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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 08:34 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>> Plus, IME strata LLs are not often locals

>>>>>> BULLSHIT. In fact the majority of them are.

>>>>> No they are not.

>>>> Corse they are because it’s a lot harder and more
>>>> expensive to check on property that isn't local.

>>> Strata block next door - all 3 committee members live in Melbourne.

>> Strata block my mate owns a unit in,
>> all but one of the landlords is local.

> So fucking wot ?

So your stupid claim is just that, as always.

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:32 UTC

Rod Ex- Speed Cop Rabid LUNATIC & LIAR :

==========================>>
> >>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements to not
> >>> interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>
> >> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>
> > Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>
> Irrelevant to the fact if what the law proscribes when there is no lease
> agreement, fuckwit.

** ROTFLMAO - wot a collossal BULLSHITTER !!


> > standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
> > to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>
> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>

** Verbal and implied is fine - it it looks like a duck, it's a duck.

See S13 of the Act.

....... Phil

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:36 UTC

Rod Speed King Size FUCKING LIAR wrote:
===================================>
> >>>>>>> Plus, IME strata LLs are not often locals
>
> >>>>>> BULLSHIT. In fact the majority of them are.
>
> >>>>> No they are not.
>
> >>>> Corse they are because it’s a lot harder and more
> >>>> expensive to check on property that isn't local.
>
> >>> Strata block next door - all 3 committee members live in Melbourne.
>
> >> Strata block my mate owns a unit in,
> >> all but one of the landlords is local.
>
> > So fucking wot ?
>
> So your stupid claim is just that, as always.
>

** " IME strata LL are not often locals "

And:

" Strata block next door - all 3 committee members live in Melbourne.
The five rented units near mine have LLs that live 20 to 50 miles away.
My LL lives 160 miles away.
My previous LL lived 30 miles away.
Not local. "

......... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:44 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements to not
>>>>> interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property

>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,

>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement

>> Irrelevant to the fact if what the law proscribes
>> when there is no lease agreement, fuckwit.

>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.

>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.

> See S13 of the Act.

Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.

And clearly if there isn't one, there is no section of it granting anything,
fuckwit.

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 20:10 UTC

Rod Speed = Fucking LIAR wrote:

===============================> >>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements to not
> >>>>> interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>
> >>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>
> >>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>>
> >>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
> >>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>
> >> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
> > See S13 of the Act.

> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Verbal and implied is fine - it it looks like a duck, it's a duck.

See S13 of the Act.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 20:57 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements to not
>>>>>>> interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented
>>>>>>> property

>>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,

>>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement

>>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.

>>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.

>>> See S13 of the Act.

>> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.

> Verbal and implied is fine

Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.

And if its verbal and/or implied, that term doesn’t have
to be in it and that requirement is still provided by law,
not by the lease agreement, fuckwit.

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:22 UTC

Rod Speed Criminal LIAR and Arsehole

===============================>> >>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements to not
> >>>>>>> interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented
> >>>>>>> property
>
> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>
> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>
> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>
> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>
> >>> See S13 of the Act.
>
> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
> > Verbal and implied is fine
>
> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.
>
** Meaningless drivel.
Verbal arrangements ARE leases and so covered by the same laws.
The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.

> And if its verbal and/or implied, that term doesn’t have
> to be in it

** ROTFL wot a fucking hoot !!

Clauses and sub clauses in a verbal lease ??

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:37 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
>>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
>>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
>>
>> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>>
>> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>>
>> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>>
>> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>>
>> >>> See S13 of the Act.
>>
>> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.

>> > Verbal and implied is fine
>>
>> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.

> Verbal arrangements ARE leases

Wrong, as always. Leases have terms, verbal agreements
may or many not have any terms other than the amount
of the rent which has been agreed to be paid.

> and so covered by the same laws.

But that requirement is imposed by the law, as I said,
not by any lease agreement, fuckwit.

> The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.

But that requirement is imposed by the law, not by any
purported lease when there is no lease, verbal or implied.

There doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.

>> And if its verbal and/or implied, that term doesn’t have
>> to be in it
>
> ** ROTFL wot a fucking hoot !!
>
> Clauses and sub clauses in a verbal lease ??

What I said, fuckwit.

And there is still quiet enjoyment of common property available
to the renter even if the landlord does used the common property
along with all the other renters and property owners, fuckwit.

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Rod Speed just fucking LIES and LIES and LIES :
==================================>
> >>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
> >>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
> >>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
> >>
> >> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
> >>
> >> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
> >>
> >> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
> >> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
> >>
> >> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
> >>
> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.
> >>
> >> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
>
> >> > Verbal and implied is fine
> >>
> >> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.
> > Verbal arrangements ARE leases
>
> Wrong, as always.

** Shame what the actually Act says - fuckhead

> > and so covered by the same laws.

> > The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.
>
> But that requirement is imposed by the law, not by any
> purported lease when there is no lease, verbal or implied.

** LL are all bound by the same agreement, visible or not.
==========================================
> >> And if its verbal and/or implied, that term doesn’t have
> >> to be in it
> >
> > ** ROTFL wot a fucking hoot !!
> >
> > Clauses and sub clauses in a verbal lease ??

> What I said, fuckwit.

** What you said was INSANE - cunthead

> And there is still quiet enjoyment of common property available
> to the renter even if the landlord does used the common property
> along with all the other renters and property owners, fuckwit.
>

** Non interference with usage is the issue.
Same goes for tenant privacy too.

Leaving them a morsel is allowed..

FUCKWIT !!!

...... Phil

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Rod Speed just fucking LIES and LIES and LIES :
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Leaving them a morsel is NOT allowed..
FUCKWIT !!!

..... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:35 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
>> >>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
>> >>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>> >>
>> >> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>> >>
>> >> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>> >> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>> >>
>> >> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>> >>
>> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.
>> >>
>> >> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
>>
>> >> > Verbal and implied is fine
>> >>
>> >> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.

>> > Verbal arrangements ARE leases
>>
>> Wrong, as always.

> Shame what the actually Act says

Doesn’t say anything like that, or that that
clause is automatically included either, fuckwit.

>> > and so covered by the same laws.
>
>> > The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.
>>
>> But that requirement is imposed by the law, not by any
>> purported lease when there is no lease, verbal or implied.

> LL are all bound by the same agreement, visible or not.

Wrong, as always. They are free to have their own lease
agreement, and to not have any LEASE at all.

>> >> And if its verbal and/or implied, that term doesn’t have
>> >> to be in it
>> >
>> > ** ROTFL wot a fucking hoot !!
>> >
>> > Clauses and sub clauses in a verbal lease ??
>
>> What I said, fuckwit.

>> And there is still quiet enjoyment of common property available
>> to the renter even if the landlord does used the common property
>> along with all the other renters and property owners, fuckwit.

> Non interference with usage is the issue.

But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit.

> Same goes for tenant privacy too.

But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:37 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

> Leaving them a morsel is NOT allowed..

Wrong, as always with common property, fuckwit.

And there is no morsel anyway, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:42 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
>> >>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
>> >>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>> >>
>> >> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>> >>
>> >> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>> >> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>> >>
>> >> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>> >>
>> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.

Which doesn’t even have the word LEASE in it, fuckwit.

>> >> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
>>
>> >> > Verbal and implied is fine
>> >>
>> >> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.

>> > Verbal arrangements ARE leases
>>
>> Wrong, as always.

He's right, as always.

> Shame what the actually Act says - fuckhead

S13 doesn’t even have the word LEASE in it, fuckwit.

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More LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
==========================> >> >>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
> >> >>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
> >> >> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
> >> >>
> >> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
> >>
> >> >> > Verbal and implied is fine
> >> >>
> >> >> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.
>
> >> > Verbal arrangements ARE leases

> >> > The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.
> >>
> >> But that requirement is imposed by the law, not by any
> >> purported lease when there is no lease, verbal or implied.

> > LL are all bound by the same agreement, visible or not.

> Wrong, as always. They are free to have their own lease
> agreement, and to not have any LEASE at all.

** Shame Act says directly otherwise.
===========================
>
> >> What I said, fuckwit.
> >> And there is still quiet enjoyment of common property available
> >> to the renter even if the landlord does used the common property
> >> along with all the other renters and property owners, fuckwit.
>
> > Non interference with usage is the issue.
>
> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit

** Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.

Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
Same goes resources like gyms and pools.

> > Same goes for tenant privacy too.

> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
> property owners are also free to use the common property,

** Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.

The privacy requirements in the Act and standard rental agreement apply only to them.

........ Phil

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:35 UTC

Rod Speedbot LYING MORON wrote:
==============================>> >>
> >> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.

> Which doesn’t even have the word LEASE in it, fuckwit.

** ROTFLMAO !!!.

https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-2010-042#sec.13

FYI:

Everywhere in the RTA, the *more precise* term " residential tenancy agreement" is used.

S15 spells it out even more.

S50 (4) make the right to privacy etc COMPULSORY in any form of agreement being used.

The Rodbot MORON is just PISSING in the wind - as usual.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:43 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote

>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Residential LLs are restricted by their lease agreements
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to not interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" by tenants
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> of the rented property
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>>> By law, not by the lease agreement,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>> Section 7.1 & 7.2 on my lease agreement
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>> standard terms of the "agreement " always apply
>> >> >> >>>>> to lease arrangements, verbal or written.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> There doesn’t have to be any lease, fuckwit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Doesn’t have to be a lease, fuckwit.
>> >>
>> >> >> > Verbal and implied is fine
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Doesn’t have to be any lease at all, fuckwit.
>>
>> >> > Verbal arrangements ARE leases
>
>> >> > The terms in a "standard lease" are deemed to all apply.
>> >>
>> >> But that requirement is imposed by the law, not by any
>> >> purported lease when there is no lease, verbal or implied.
>
>> > LL are all bound by the same agreement, visible or not.
>
>> Wrong, as always. They are free to have their own lease
>> agreement, and to not have any LEASE at all.

> Shame Act says directly otherwise.

Bullshit it does. It says nothing of the
kind you silly little pathological liar.

>>>> And there is still quiet enjoyment of common property available
>>>> to the renter even if the landlord does used the common property
>>>> along with all the other renters and property owners, fuckwit.

>>> Non interference with usage is the issue.

>> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit

> Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.

Don’t need to be. Just like parking spaces in non strata
blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
"quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.

> Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
> spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.

Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.

> Same goes resources like gyms and pools.

Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
use them at all, use them quite differently to others
and have varying numbers of individuals occupying
the various flats and varying numbers of those who
work, are retired or are dole bludgers like you.

>>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.

>> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>> property owners are also free to use the common property,

> Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.

Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.

> The privacy requirements in the Act and standard
> rental agreement apply only to them.

But they aren't in breach of those if they own more than one unit
in a block and live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.

Same with individual houses. My next door neighbour who bought
the block of land next to mine and built a house on it because we
were next door neighbours in a block of flats we all rented units in,
was with his brothers a major farmer. He has now sold most of the
farming propertys and their water rights and has chosen to buy
some of the other neighbour's houses and rent them out when
he discovered that that gives a very good return on the cash he
ended up with when he sold the farming propertys. They are
all very observable from his place. Perfectly legal regardless
of you mindless pig ignorant bullshit about privacy.

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Rod Speed is a Totally Mental Arsehole wrote:
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> >>> Non interference with usage is the issue.
>
> >> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
> >> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>
> > Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>
> Just like parking spaces in non strata
> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.

** Drivel.

> > Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
> > spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>
> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.

** Fucking Absurd Drivel !!!!!.

> > Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>
> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
> use them at all,

** Still limited resources - sometimes very.

> >>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>
> >> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
> >> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>
> > Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>
> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.

** Then that LL has to be *very* careful.

But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole LLs showing up from many miles away on regular basis and using facilities their tenants and other residents have priority use over.

Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference* !!!

If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and leave.
Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.

Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 00:16 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >> >> >>> See S13 of the Act.

>> Which doesn’t even have the word LEASE in it, fuckwit.

> https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-2010-042#sec.13

Like I said, doesn’t even have the word LEASE in it, fuckwit.

> FYI:

> Everywhere in the RTA, the *more precise* term " residential tenancy
> agreement" is used.

An agreement isn't necessarily a LEASE, fuckwit.

> S15 spells it out even more.

Bullshit it does with the world LEASE.

> S50 (4) make the right to privacy etc COMPULSORY in any form of agreement
> being used.

But that does not mean that the landlord can not use any
of the common property of the block, most obviously
when the landlord has his own principle residence in the
same block as another units he also rents out, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 03:17 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >>> Non interference with usage is the issue.

>> >> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>> >> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>>
>> > Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>>
>> Just like parking spaces in non strata
>> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
>> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.
>>
>> > Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
>> > spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>>
>> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.
>>
>> > Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>>
>> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
>> use them at all,

> Still limited resources - sometimes very.

But there is no legal prevention of the landlord using them.

>> >>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>>
>> >> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>> >> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>>
>> > Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>>
>> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
>> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.
>
> Then that LL has to be *very* careful.

Nope, because there is no loss of privacy
involved with the use of common property
and NCAT has never ever breached even a
single landlord in that situation.

> But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole
> LLs showing up from many miles away on regular
> basis and using facilities their tenants and other
> residents have priority use over.

There is no priority use involved, you
pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

> Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference* !!!

But not interference as far as the residential tenancy act is concerned.

> If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and leave.

Wrong, as always.

> Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.

They can seek all they like, NCAT has never ever actually been
stupid enough to restrain even a single landlord for that.

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 by: Max - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 03:57 UTC

On 2/11/2021 11:10 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Rod Speed is a Totally Mental Arsehole wrote:
> ================================
>>
>>>>> Non interference with usage is the issue.
>>
>>>> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>>
>>> Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>>
>> Just like parking spaces in non strata
>> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
>> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.
>
> ** Drivel.
>
>>> Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
>>> spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>>
>> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.
>
> ** Fucking Absurd Drivel !!!!!.
>
>>> Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>>
>> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
>> use them at all,
>
> ** Still limited resources - sometimes very.
>
>>>>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>>
>>>> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>>
>>> Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>>
>> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
>> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.
>
> ** Then that LL has to be *very* careful.
>
> But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole LLs showing up from many miles away on regular basis and using facilities their tenants and other residents have priority use over.
>
> Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference* !!!
>
> If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and leave.
> Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.
>
> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
>
>

If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
he/she is.

Landlords like to be in the same building as their tenants because they
like to lord it over the tenants.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 04:22 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> Non interference with usage is the issue.
>>>
>>>>> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>>>
>>>> Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>>>
>>> Just like parking spaces in non strata
>>> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
>>> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>>> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.
>>
>> ** Drivel.
>>
>>>> Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
>>>> spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>>>
>>> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.
>>
>> ** Fucking Absurd Drivel !!!!!.
>>
>>>> Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>>>
>>> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
>>> use them at all,
>>
>> ** Still limited resources - sometimes very.
>>
>>>>>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>>>
>>>>> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>>>
>>>> Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>>>
>>> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
>>> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.
>>
>> ** Then that LL has to be *very* careful.
>>
>> But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole LLs showing up from
>> many miles away on regular basis and using facilities their tenants and
>> other residents have priority use over.
>>
>> Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference* !!!
>>
>> If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and leave.
>> Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.
>>
>> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.

> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
> he/she is.

Yeah, you can certainly do that a lot better than any agent can.

Main contra is that if they who the landlord is, some arsehole
like Filthy can show up with every little whinge they have about
the unit and it isn't feasible to stop that happening unless you
don’t let them know who is the landlord.

Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.

> Landlords like to be in the same building as their tenants because they
> like to lord it over the tenants.

Plenty of them don’t because they don’t want to be
hassled about anything they don’t like with the unit.

My mate obviously does want to be able to keep an
eye on the houses he owns and rents out and can do
that easily because they are very close to the house
he lives in himself. Another one of out mates has
just moved to a new for him house and has the
previous one between the house my mate lives
in and one of the houses he owns and rents out
and it will be interesting to see if he buys that too.
Very high price tho. House prices are really booming
here at the moment and it will be interesting to see
what it sells for. We have basically doubled the price
of the one we rent out in only a few years and there
is no sign of the boom slowing down here yet.

The one we bought is more than paying for itself
with the rental income and the capital gain is
a magnificent bonus. Another mate of mine who
lives in Coffs, buys houses here and rents them out.
The rental market here is a tight as a drum with renters
very desperate for a place to rent. With lots of new
houses being built in the new subdivisions too.

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 by: Max - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 04:47 UTC

On 2/11/2021 3:22 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>>>> Non interference with usage is the issue.
>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>>>>
>>>>> Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>>>>
>>>> Just like parking spaces in non strata
>>>> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
>>>> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>>>> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.
>>>
>>> **  Drivel.
>>>
>>>>> Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
>>>>> spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>>>>
>>>> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.
>>>
>>> **  Fucking Absurd Drivel  !!!!!.
>>>
>>>>> Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>>>>
>>>> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
>>>> use them at all,
>>>
>>> **  Still limited resources  - sometimes very.
>>>
>>>>>>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>>>>
>>>>> Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
>>>> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> **  Then that  LL has to be *very* careful.
>>>
>>> But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole LLs showing up from
>>> many miles away on regular basis and using facilities their tenants
>>> and other residents have priority use over.
>>>
>>> Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference*  !!!
>>>
>>> If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and
>>> leave.
>>> Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.
>>>
>>> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
>
>> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
>> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
>> he/she is.
>
> Yeah, you can certainly do that a lot better than any agent can.
>
> Main contra is that if they who the landlord is, some arsehole
> like Filthy can show up with every little whinge they have about
> the unit and it isn't feasible to stop that happening unless you
> don’t let them know who is the landlord.
>
> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.
>
>> Landlords like to be in the same building as their tenants because
>> they like to lord it over the tenants.
>
> Plenty of them don’t because they don’t want to be
> hassled about anything they don’t like with the unit.
>
> My mate obviously does want to be able to keep an
> eye on the houses he owns and rents out and can do
> that easily because they are very close to the house
> he lives in himself. Another one of out mates has
> just moved to a new for him house and has the
> previous one between the house my mate lives
> in and one of the houses he owns and rents out
> and it will be interesting to see if he buys that too.
> Very high price tho. House prices are really booming
> here at the moment and it will be interesting to see
> what it sells for. We have basically doubled the price
> of the one we rent out in only a few years and there
> is no sign of the boom slowing down here yet.
>
> The one we bought is more than paying for itself
> with the rental  income and the capital gain is
> a magnificent bonus. Another mate of mine who
> lives in Coffs, buys houses here and rents them out.
> The rental market here is a tight as a drum with renters
> very desperate for a place to rent. With lots of new
> houses being built in the new subdivisions too.

Some people like being landlords because they like the feeling of having
power over people's lives.

I have relatives who are quite well off who have never been a landlord.
There are other investments to put money in.

Some people don't want to be landlords because they don't want to be the
owner of another person's home and the class divide that that creates.

It is generally recommended that you only invest 25% of your investments
in property. People who have all or most of their invesments in
property clearly get a kick out of being landlords and lording it over
their tenants.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 05:01 UTC

Max wrote:
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> > Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
> >
> >
> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
> he/she is.

** What you want is basically illegal.
Like every post you put here.

FUCK OFF TROLL

...... Phil

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Max the MORON TROLL wrote:
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> Some people like being landlords because they like the feeling of having
> power over people's lives.
>

** Like the Rodbot Fucking Maniac Does
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> It is generally recommended that you only invest 25% of your investments
> in property.

** By whom ? Investment scammers.
> People who have all or most of their invesments in
> property clearly get a kick out of being landlords and lording it over
> their tenants.
>

** 90% use arsehole property managers to do the dirty work for them.

They get to do all the bullying - for a living !!!.

....... Phil

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 05:23 UTC

Rod Speed Is One Hell of a Criminal LAIR wrote:
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> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.
>

** There must be an identifiable, real name for the LL on the Tenancy Agreement.

It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.

LLs must also supply contact info as well - phone, email or home address.
It's a breach of the agreement to supply unusable ones like Rod does.

Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close or next door before signing with an agent.

....... Phil

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