
>
> The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's
> useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
> The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it
> makes much difference:
> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K

I was looking at:

<https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2500K/1979vs619>

I'm not sure where their 5% comes from.

Geekbench also gives 5% faster on single process, but 20% multi core.

I did have a 2500K, and did upgrade it to a 4xxx something or other when
it came out about 8 years ago. I couldn't tell the difference.

Interestingly, Geekbench has the computer I'm currently typing this on
(Orange Pi5), which cost about £100, as 26% faster than a 2500K and 62%
faster multithread, and is using only 2 watts at the wall plug meter.
(The downside is the drivers are shit)

Theo wrote:
> Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
>> On 16/10/2023 13:30, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>> I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
>>> daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
>>>
>>> I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz CPU.
>>>
>>> Nice machine but slowish.
>>>
>>> There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
>>> having a punt at one?
>>>
>>
>> The i5 2500K is 3.3 Ghz. The i7 3770 is reckoned to be 5% faster.
>
> The 3770 hyperthreads, the 2500K doesn't. Your call as to whether that's
> useful for your workload, but CPUbenchmark makes it a 35% difference.
> The 3770k is also clocked slightly faster, although CPUb doesn't reckon it
> makes much difference:
> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/804vs896vs2/Intel-i5-2500K-vs-Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i7-3770K
>

I remember back then that Ivy Bridge was better than Sandy if thrashing
all cores, as it ran cooler and didn't thermal throttle. But for a
student/home PC, probably won't make much difference.

On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:54 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> I am working my way through my pile of computers in the hope my
> daughters won't have to (in the fullness of time!).
>
> I have one with a Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 board and an i5 2500K 2.3 GHz
> CPU.
>
> Nice machine but slowish.
>
> There's a couple of i7 3770 3.4 GHz on eBay/ Would it be worthwhile
> having a punt at one?

Is there much that you are doing which requires more CPU power?
This AMD system was designed to give similar performance to my main i5
2500k system (currently resting) at a reasonable price and so far I
haven't found it lacking in performance for any major task.

Video rendering might benefit from more poke, but AFAICR we have now
stored the DVDs we want on HDD and don't plan rendering any more for the
moment.

Increase in performance has seemed pointless for 10 years or more unless
you are an advanced game player or similar.

Cheers

Dave R

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AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 10 x64