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* news.eternal-september.orgmac
+- news.eternal-september.orgJohn the R-T
+* news.eternal-september.orgJim S
|`* news.eternal-september.orgmac
| `* news.eternal-september.orgboggy
|  +* news.eternal-september.orgmac
|  |+- news.eternal-september.orgboggy
|  |`- news.eternal-september.orgmac
|  `* news.eternal-september.orgmac
|   +- news.eternal-september.orgWho, me?
|   `- news.eternal-september.orgboggy
+* news.eternal-september.orgAbandoned_Trolley
|`* news.eternal-september.orgJeff Gaines
| `* news.eternal-september.orgAbandoned_Trolley
|  `* news.eternal-september.orgIndy Jess John
|   +- news.eternal-september.orgJohn the R-T
|   `* news.eternal-september.orgAbandoned_Trolley
|    `* news.eternal-september.orgOliver
|     `* news.eternal-september.orgAbandoned_Trolley
|      `* news.eternal-september.orgRay
|       `- news.eternal-september.orgmac
`- news.eternal-september.orgJack Harry Teesdale

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 by: mac - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:10 UTC

The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?

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Regards Steve.

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 by: John the R-T - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:21 UTC

After serious thinking mac wrote :
> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?

Replying from ES

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 by: Jim S - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:23 UTC

On Tue, 3 May 2022 11:10:36 +0100, mac wrote:

> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?

OK here
NE UK
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Jim S

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 by: mac - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:31 UTC

This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in use and
the Port you are set to please?

--
Regards Steve.

"Jim S" <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 May 2022 11:10:36 +0100, mac wrote:
>
>> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?
>
> OK here
> NE UK
> --
> Jim S

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 by: boggy - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:40 UTC

On 03/05/2022 11:31, mac wrote:
> This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in use
> and the Port you are set to please?
>

Mine's fine on news.eternal-september.org, port 563

All the servers are showing green on the status page.

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boggy

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 by: mac - Tue, 3 May 2022 10:54 UTC

Mine is and has always been set to reader.eternal-september.org, port 563
since the transition from Motzerella back in 2009.
I have tried news.eternal-september.org, port 563, no go! Grrrr
Does the server that I use appear on the status page?
Thanks.

--
Regards Steve.

"boggy" <boggy@peatbogs.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 03/05/2022 11:31, mac wrote:
>> This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in use
>> and the Port you are set to please?
>>
>
> Mine's fine on news.eternal-september.org, port 563
>
> All the servers are showing green on the status page.
>
> --
>
> boggy

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Tue, 3 May 2022 11:52 UTC

On 03/05/2022 11:10, mac wrote:
> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?
>

interesting question to put in a newsgroup ...

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Tue, 3 May 2022 12:17 UTC

On 03/05/2022 in message <t4r52f$26j$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley
wrote:

>On 03/05/2022 11:10, mac wrote:
>>The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?
>>
>
>interesting question to put in a newsgroup ...

It's possible to extrapolate an answer from the number of replies :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

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 by: boggy - Tue, 3 May 2022 12:35 UTC

On 03/05/2022 11:54, mac wrote:
> Mine is and has always been set to reader.eternal-september.org, port
> 563 since the transition from Motzerella back in 2009.
> I have tried news.eternal-september.org, port 563, no go! Grrrr
> Does the server that I use appear on the status page?
> Thanks.
>

The status page is at:

<http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en>

reader80 and reader443 appear there rather than just 'reader', so that
might help...

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boggy

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Tue, 3 May 2022 13:13 UTC

On 03/05/2022 13:17, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 in message <t4r52f$26j$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/05/2022 11:10, mac wrote:
>>> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the
>>> same?
>>>
>>
>> interesting question to put in a newsgroup  ...
>
> It's possible to extrapolate an answer from the number of replies :-)
>

and impossible to deduce anything from the people who have not replied
because their connection has crashed ?

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 by: Indy Jess John - Tue, 3 May 2022 13:37 UTC

On 03/05/2022 14:13, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 13:17, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 03/05/2022 in message <t4r52f$26j$1@dont-email.me>
>> Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/05/2022 11:10, mac wrote:
>>>> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the
>>>> same?
>>>>
>>>
>>> interesting question to put in a newsgroup  ...
>>
>> It's possible to extrapolate an answer from the number of replies :-)
>>
>
>
> and impossible to deduce anything from the people who have not replied
> because their connection has crashed  ?
>
Some people subscribe to more than one news service. The original
message was posted on the Aioe.org NNTP Server, for instance.
A reply along the lines of "I saw your message on [Service Name] but not
on eternal-september would be quite helpful.

Jim

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 by: mac - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:00 UTC

"boggy" <boggy@peatbogs.co.uk> wrote in message
news:t4r0ql$rpj$1@dont-email.me...
> On 03/05/2022 11:31, mac wrote:
>> This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in use
>> and the Port you are set to please?
>>
>
> Mine's fine on news.eternal-september.org, port 563

Thanks for your replies. I've got it to work by removing the check mark from
use SSL, and left the original server name "reader" on Port 119.
Now I wonder why SSL and 563 ued to work but now it will not?

"boggy" do you have SSL selected with 563 please?

--
Regards Steve.

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 by: John the R-T - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:00 UTC

On Tue, 3 May 2022 14:37:44 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:

> Some people subscribe to more than one news service. The original
> message was posted on the Aioe.org NNTP Server, for instance.
> A reply along the lines of "I saw your message on [Service Name] but not
> on eternal-september would be quite helpful.

Or as I did from ES
my headers:-
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--
John the R-T
http://www.john-the-r-t.co.uk// Cruise and Family site.
http://www.recycledteenager.plus.com/

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 by: Who, me? - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:04 UTC

On Tue, 03 May 2022 15:00:33 +0100, mac wrote:

> "boggy" <boggy@peatbogs.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:t4r0ql$rpj$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 03/05/2022 11:31, mac wrote:
>>> This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in
>>> use and the Port you are set to please?
>>>
>>>
>> Mine's fine on news.eternal-september.org, port 563
>
> Thanks for your replies. I've got it to work by removing the check mark
> from use SSL, and left the original server name "reader" on Port 119.
> Now I wonder why SSL and 563 ued to work but now it will not?
>
> "boggy" do you have SSL selected with 563 please?

I thought I'd better check mine too as I use news etc on 119...

--
david

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 by: boggy - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:13 UTC

On 03/05/2022 15:00, mac wrote:
>
> "boggy" <boggy@peatbogs.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:t4r0ql$rpj$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 03/05/2022 11:31, mac wrote:
>>> This started yesterday, any chance you can check the Server name in
>>> use and the Port you are set to please?
>>>
>>
>> Mine's fine on news.eternal-september.org, port 563
>
> Thanks for your replies. I've got it to work by removing the check mark
> from use SSL, and left the original server name "reader" on Port 119.
> Now I wonder why SSL and 563 ued to work but now it will not?
>
> "boggy" do you have SSL selected with 563 please?
>

Yes - SSL/TLS is selected.

--

boggy

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Tue, 3 May 2022 15:11 UTC

> Some people subscribe to more than one news service. The original
> message was posted on the Aioe.org NNTP Server, for instance.
> A reply along the lines of "I saw your message on [Service Name] but not
> on eternal-september would be quite helpful.
>
> Jim

I take your point ..

However, there is no way of knowing how many people subscribe to a
single service and drop off the radar when it crashes.

Any number of them might be quite happy to wait a few hours / days for
it to come back up before doing anything serious like hunting down an
alternative server - especially now that there is a diminishing number
of free servers available.

So I still maintain that there is nothing to be deduced from their lack
of response.

Also, I am told that theres a couple of people out there who are
actually not checking their news feeds on an hourly basis.

--
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 by: Oliver - Tue, 3 May 2022 21:52 UTC

On 03/05/2022 16:11, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
> So I still maintain that there is nothing to be deduced from their lack
> of response.
[snipped]

So there was I following this thread thinking it was nothing to do with
me because I use VirginMedia's newsgroups. But of course I use
eternal-september because VM stopped supporting newsgroups ages ago.
Eternal-September has been working well but I also have aioe as backup.

--
Oliver

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Wed, 4 May 2022 06:48 UTC

>
> So there was I following this thread thinking it was nothing to do with
> me because I use VirginMedia's newsgroups. But of course I use
> eternal-september because VM stopped supporting newsgroups ages ago.
> Eternal-September has been working well but I also have aioe as backup.
>

So I still maintain that there is nothing to be deduced from their lack
of response ?

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 by: Ray - Wed, 4 May 2022 07:05 UTC

On 4 May 2022 at 07:48:42 BST, "Abandoned_Trolley" <fred@fred-smith.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>>
>> So there was I following this thread thinking it was nothing to do with
>> me because I use VirginMedia's newsgroups. But of course I use
>> eternal-september because VM stopped supporting newsgroups ages ago.
>> Eternal-September has been working well but I also have aioe as backup.
>>
>
>
> So I still maintain that there is nothing to be deduced from their lack
> of response ?

It means "they" have nothing useful to add to the conversation.

For the OP, look at the list of server names available with SSL/TLS.
And has your email/newsreader been updated recently by Microsoft?

--
A bachelor is a selfish, undeserving guy who has cheated some woman out of a divorce.
-- Don Quinn

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 by: Jack Harry Teesdale - Wed, 4 May 2022 10:51 UTC

On 03/05/2022 11:10, mac wrote:
> The server appears to be down, just for me or are others seeing the same?
>
My connection has been working as normal.

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 by: mac - Fri, 6 May 2022 10:40 UTC

" mac" <macnever@fsmail.net> wrote in message
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> Mine is and has always been set to reader.eternal-september.org, port 563
> with SSL.
> since the transition from Motzerella back in 2009.

Having tested the above, original settings, several times over the past few
days with no luck!

This morning they are working again :-)

--
Regards Steve.

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 by: mac - Fri, 6 May 2022 10:53 UTC

"Ray" <amos-jones@outlook.com> wrote in message
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> On 4 May 2022 at 07:48:42 BST, "Abandoned_Trolley" <fred@fred-smith.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> For the OP, look at the list of server names available with SSL/TLS.
> And has your email/newsreader been updated recently by Microsoft?

Hi I missed this, I had tried all the combinations of server settings on the
ES Status page to no avail.
I use Windows Mail in W7, (cloned from Win Vista), so definitely no updates
from MS :-))
Cheers.

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Regards Steve.

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