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* euthanasia lawsMax
+- Re: euthanasia laws*Ördög*
+- Re: euthanasia lawsDechucka
+* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
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|| `* Re: euthanasia lawsDechucka
||  `* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
||   +- Re: euthanasia lawsDechucka
||   `- Re: euthanasia lawsMountain Magpie
|`* Re: euthanasia lawsMax
| +- Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
| `* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
|  +* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
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|  ||`* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
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|  | `- Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
|  `* Re: euthanasia lawsMax
|   +* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
|   |`* Re: euthanasia lawsMax
|   | +* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
|   | |`* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
|   | | `* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
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|   | |   `* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
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|   | +- Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
|   | `* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
|   |  `* Re: euthanasia lawsToby
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|   |    |`* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
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|   |    |      |   `* Re: euthanasia lawsNews 2021
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|   |    |      |     +* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
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|   |    `* Re: euthanasia lawsPhil Allison
|   `* Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
+* Re: euthanasia lawsMountain Magpie
+- Re: euthanasia lawsRod Speed
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Re: euthanasia laws

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 by: Phil Allison - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:35 UTC

Max wrote:
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>
> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.

** ROTFLMAO

This wanker needs to see " The Castle".

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:21 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>> Max wrote

>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>
>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>
>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>
>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights - the
>>>> govt owns them.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>
>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the Crown, to
>>> compulsorily acquire land?
>>
>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>
> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.

Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because Liz
owns it all either.

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 by: Max - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 23:27 UTC

On 17/10/2021 7:21 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>> Max wrote
>
>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown land.
>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>
>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>>>> the govt owns them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>
>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>
>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>
>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>
> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because
> Liz owns it all either.

How else can the govt acquire your land? If it's yours then how can the
govt take it off you, unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?

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 by: Max - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 23:28 UTC

On 17/10/2021 6:35 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
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>>
>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>
> ** ROTFLMAO
>
> This wanker needs to see " The Castle".
>

That was the government acquiring the land, idiot.

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 by: Phil Allison - Sun, 17 Oct 2021 23:55 UTC

Max = Congentuial LIAR wrote:
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> >>
> >> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
> >
> > ** ROTFLMAO
> >
> > This wanker needs to see " The Castle".
> >
> That was the government acquiring the land, idiot.

** It was acquired by a corporation "The Barlow Group".

Local Govts and many others (ie Westconex) can do the same.
And they do not have prior ownership in any way.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 02:40 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown
>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>>>>> the govt owns them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>
>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the Crown,
>>>>> to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>
>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>
>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because Liz
>> owns it all either.

> How else can the govt acquire your land?

By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.

> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the Crown has
> superior interest to all land?

By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.

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 by: Max - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 02:41 UTC

On 18/10/2021 10:55 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max = Congentuial LIAR wrote:
> ----------------------------- ----------------
>>>>
>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>
>>> ** ROTFLMAO
>>>
>>> This wanker needs to see " The Castle".
>>>
>> That was the government acquiring the land, idiot.
>
> ** It was acquired by a corporation "The Barlow Group".
>
> Local Govts and many others (ie Westconex) can do the same.
>
> And they do not have prior ownership in any way.
>

That's just a fictional movie. In reality, it is the government that
compulsorily acquires the land, not a company.

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 by: Max - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:35 UTC

On 18/10/2021 1:40 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown
>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>>>>>> the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>
>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>>
>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because
>>> Liz owns it all either.
>
>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>
> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>
>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the Crown
>> has superior interest to all land?
>
> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.

"The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds) of the
Commonwealth, and Antarctica."

The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
interest, which goes back to feudal times.

"Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed on
us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land if it is
deemed a necessity. During the Second World War the government, acting
on behalf of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land.
Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one
complained. It was wartime."

https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/

-----

Read it and weep. The Queen owns your land. The interest you have in
your land is a form of fuedal tenure. The Queen could take back the
land at any time.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:06 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote

>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>>
>>>> ** ROTFLMAO
>>>>
>>>> This wanker needs to see " The Castle".
>>>>
>>> That was the government acquiring the land, idiot.
>>
>> ** It was acquired by a corporation "The Barlow Group".
>>
>> Local Govts and many others (ie Westconex) can do the same.
>>
>> And they do not have prior ownership in any way.

> That's just a fictional movie.

But that detail is legally accurate.

> In reality, it is the government that compulsorily
> acquires the land, not a company.

That isn't reality in some situations like with major developments
where a holdout can be compulsorily resumed.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:17 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown
>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>>>>>>> the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because
>>>> Liz owns it all either.
>>
>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>
>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>
>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the Crown
>>> has superior interest to all land?
>>
>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>
> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain, Canada,
> Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds) of the
> Commonwealth, and Antarctica."

Just because some pom fool claims something...

> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
> interest, which goes back to feudal times.

> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed on us
> by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land if it is
> deemed a necessity.

It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
constitution.

> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the Crown,
> seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was minimal, and in
> some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It was wartime."

Irrelevant to what our constitution says.

> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/

> -----
>
> Read it and weep.

No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.

> The Queen owns your land.

Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.

> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.

Wrong, as always.

> The Queen could take back the land at any time.

Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)

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 by: Max - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:56 UTC

On 18/10/2021 3:17 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease'
>>>>>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights
>>>>>>>>> - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>
>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>
>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>
>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>
>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain, Canada,
>> Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds) of the
>> Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>
> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>
>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>
>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed on
>> us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land if it
>> is deemed a necessity.
>
> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
> constitution.
>

Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch. In a monarchy, the
monarch owns all the land.

If you don't like that, move to a republic.

>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the
>> Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was
>> minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It was
>> wartime."
>
> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>
>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>
>> -----
>>
>> Read it and weep.
>
> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>
>> The Queen owns your land.
>
> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>

We are not a republic, fuckwit.

>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>
> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)

That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you have a
fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure over land
that the Crown has a superior interest in.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:35 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of Crown
>>>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum rights -
>>>>>>>>>> the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes because
>>>>>> Liz owns it all either.
>>>>
>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>
>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the Crown
>>>>> has superior interest to all land?
>>>>
>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain, Canada,
>>> Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds) of the
>>> Commonwealth, and Antarctica."

Completely silly claim with Antarctica.

>> Just because some pom fool claims something...

>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.

>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed on
>>> us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land if it is
>>> deemed a necessity.
>>
>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>> constitution.

> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.

Yes.

> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.

Wrong, as always.

> If you don't like that, move to a republic.

No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.

>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the
>>> Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was
>>> minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It was
>>> wartime."
>>
>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>
>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Read it and weep.
>>
>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>
>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.

> We are not a republic, fuckwit.

Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now, fuckwit.

>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)

> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you have a
> fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure over land that
> the Crown has a superior interest in.

Wrong, as always.

If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.

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 by: Max - Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:57 UTC

On 18/10/2021 7:35 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the govt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire
>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>
>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>
>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds)
>>>> of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>
> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>
>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>
>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>
>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed
>>>> on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land
>>>> if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>
>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>> constitution.
>
>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>
> Yes.
>
>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>
> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>
>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the
>>>> Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was
>>>> minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It
>>>> was wartime."
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>
>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>
>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>
>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>
>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>
> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now, fuckwit.
>
>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>
>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you have
>> a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure over land
>> that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.

Why is it called 'fee simple' then? What does 'fee simple' mean?

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 19 Oct 2021 22:59 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the
>>>>>>>>>> govt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire
>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain, Canada,
>>>>> Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds) of the
>>>>> Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>
>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>
>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>
>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>
>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed on
>>>>> us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land if it
>>>>> is deemed a necessity.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>> constitution.
>>
>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>
>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>
>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the
>>>>> Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was
>>>>> minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It was
>>>>> wartime."
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/

Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.

>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>
>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>
>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>
>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>
>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now, fuckwit.
>>
>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>
>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you have a
>>> fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure over land
>>> that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.

> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?

It isn't. Its actually called freehold.

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 by: Max - Tue, 19 Oct 2021 23:01 UTC

On 20/10/2021 9:59 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the
>>>>>>>>>>> govt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire
>>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>>>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>
>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>
>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>
>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>>>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>
>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>>>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure
>>>>>> bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back
>>>>>> your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>> constitution.
>>>
>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>
>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>
>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of
>>>>>> the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation
>>>>>> was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained.
>>>>>> It was wartime."
>>>>>
>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>
> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>
>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>
>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>
>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you
>>>> have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure
>>>> over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>
>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>
> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>

"Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete
form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."

https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:43 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold lease'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the
>>>>>>>>>>>> govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire
>>>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>>>>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around two-thirds)
>>>>>>> of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>
>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>
>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>
>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>>>>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>
>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>>>>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure bestowed
>>>>>>> on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back your land
>>>>>>> if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>
>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>
>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>
>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of the
>>>>>>> Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation was
>>>>>>> minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained. It
>>>>>>> was wartime."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/

>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.

Ditto.

>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>
>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>
>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you have
>>>>> a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure over land
>>>>> that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>
>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.

> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete form
> of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."

> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land

Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple

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 by: Max - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:54 UTC

On 20/10/2021 1:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless
>>>>>>>>>> the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long
>>>>>>>> term ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure
>>>>>>>> bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take
>>>>>>>> back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>
>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of
>>>>>>>> the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation
>>>>>>>> was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one
>>>>>>>> complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>
>
>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>
> Ditto.
>
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>
>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you
>>>>>> have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure
>>>>>> over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>
>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>
>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete
>> form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>
>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>
> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 05:19 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly acquire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless the
>>>>>>>>>>> Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee simple"
>>>>>>>>> interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long term
>>>>>>>>> ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure
>>>>>>>>> bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take back
>>>>>>>>> your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of
>>>>>>>>> the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation
>>>>>>>>> was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one complained.
>>>>>>>>> It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>
>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you
>>>>>>> have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure
>>>>>>> over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>
>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>
>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete
>>> form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>
>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>
>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple


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 by: Max - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 07:39 UTC

On 20/10/2021 4:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long
>>>>>>>>>> term ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal
>>>>>>>>>> tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can
>>>>>>>>>> take back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf
>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land.
>>>>>>>>>> Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all.
>>>>>>>>>> No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>
>>> Ditto.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the
>>>>>>>> you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal
>>>>>>>> tenure over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>
>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>
>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>
>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>
>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>
> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 18:25 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long
>>>>>>>>>>> term ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure
>>>>>>>>>>> bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take
>>>>>>>>>>> back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of
>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation
>>>>>>>>>>> was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one
>>>>>>>>>>> complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>
>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you
>>>>>>>>> have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure
>>>>>>>>> over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>
>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete
>>>>> form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>
>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>
>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>
>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>
>
> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the certificate is
> proof of title, as opposed to the old English system where you have to
> prove the chain of ownership.


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 by: Max - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 22:10 UTC

On 21/10/2021 5:25 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members
>>>>>>>>>>>> (around two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about
>>>>>>>>>>>> long term ownership, but in reality are both a form of
>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown can take back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the
>>>>>>>>>> you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal
>>>>>>>>>> tenure over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>
>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>
>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>
>>
>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the
>> certificate is proof of title, as opposed to the old English system
>> where you have to prove the chain of ownership.
>
> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.
>


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 20 Oct 2021 22:29 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> term ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the
>>>>>>>>>>> you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal
>>>>>>>>>>> tenure over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>
>>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the certificate
>>> is proof of title, as opposed to the old English system where you have
>>> to prove the chain of ownership.
>>
>> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.


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 by: Max - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 23:18 UTC

On 21/10/2021 9:29 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (around two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term ownership, but in reality are both a form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown can take back your land if it is deemed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land. Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all. No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are
>>>>>>>>>>> now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>> the you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure over land that the Crown has a superior
>>>>>>>>>>>> interest in.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>>
>>>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the
>>>> certificate is proof of title, as opposed to the old English system
>>>> where you have to prove the chain of ownership.
>>>
>>> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.
>
>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>
> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>
>>>> It is named after the guy in Adelaide who invented it.
>>>
>>>>>> This is what it says on the certificate of title:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "I certify that the person described in the First Schedule is the
>>>>>> registered proprietor on an estate in fee simple (or such other
>>>>>> estate or interest as set forth in that Schedule)
>>>>>
>>>>> Which just happens to be freehold, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you admit it is fee simple.
>>>
>>> Nope. Its freehold.
>
>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>
> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>
>>>> Therefore it is a feudal tenure.
>
>>> Nope.
>
>> Yep.  What does fee simple mean then?
>
> Its freehold, fuckwit.
>


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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 23:42 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (around two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term ownership, but in reality are both a form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crown can take back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the
>>>>> certificate is proof of title, as opposed to the old English system
>>>>> where you have to prove the chain of ownership.
>>>>
>>>> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.
>>
>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>
>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>
>>>>> It is named after the guy in Adelaide who invented it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what it says on the certificate of title:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I certify that the person described in the First Schedule is the
>>>>>>> registered proprietor on an estate in fee simple (or such other
>>>>>>> estate or interest as set forth in that Schedule)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which just happens to be freehold, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit it is fee simple.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Its freehold.
>>
>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>
>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>
>>>>> Therefore it is a feudal tenure.
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>> Yep. What does fee simple mean then?
>>
>> Its freehold, fuckwit.


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 by: Max - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 00:43 UTC

On 23/10/2021 10:42 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'freehold lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petroleum rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right of the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compulsoirly acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it likes because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members (around two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fee simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term ownership, but in reality are both a form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feudal tenure bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown can take back your land if it is deemed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land. Compensation was minimal, and in some cases not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid at all. No one complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>>>>>>>>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>>>>>>>>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the you have a fee simple interest in your land, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a feudal tenure over land that the Crown has a superior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most
>>>>>>>>>> complete form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In NSW it is a fee simple interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. Its actually torrens title freehold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Torrens just means it is kept at a central register and the
>>>>>> certificate is proof of title, as opposed to the old English
>>>>>> system where you have to prove the chain of ownership.
>>>>>
>>>>> The word FREEHOLD is what matters, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>>
>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>
>>>>>> It is named after the guy in Adelaide who invented it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is what it says on the certificate of title:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I certify that the person described in the First Schedule is
>>>>>>>> the registered proprietor on an estate in fee simple (or such
>>>>>>>> other estate or interest as set forth in that Schedule)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which just happens to be freehold, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you admit it is fee simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Its freehold.
>>>
>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple
>>>
>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>>>
>>>>>> Therefore it is a feudal tenure.
>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>> Yep.  What does fee simple mean then?
>>>
>>> Its freehold, fuckwit.
>
>> Freehold is a feudal tenure as well, seeing as it's the same as fee
>> simple.
>
> No it isn't.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>
>>>>>> You have just to have accept that you only have feudal tenure over
>>>>>> your land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I rubbed your stupid nose in the
>>>>> fact that I actually have freehold title.
>>>
>>>> There is no difference between freehold and fee simple.
>>>
>>> How odd that they have two very difference wikipedia pages, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
>
>> So what. Doesn't mean they aren't the same thing.
>
> It spells out that they are quite different.
>


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