Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One generation forward the people are just normal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australians and will mix in with the rest of Perth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One generation in and they become Australians.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** The "one generation in " lot are just more pommies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without accents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what Australians are anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are no Australian and dumb as dog shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am Australian, but I don't care about being Australian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are basically an English country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't been for a long time now and never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were anything like the poms anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> England could have made it stay English territory if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit they could. All the colonys decided that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted out apart from a tiny handful that had no chance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing on their own like the Falklands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way the colonies could have mounted an army to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight for indepedence from England.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How odd that both Kenya and Rhodesia managed that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they had a huge native population, which Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity about the USA, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The USA was not as pro England as Australia is and was.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So your line about native population is mindless bullshit,
>>>>>>>>>> like all the rest of your even more mindless shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The native population applies to African countries, not to USA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An claimed explanation has to explain all of them, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> USA just wanted to leave anyway,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So did we.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No we didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse we did. The poms didn’t decide to cut us loose
>>>>>> because we were costing them too much to run, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there was a desire to leave we would have had another referendum
>>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No point, we left more than a century ago now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and they had a big enough population.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has nothing to do with the size of the population.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes it does because it means you can mount a bigger army.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit. Rhodesia, Kenya,
>>>>>> Burma, the RSA all left without having that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Australia doesn't want to leave England.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there was a desire to leave we would have had another referendum
>>>>>>> by now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No point, we left more than a century ago now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's why they still have the Queen as head of state,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That stupid woman is our queen, nothing to do with
>>>>>>>> being part of england which we haven't been for well
>>>>>>>> over a century now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is because she is Queen of England that she is our head of state,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, we chose to have that stupid little german
>>>>>> woman as our head of state, for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just like the previous monarch of England was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing like in fact since we left england.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the union jack on the flag, and the Queen on the coins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How odd that Canada doesn’t have either and left later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't left let,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>>>>> never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> neither have they.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>>>>> never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both countries still have QEII as head of state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether we have left, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia was formed with the acquiesence of England.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> England could have maintained it as an overseas territory as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it did other territories like Rhodesia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It didn’t with Kenya, the USA and Rhodesia, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia's population has never been anti-England enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But was very pro independence, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fact. There were no protests when we left.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We did not leave.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Corse we did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We still have QEII as head of state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether we have left, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We had a referendum recently and it voted against a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Separate matter entirely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes you are, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there was a desire to leave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We left more than a century ago now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then there would have been another referendum by now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No point, we left more than a century ago now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and would not have minded if England wanted to retain control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More utterly mindless pig ignorant bullshit, your trademark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regular Aussies despise pommies - with a passion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are called whinging poms for a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The children of pommies are no longer pommies and they mix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in with the rest of the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They just become normal Australians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlike all the ethnic clusterfucks in Sydney and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are a collection of former Crown colonies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yawmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are a "sunburnt country" too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So fucking wot ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It means we are essentially an English country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't been for a long time now and never were either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why do we have the union jack on our flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because that’s who did the original colonys, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it was only historical then it would have been removed by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More utterly mindless pig ignorant bullshit, your trademark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How odd that Canada did. So did Ireland and Scotland and Wales.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly, which proves the point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does. They were all independent much later
>>>>>>>>>> than we were. Ireland had full scale wars to kick the
>>>>>>>>>> fucking poms out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to Australia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have kept the union jack and they haven't. Shows how pro
>>>>>>>>>>> England we are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit with Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And scotland has just had a referendum
>>>>>>>>>> and chose not to leave.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It shows that we are the most pro England out of all of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does. Some still haven't left, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't left
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>>>>> never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and we have flag and the coins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to the fact that we left more than a century ago now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Canada doesn’t have either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We voted not to leave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit we did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do we still have QEII has the head of state then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because more don’t like the idea of a president, yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and we have the flag and coins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to us leaving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shows we still want to remain connected to England.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless bullshit. Have fun explaining why Canada doesn’t have
>>>>>> those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Queen on our coins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because that who we currently have for a queen, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly, the population voted against a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Barely. But will vote for once once Liz is gone, you watch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That shows how we are still an English country
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does. It actually shows that some don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the idea of anything like a US president, even
>>>>>>>>>>>> tho we wouldn\t have that if we were a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that's what the country wants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only until Liz carks it, you watch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So what.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So your shit is mindless shit, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That will be a new era. I am talkign about now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your stupid claim that we didn’t want to leave.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeating that stupid pig ignorant claim changes nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If there was a willingness to there would be a push for another
>>>>>>>>> referendum. There isn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That referendum wasn’t about leaving, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there was a willingness to there would be a push for another
>>>>>>> referendum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because we left more than a century ago now, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Fact, actually.
>>>>
>>>>> There was still God Save the Queen for a long time.
>>>>
>>>> We had our own queen, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Nothing has changed.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. All that silly little german parasite gets to
>> do now is rubber stamp what we tell here to rubber stamp.
>>
>>> We still have the same queen.
>>
>> But she has never had any say what so ever on what we do.
>>
>
> English law cases are still referred to be courts in Australia.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:57:15 +1100, Max scribed:

> English law cases are still referred to be courts in Australia. That
> shows that we are still and English country.

err, nope never.
And appeals to the Privy Council no longer exist.

News 2021 wrote:
==============
>
> > English law cases are still referred to ye courts in Australia. That
> > shows that we are still and English country.
>
> err, nope never.

** Not so quick.

A great many laws here have been adapted from British law.
We *basically* have the same type of legal system as in the UK.
Mostly based on "common law".

We have also straight out copied recent UK innovations in law
- eg so called "do it yourself law".

The CTTT tribunal system, Residential Tenancies Act and the Fair Trading acts were pretty much clones of UK legislation.
Now upgraded to the highly bureaucratic and integrated NCAT horror system.
Such innovations are * riddled * with naive & unjust presumptions and legal errors only a mad pom could believe were OK.

Then of course mindless, corrupt Aussie public servants impose a whole new layer of self serving bullshit on top when implementing it.

....... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> News 2021 wrote

>>> English law cases are still referred to ye courts in Australia.
>>> That shows that we are still and English country.

>> err, nope never.

> Not so quick.

> A great many laws here have been adapted from British law.

In the past, sure, but hardly ever anymore.

> We *basically* have the same type of legal system as in the UK.
> Mostly based on "common law".

That’s an entirely separate matter to the stupid
claim that we are still an english country.

We certainly were established by england but haven't
been an english country for a hell of a long time now.

> We have also straight out copied recent UK innovations
> in law - eg so called "do it yourself law".

Hardly ever.

> The CTTT tribunal system, Residential Tenancies Act and the
> Fair Trading acts were pretty much clones of UK legislation.

BULLSHIT. The same considerations drove both law changes.

They don’t have anything even remotely like our strata
title system and their stupid lease instead of land
ownership system isn't seen here except in Canberra.

Our appeals system is nothing like theirs either.

> Now upgraded to the highly bureaucratic
> and integrated NCAT horror system.

Nothing like how the poms do it.

And their town planning system is nothing even remotely like ours.

> Such innovations are * riddled * with naive & unjust presumptions
> and legal errors only a mad pom could believe were OK.

More mindless bullshit, your trademark.

> Then of course mindless, corrupt Aussie public servants impose a
> whole new layer of self serving bullshit on top when implementing it.

And the poms don’t do it that way.

As always, you don’t have a fucking clue.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> News 2021 wrote

>>>> English law cases are still referred to ye courts in Australia.
>>>> That shows that we are still and English country.
>
>>> err, nope never.
>
>> Not so quick.
>
>> A great many laws here have been adapted from British law.
>
> In the past, sure, but hardly ever anymore.
>
>> We *basically* have the same type of legal system as in the UK.
>> Mostly based on "common law".
>
> That’s an entirely separate matter to the stupid
> claim that we are still an english country.
>
> We certainly were established by england but haven't
> been an english country for a hell of a long time now.
>
>> We have also straight out copied recent UK innovations
>> in law - eg so called "do it yourself law".
>
> Hardly ever.
>
>> The CTTT tribunal system, Residential Tenancies Act and the
>> Fair Trading acts were pretty much clones of UK legislation.
>
> BULLSHIT. The same considerations drove both law changes.
>
> They don’t have anything even remotely like our strata
> title system and their stupid lease instead of land
> ownership system isn't seen here except in Canberra.
>
> Our appeals system is nothing like theirs either.
>
>> Now upgraded to the highly bureaucratic
>> and integrated NCAT horror system.
>
> Nothing like how the poms do it.
>
> And their town planning system is nothing even remotely like ours.
>
>> Such innovations are * riddled * with naive & unjust presumptions
>> and legal errors only a mad pom could believe were OK.
>
> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>
>> Then of course mindless, corrupt Aussie public servants impose a
>> whole new layer of self serving bullshit on top when implementing it.
>
> And the poms don’t do it that way.
>
> As always, you don’t have a fucking clue.

Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms
have started to copy us with devolution etc too.

They are trailing us with same sex marriage,
euthanasia, abortion, lots of other stuff like that.

Rod Speed wrote:
==============> Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > A great many laws here have been adapted from British law.
>>
> > We *basically* have the same type of legal system as in the UK.
> > Mostly based on "common law".
>
> > We have also straight out copied recent UK innovations
> > in law - eg so called "do it yourself law".

> Hardly ever.

** Yaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

> > The CTTT tribunal system, Residential Tenancies Act and the
> > Fair Trading acts were pretty much clones of UK legislation.
>
> BULLSHIT. The same considerations drove both law changes.

** It was a direct copy job of some very bad law.

> They don’t have anything even remotely like our strata
> title system

** We copy them, not the other way.

> > Then of course mindless, corrupt Aussie public servants impose a
> > whole new layer of self serving bullshit on top when implementing it.

> And the poms don’t do it that way.

** They pretty much do.

Rod Speed wrote:
==============
>
> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms
> have started to copy us with devolution etc too.
>
** Pure garbage.

> They are trailing us with same sex marriage,
> euthanasia, abortion, lots of other stuff like that.

** We copy them - fuckhead.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote

>> > A great many laws here have been adapted from British law.
>>>
>> > We *basically* have the same type of legal system as in the UK.
>> > Mostly based on "common law".
>>
>> > We have also straight out copied recent UK innovations
>> > in law - eg so called "do it yourself law".

>> Hardly ever.

>> > The CTTT tribunal system, Residential Tenancies Act and the
>> > Fair Trading acts were pretty much clones of UK legislation.

>> BULLSHIT. The same considerations drove both law changes.

> It was a direct copy job of some very bad law.

Bullshit with the Residential Tenancies Act.
Their system is nothing like ours.

>> They don’t have anything even
>> remotely like our strata title system

> We copy them,

Bullshit they do with land titles and residential tenancys.

> not the other way.

Wrong as always with their devolution.

>>> Then of course mindless, corrupt Aussie public servants impose a
>>> whole new layer of self serving bullshit on top when implementing it.

>> And the poms don’t do it that way.

> They pretty much do.

Bullshit they do.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms
>> have started to copy us with devolution etc too.
>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage,
>> euthanasia, abortion, lots of other stuff like that.
> We copy them

Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
policy system and land ownership in spades.

They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women
long before they did, they have nothing like out arbitration
system, and we never did shoot deserters either. They have
only just recently even had a minimum wage.

Rod Speed wrote:
===========
> > It was a direct copy job of some very bad law.
>
> Bullshit with the Residential Tenancies Act.
>
> Their system is nothing like ours.

** Same horrible DIY system for disputes.

> >> They don’t have anything even
> >> remotely like our strata title system

> > We copy them, not the other way.

> Wrong as always with their devolution.

** Bullshit. We are devolving authority upwards.

On 15/10/2021 5:28 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started to
>>> copy us with devolution etc too.
>
>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>
>> We copy them
>
> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
> policy system and land ownership in spades.
> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before they
> did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we never did
> shoot deserters either. They have
> only just recently even had a minimum wage.
>

Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title, so like
England it is a lease off the Crown.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> It was a direct copy job of some very bad law.

>> Bullshit with the Residential Tenancies Act.

>> Their system is nothing like ours.

> Same horrible DIY system for disputes.

But not copied from them, both just decided to do thing the same way.

And didn’t with a great raft of other stuff.

>>>> They don’t have anything even
>>>> remotely like our strata title system

>>> We copy them, not the other way.

>> Wrong as always with their devolution.

> Bullshit. We are devolving authority upwards.

They have devolved policy to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland,
similar to out states which we have have far longer than they have.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started to
>>>> copy us with devolution etc too.

>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion, lots
>>>> of other stuff like that.

>>> We copy them

>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
>> police system and land ownership in spades.

>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before they
>> did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we never did
>> shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even had a minimum
>> wage.

> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,

Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.

> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.

Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

On 15/10/2021 7:58 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started
>>>>> to copy us with devolution etc too.
>
>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>
>>>> We copy them
>
>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
>>> police system and land ownership in spades.
>
>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>> they did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we never
>>> did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even had a
>>> minimum wage.
>
>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>
> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>

It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
The monarch owns all the land.

>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.
>
> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started to
>>>>>> copy us with devolution etc too.

>>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.

>>>>> We copy them

>>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
>>>> police system and land ownership in spades.

>>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>>> they did, they have nothing like our arbitration system, and we never
>>>> did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even had a
>>>> minimum wage.

>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,

>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.

> It is called a "freehold lease",

Bullshit it is.

> because it is a lease of Crown land.

Bullshit it is.

> The monarch owns all the land.

Not in this country it doesn’t and never has.

>>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.

>> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

Max the Google Monkey Moron puked:

==============================
> >
> >> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
> >
> > Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
> >
> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
> The monarch owns all the land.

** Only applies to Crown Land.

The rest is owned Freehold.

https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land

Like all residential and most business land.
Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights - the govt owns them.

Unless you are Jed Clampett................

...... Phil

On 16/10/2021 12:38 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the Google Monkey Moron puked:
>
> ==============================
> > >
>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>
>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>
>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
>> The monarch owns all the land.
>
> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>
> The rest is owned Freehold.
>
> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>
> Like all residential and most business land.
> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>
> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>

The Crown has "superior interest" to all land. How else does the
government have the ability, in right of the Crown, to compulsorily
acquire land?

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote

>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>
>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>
>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>
>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>
>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>
>> Like all residential and most business land.
>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights - the
>> govt owns them.
>>
>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................

> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.

Wrong, as always.

> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the Crown, to
> compulsorily acquire land?

Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.

On 10/15/2021 7:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started
>>>>> to copy us with devolution etc too.
>
>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>
>>>> We copy them
>
>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
>>> police system and land ownership in spades.
>
>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>> they did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we
>>> never did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even
>>> had a minimum wage.
>
>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>
> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Not in the A.C.T., all land is on a 99yr (renewable) lease..

>
>
>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.
>
> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

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jonz wrote:
==========
>>
> >> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
> >
> > Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Not in the A.C.T., all land is on a 99yr (renewable) lease..
>

** Not quite:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2016-07-04/can-people-own-land-in-the-act/7550166

In reality, there is no actual difference.

...... Phil

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:37:44 +1100, jonz scribed:

> On 10/15/2021 7:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started
>>>>>> to copy us with devolution etc too.
>>
>>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>>
>>>>> We copy them
>>
>>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid police system
>>>> and land ownership in spades.
>>
>>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>>> they did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we never
>>>> did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even had a
>>>> minimum wage.
>>
>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>
>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Not in the A.C.T., all land is on a 99yr (renewable) lease..

As is the western half(1/3rd?) of NSW.

>>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.
>>
>> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

Lol, your strata title is only to the space you can personally fart into.

jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started
>>>>>> to copy us with devolution etc too.
>>
>>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>>
>>>>> We copy them
>>
>>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid
>>>> police system and land ownership in spades.
>>
>>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>>> they did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we
>>>> never did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even
>>>> had a minimum wage.
>>
>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>
>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.

> Not in the A.C.T., all land is on a 99yr (renewable) lease..

Yeah, I said that further back in the thread.
>>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.
>>
>> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.

News 2021 is out of datee:
===========================
> >>
> >> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.
>
> Lol, your strata title is only to the space you can personally fart into.
>

** Blocks of flat often have individual or company ownership.
Freehold.

Strata members, via their corporation, own equal shares in the whole property.
So get an equal say in all matters affecting it.
Plus are equally liable for all costs too.

Just a matter of scale.....

...... Phil

News 2021 <news21@woa.com.au> wrote
> jonz wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> Our police system is nothing like theirs and the poms have started
>>>>>>> to copy us with devolution etc too.
>>>
>>>>>>> They are trailing us with same sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion,
>>>>>>> lots of other stuff like that.
>>>
>>>>>> We copy them
>>>
>>>>> Bullshit we did with that stuff, and with their stupid police system
>>>>> and land ownership in spades.
>>>
>>>>> They have nothing like our ACCC, we had votes for women long before
>>>>> they did, they have nothing like out arbitration system, and we never
>>>>> did shoot deserters either. They have only just recently even had a
>>>>> minimum wage.
>>>
>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>
>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Not in the A.C.T., all land is on a 99yr (renewable) lease..
>
> As is the western half(1/3rd?) of NSW.

Wrong, as always with the towns.
>>>> so like England it is a lease off the Crown.
>>>
>>> Nothing like in fact with with the title to flats etc.
> Lol, your strata title is only to the space you can personally fart into.

They aren't all strata title, fuckwit.

On 16/10/2021 2:03 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Max wrote
>
>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>
>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>
>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>
>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>
>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>
>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>> the govt owns them.
>>>
>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>
>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the Crown,
>> to compulsorily acquire land?
>
> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.

No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.