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* UpgradeSteve Hough
+* Re: UpgradeTom Furie
|`* Re: UpgradeSteve Hough
| +- Re: UpgradeSteve Hough
| `* Re: UpgradeJeff Gaines
|  `* Re: UpgradeSteve Hough
|   `* Re: UpgradeJeff Gaines
|    `* Re: UpgradeSteve Hough
|     `* Re: UpgradeJeff Gaines
|      `* Re: UpgradeSteve Hough
|       `* Re: UpgradeJeff Gaines
|        `* Re: UpgradeSteveH stevenhough 2000
|         `- Re: UpgradeJeff Gaines
`- Re: UpgradeAndy Burns

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From: stevenho...@MEyahoo.co.uk (Steve Hough)
Newsgroups: uk.comp.homebuilt
Subject: Upgrade
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 by: Steve Hough - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:28 UTC

Hi, can someone double check me pls?

I'm about to buy the bits below. Should they all
be ok together? Been a while since I built this
W7 box.
Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12 Core
Processor
ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming WiFi ATX Motherboard
Microsoft Windows 11 - Home 64bit OEM - 1 License
WD Black SN850X 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4
Solid State Drive
Kingston FURY Beast 16GB 6000MHz DDR5 CL36 DIMM
Memory

Im hoping it will work with my Nvidia 1050ti card
for now

Cheers people!

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Newsgroups: uk.comp.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Upgrade
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 by: Tom Furie - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:46 UTC

Steve Hough <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk> writes:

> Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12 Core Processor
> ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming WiFi ATX Motherboard

Unless things have changed recently, you're wasting the potential of
that K-SKU CPU on a B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU is an
overclocker, but that's not something the B-series motherboard will
allow. For the best match you'd want to either save a few pennies and
get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and get a Z-series motherboard.

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 by: Andy Burns - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:50 UTC

Steve Hough wrote:

> ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming WiFi

Obviously don't get the ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming WiFi D4 variant,
seems a potential search engine trap to have two names *that* similar.

> Kingston FURY Beast 16GB 6000MHz DDR5 CL36 DIMM Memory

The memory support list only says CL40 not CL36, so you might not wring
the last dregs of speed out of the memory.

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 by: Steve Hough - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 22:15 UTC

After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
> Steve Hough
> <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12
>> Core Processor ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming
>> WiFi ATX Motherboard
>
> Unless things have changed recently, you're
> wasting the potential of that K-SKU CPU on a
> B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU is
> an overclocker, but that's not something the
> B-series motherboard will allow. For the best
> match you'd want to either save a few pennies
> and get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and
> get a Z-series motherboard.

Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX
ATX Motherboard

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 by: Steve Hough - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 22:40 UTC

Steve Hough wrote on 02/12/2023 :
> After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
>> Steve Hough
>> <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk>
>> writes:
>>
>>> Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12
>>> Core Processor ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming
>>> WiFi ATX Motherboard
>>
>> Unless things have changed recently, you're
>> wasting the potential of that K-SKU CPU on a
>> B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU is
>> an overclocker, but that's not something the
>> B-series motherboard will allow. For the best
>> match you'd want to either save a few pennies
>> and get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and
>> get a Z-series motherboard.
>
> Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX
> ATX Motherboard

And this: Intel Core i7 12700F 12th Gen Alder
Lake 12 Core Processor

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 22:42 UTC

On 02/12/2023 in message <ukgaaj$2h8mp$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:

>After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
>>Steve Hough <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>>Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12 Core Processor ASUS ROG STRIX
>>>B760-A Gaming WiFi ATX Motherboard
>>
>>Unless things have changed recently, you're wasting the potential of that
>>K-SKU CPU on a B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU is an
>>overclocker, but that's not something the B-series motherboard will
>>allow. For the best match you'd want to either save a few pennies and
>>get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and get a Z-series motherboard.
>
>Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX ATX Motherboard

I went for:

Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX Motherboard

which takes DDR4 memory and is not designed to overclock. It needs an 8
pin and a 4 pin power supply as well as the standard 24 pin. I have,
within the last few minutes, found all the cables to do this but you may
want to check?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do or
say nothing. (Edmund Burke)

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 by: Steve Hough - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 11:38 UTC

Jeff Gaines laid this down on his screen :
> On 02/12/2023 in message
> <ukgaaj$2h8mp$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
> wrote:
>
>>After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
>>>Steve Hough
>>> <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>>Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12
>>>> Core Processor ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A Gaming
>>>> WiFi ATX Motherboard
>>>
>>>Unless things have changed recently, you're
>>> wasting the potential of that K-SKU CPU on a
>>> B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU
>>> is an overclocker, but that's not something
>>> the B-series motherboard will allow. For
>>> the best match you'd want to either save a
>>> few pennies and get a non-K CPU, or spend a
>>> few extra and get a Z-series motherboard.
>>
>>Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX
>> ATX Motherboard
>
> I went for:
>
> Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX Motherboard
>
> which takes DDR4 memory and is not designed to
> overclock. It needs an 8 pin and a 4 pin power
> supply as well as the standard 24 pin. I have,
> within the last few minutes, found all the
> cables to do this but you may want to check?

Ive got a brand new PSU waiting for it, which
seems to have all the right plugs.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 12:09 UTC

On 04/12/2023 in message <ukkdno$3d75n$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:

>Jeff Gaines laid this down on his screen :
>>On 02/12/2023 in message <ukgaaj$2h8mp$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
>>wrote:
>>
>>>After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
>>>>Steve Hough <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake 12 Core Processor ASUS ROG
>>>>>STRIX B760-A Gaming WiFi ATX Motherboard
>>>>
>>>>Unless things have changed recently, you're wasting the potential of
>>>>that K-SKU CPU on a B-motherboard. The K tag indicates the CPU is an
>>>>overclocker, but that's not something the B-series motherboard will
>>>>allow. For the best match you'd want to either save a few pennies and
>>>>get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and get a Z-series motherboard.
>>>
>>>Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX ATX Motherboard
>>
>>I went for:
>>
>>Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX Motherboard
>>
>>which takes DDR4 memory and is not designed to overclock. It needs an 8
>>pin and a 4 pin power supply as well as the standard 24 pin. I have,
>>within the last few minutes, found all the cables to do this but you may
>>want to check?
>
>Ive got a brand new PSU waiting for it, which seems to have all the right
>plugs.

Mine worked without the second power connector but the cable I need should
arrive by 1:45 if Amazon does its stuff!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

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 by: Steve Hough - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 13:48 UTC

Jeff Gaines used his keyboard to write :
> On 04/12/2023 in message
> <ukkdno$3d75n$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
> wrote:
>
>>Jeff Gaines laid this down on his screen :
>>>On 02/12/2023 in message
>>> <ukgaaj$2h8mp$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>After serious thinking Tom Furie wrote :
>>>>>Steve Hough
>>>>> <stevenhough_2000REMOVE@MEyahoo.co.uk>
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel Core i7 12700K 12th Gen Alder Lake
>>>>>> 12 Core Processor ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A
>>>>>> Gaming WiFi ATX Motherboard
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless things have changed recently, you're
>>>>> wasting the potential of that K-SKU CPU
>>>>> on a B-motherboard. The K tag indicates
>>>>> the CPU is an overclocker, but that's
>>>>> not something the B-series motherboard
>>>>> will allow. For the best match you'd
>>>>> want to either save a few pennies and
>>>>> get a non-K CPU, or spend a few extra and
>>>>> get a Z-series motherboard.
>>>>
>>>>Now looking at this: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X
>>>> AX ATX Motherboard
>>>
>>>I went for:
>>>
>>>Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX Motherboard
>>>
>>>which takes DDR4 memory and is not designed
>>> to overclock. It needs an 8 pin and a 4 pin
>>> power supply as well as the standard 24
>>> pin. I have, within the last few minutes,
>>> found all the cables to do this but you may
>>> want to check?
>>
>>Ive got a brand new PSU waiting for it, which
>> seems to have all the right plugs.
>
> Mine worked without the second power connector
> but the cable I need should arrive by 1:45 if
> Amazon does its stuff!

All my parts come tomorrow (by DPD
unfortunately). I even bought a copy of W11!

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 14:16 UTC

On 04/12/2023 in message <ukklan$3efqk$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:

>>Mine worked without the second power connector but the cable I need
>>should arrive by 1:45 if Amazon does its stuff!
>
>All my parts come tomorrow (by DPD unfortunately). I even bought a copy of
>W11!

It arrived (not quite the one I ordered but it works) and is fitted, it
has pushed the Novabench score up by about 10% whereas tweaking memory
speed did nothing (perhaps lack of power?).

I found a seller on eBay offering Win 10 licences at £7.98 and it
activated fine, hope future installs will as well!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who
watch them without doing anything. (Albert Einstein)

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From: stevenho...@MEyahoo.co.uk (Steve Hough)
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Subject: Re: Upgrade
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 17:05:00 GMT
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 by: Steve Hough - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:05 UTC

on 04/12/2023, Jeff Gaines supposed :
> On 04/12/2023 in message
> <ukklan$3efqk$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
> wrote:
>
>>>Mine worked without the second power
>>> connector but the cable I need should
>>> arrive by 1:45 if Amazon does its stuff!
>>
>>All my parts come tomorrow (by DPD
>> unfortunately). I even bought a copy of W11!
>
> It arrived (not quite the one I ordered but it
> works) and is fitted, it has pushed the
> Novabench score up by about 10% whereas
> tweaking memory speed did nothing (perhaps lack
> of power?).
>
> I found a seller on eBay offering Win 10
> licences at £7.98 and it activated fine, hope
> future installs will as well!

Turns out mine wont start. Im hoping its just
that it needs both 8 pin 12v connectors plugged
in (my psu only has 2x4), so adapters are coming!

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From: jgnew...@outlook.com (Jeff Gaines)
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Subject: Re: Upgrade
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:19 UTC

On 05/12/2023 in message <uknl7n$7te5$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:

>on 04/12/2023, Jeff Gaines supposed :
>>On 04/12/2023 in message <ukklan$3efqk$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Mine worked without the second power connector but the cable I need
>>>>should arrive by 1:45 if Amazon does its stuff!
>>>
>>>All my parts come tomorrow (by DPD unfortunately). I even bought a copy
>>>of W11!
>>
>>It arrived (not quite the one I ordered but it works) and is fitted, it
>>has pushed the Novabench score up by about 10% whereas tweaking memory
>>speed did nothing (perhaps lack of power?).
>>
>>I found a seller on eBay offering Win 10 licences at £7.98 and it
>>activated fine, hope future installs will as well!
>
>Turns out mine wont start. Im hoping its just that it needs both 8 pin 12v
>connectors plugged in (my psu only has 2x4), so adapters are coming!

Fingers crossed for you!

I will start the software transfer tomorrow, lots of stuff that has to be
un-installed from the old PC while connected to the Internet so it can
free the licence for a re-install.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.
It was a right bugger to get him back when he ran off.

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 by: SteveH s...@yahoo.com - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:59 UTC

In reply to "Jeff Gaines" who wrote the following:

> On 05/12/2023 in message <uknl7n$7te5$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:
>
> > on 04/12/2023, Jeff Gaines supposed :
> > > On 04/12/2023 in message <ukklan$3efqk$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Mine worked without the second power connector but the cable I need
> > > > > should arrive by 1:45 if Amazon does its stuff!
> > > >
> > > > All my parts come tomorrow (by DPD unfortunately). I even bought a copy
> > > > of W11!
> > >
> > > It arrived (not quite the one I ordered but it works) and is fitted, it
> > > has pushed the Novabench score up by about 10% whereas tweaking memory
> > > speed did nothing (perhaps lack of power?).
> > >
> > > I found a seller on eBay offering Win 10 licences at �7.98 and it
> > > activated fine, hope future installs will as well!
> >
> > Turns out mine wont start. Im hoping its just that it needs both 8 pin 12v
> > connectors plugged in (my psu only has 2x4), so adapters are coming!
>
> Fingers crossed for you!
>
> I will start the software transfer tomorrow, lots of stuff that has to be
> un-installed from the old PC while connected to the Internet so it can
> free the licence for a re-install.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK

It lives! Just needed both 8 pin 12v connectors plugged in. W11 installed and
running great. ANd most stuff trans ferred off the old ssd with W7 on it. It
just picked yesterday to lose its bloody file table!

Steve

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 22:54 UTC

On 10/12/2023 in message <4FpdN.196609$QoTa.196218@fx01.ams4> SteveH
stevenhough_2000@yahoo.com wrote:

>It lives! Just needed both 8 pin 12v connectors plugged in. W11 installed
>and
>running great. ANd most stuff trans ferred off the old ssd with W7 on it.
>It
>just picked yesterday to lose its bloody file table!
>
>Steve

Well done, it's a great feeling :-)

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Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them?
(President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the
telephone)

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