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 by: Max - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 05:39 UTC

On 2/11/2021 4:01 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
> =======
>>
>>> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
>>>
>>>
>> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
>> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
>> he/she is.
>
> ** What you want is basically illegal.
> Like every post you put here.
>

It is not illegal to observe people in the same strata building that you
live in.

You could even converse with said people in the gym or pool area.

They may not even know you are their landlord.

They might guess based on your first name, but there is no need to tell
them any more.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:21 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>> Non interference with usage is the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is no interference given that all the other tenants and
>>>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property, fuckwit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Insanely false, facilities on common property are not *infinite*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like parking spaces in non strata
>>>>> blocks aren't, but still provide no interference with the
>>>>> "quiet enjoyment" by tenants of the rented property
>>>>> and don’t see landlords breached with NCAT.
>>>>
>>>> ** Drivel.
>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few bins, clothes lines and visitor parking
>>>>>> spaces exist, enough to cater for residents alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mindlessly silly with all blocks of units.
>>>>
>>>> ** Fucking Absurd Drivel !!!!!.
>>>>
>>>>>> Same goes resources like gyms and pools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even more mindlessly silly given that plenty don’t
>>>>> use them at all,
>>>>
>>>> ** Still limited resources - sometimes very.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same goes for tenant privacy too.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is no loss of privacy given that all the other tenants and
>>>>>>> property owners are also free to use the common property,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Insanely false - neighbours in the same block are not one's LLs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty of landlords have more than one unit in the block,
>>>>> live in one of them and rent out the others, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> ** Then that LL has to be *very* careful.
>>>>
>>>> But that scenario has nothing to do with arsehole LLs showing up from
>>>> many miles away on regular basis and using facilities their tenants and
>>>> other residents have priority use over.
>>>>
>>>> Conflicts are bound to happen and that is *interference* !!!
>>>>
>>>> If bad enough, a tenant would be entitled to break their lease and
>>>> leave.
>>>> Or, seek an NCAT order to restrain the interfering LL.
>>>>
>>>> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
>>
>>> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
>>> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
>>> he/she is.
>>
>> Yeah, you can certainly do that a lot better than any agent can.
>>
>> Main contra is that if they who the landlord is, some arsehole
>> like Filthy can show up with every little whinge they have about
>> the unit and it isn't feasible to stop that happening unless you
>> don’t let them know who is the landlord.
>>
>> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
>> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.
>>
>>> Landlords like to be in the same building as their tenants because they
>>> like to lord it over the tenants.
>>
>> Plenty of them don’t because they don’t want to be
>> hassled about anything they don’t like with the unit.
>>
>> My mate obviously does want to be able to keep an
>> eye on the houses he owns and rents out and can do
>> that easily because they are very close to the house
>> he lives in himself. Another one of out mates has
>> just moved to a new for him house and has the
>> previous one between the house my mate lives
>> in and one of the houses he owns and rents out
>> and it will be interesting to see if he buys that too.
>> Very high price tho. House prices are really booming
>> here at the moment and it will be interesting to see
>> what it sells for. We have basically doubled the price
>> of the one we rent out in only a few years and there
>> is no sign of the boom slowing down here yet.
>>
>> The one we bought is more than paying for itself
>> with the rental income and the capital gain is
>> a magnificent bonus. Another mate of mine who
>> lives in Coffs, buys houses here and rents them out.
>> The rental market here is a tight as a drum with renters
>> very desperate for a place to rent. With lots of new
>> houses being built in the new subdivisions too.

> Some people like being landlords because they like the feeling of having
> power over people's lives.

Sure, specially with slumlords.

> I have relatives who are quite well off who have never been a landlord.
> There are other investments to put money in.

Hard to get similar returns with no skill required tho.

> Some people don't want to be landlords because they don't want to be the
> owner of another person's home and the class divide that that creates.

Sure, but that’s a minority of leftys.

More don’t want to be landlords because of the
risk that an arsehole tenant will trash the place.

Hell of a lot of local houses have been quite literally burnt
to the ground, in spaces in the housing commission area
infested with abos we call vegemite valley. Even the commission
doesn’t bother to replace the burnt out houses.

> It is generally recommended that you only invest 25% of your investments
> in property.

That’s mindlessly superficial, particularly if you
don’t know anything about the stock market etc.

You can certainly use mutual funds etc but selecting
the best to use isn't that easy. And another alternative
is making voluntary extra super contributions, but even
that isn't easy and they are locked in. The others aren't.

> People who have all or most of their invesments in property clearly get a
> kick out of being landlords and lording it over their tenants.

Plenty do it because the only thing you need to do is select
the house you want to rent out and anyone can do that.
But even that isn't trivial because it requires a large chunk
of money or a mortgage etc.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:23 UTC

Max the Illiterate IDIOT wrote:
====================
>>
> >>> Particularly with an utter fucking scumbag like you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same building as the
> >> tenant, so I can keep an eye on the tenant and see what sort of person
> >> he/she is.
> >
> > ** What you want is basically illegal.
> > Like every post you put here.
> >
> It is not illegal to observe people in the same strata building that you
> live in.

** Nothing to do with what you wrote above - fuckhead.

> They may not even know you are their landlord.

** Fat chance of that - fuckhead.


....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:49 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> If I were a landlord I would like to live in the same
>> building as the tenant, so I can keep an eye on the
>> tenant and see what sort of person he/she is.
> What you want is basically illegal.

Wrong, as always.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:56 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> Some people like being landlords because they
>> like the feeling of having power over people's lives.

> Like the Rod does

Wrong, as always.

>> It is generally recommended that you only
>> invest 25% of your investments in property.
> By whom ?

The most professional financial advisors like Noel Whittaker.

> Investment scammers.

Nope.
>> People who have all or most of their invesments
>> in property clearly get a kick out of being
>> landlords and lording it over their tenants.

> 90% use arsehole property managers to do the dirty work for them.
> They get to do all the bullying - for a living !!!.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:59 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
>> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.

> There must be an identifiable, real name for the LL on the Tenancy
> Agreement.

But that doesn’t have to allow the tenant to
work out where the landlord lives or who it is.

> It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.

> LLs must also supply contact info as well - phone, email or home
> address.

But they are free to use a mobile number and never answer it or the email.

>Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close
> or next door before signing with an agent.

Wrong, as always.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:45 UTC

Rod Speed wrote More and More and More LIES !!

===============================

> >> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
> >> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.
>
> > There must be an identifiable, real name for the LL on the Tenancy
> > Agreement.
>>
> > It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.
>
> > LLs must also supply contact info as well - phone, email or home
> > address.
>
> But they are free to use a mobile number and never answer it or the email.

** BULL CRAP

> >Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close
> > or next door before signing with an agent.
>
> Wrong, as always.

** Rodbot CRAP.

....... Phil

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 by: Max - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:20 UTC

On 2/11/2021 4:23 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Rod Speed Is One Hell of a Criminal LAIR wrote:
> =====================================
>>
>> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
>> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.
>>
>
> ** There must be an identifiable, real name for the LL on the Tenancy Agreement.
>
> It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.
>

In any legal situation a person can use an agent. Why can't the
landlord use an agent in this situation?

> LLs must also supply contact info as well - phone, email or home address.
> It's a breach of the agreement to supply unusable ones like Rod does.
>

If the landlord uses an agent, as they can in any legal situation, then
why can't they supply the contact details of the agent?

> Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close or next door before signing with an agent.
>

That is not entirely clear. Why should it matter to a tenant whether
the landlord is close or next door?

>
>
> ...... Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:26 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
>>>> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.

>>> There must be an identifiable, real name
>>> for the LL on the Tenancy Agreement.

>>> It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.

>>> LLs must also supply contact info as well
>>> - phone, email or home address.

>> But they are free to use a mobile number and never answer it or the
>> email.

> BULL CRAP

FACT and are free to tell arsehole tenants like
yourself that they have to deal with the agent.

>>>Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close
>>> or next door before signing with an agent.

>> Wrong, as always.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:32 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Filthy will now pig ignorantly claim that the landlord always
>>> has to tell you who they are but that is a bare faced lie.

>> There must be an identifiable, real name for the LL on the Tenancy
>> Agreement.

>> It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.

That doesn’t mean that where the landlord lives has to be disclosed.

> In any legal situation a person can use an agent. Why can't the landlord
> use an agent in this situation?

Because the landlord is who the agreement is with.

>> LLs must also supply contact info as well - phone, email or home
>> address.

But that doesn’t spell out where the landlord lives.

>> It's a breach of the agreement to supply unusable ones like Rod does.

Mine works fine.

> If the landlord uses an agent, as they can in any legal situation, then
> why can't they supply the contact details of the agent?

They can and do. But that’s a separate matter
to who the rental agreement is with.

>> Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close or next door before
>> signing with an agent.

That is a bare faced lie.

> That is not entirely clear. Why should it matter to a tenant whether the
> landlord is close or next door?

The landlord can obviously observe the tenants behaviour.

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Max has No Brain at All wrote:

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>
> > It cannot be the name of an agent - cos the agreement is not with them.
> >
> In any legal situation a person can use an agent.
> Why can't the landlord use an agent in this situation?

** They can and do.
The agent signs on BEHALF of the LL, not as a substitute party.

> If the landlord uses an agent, as they can in any legal situation, then
> why can't they supply the contact details of the agent?

** Both are needed - fuckwit.

Because an agent can disappear or be changed at whim, they cannot be parties to the contract.

> > Tenants are entitled to know if the LL lives close or next door before signing with an agent.
> >
> That is not entirely clear. Why should it matter to a tenant whether
> the landlord is close or next door?

** Cos a snooping, retarded, malicious prick like YOU might be the LL.

....... Phil

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Rod Speedbot BULLSHITTED wrote:
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> >> But they are free to use a mobile number and never answer it or the
> >> email.
>>
> > BULL CRAP
>
> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.

** No they are not.

Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 15:44 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
>>>> and never answer it or the email.

>>> BULL CRAP
>> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.

> No they are not.

Corse they are.
> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!

Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.

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Rod Spedbot is an Arsehole Landlord.
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>
> >>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
> >>>> and never answer it or the email.
>
> >>> BULL CRAP
>
> >> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.
> > No they are not.
>
> Corse they are.
> > Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
>
> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.

** ROTFL !!

FFS Rod needs to stop posting IRRELEVANT *red- herring* comments

Only does that when has has no case.
Which is 99.5 % of the time.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 20:50 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
>>>>>> and never answer it or the email.

>>>>> BULL CRAP

>>>> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.

>>> No they are not.

>> Corse they are.

>>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!

>> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.

There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
any at all, ever. The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.

That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 21:05 UTC

Rod Ex-Speed Cop & Charlatan wrote:

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> >>>>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
> >>>>>> and never answer it or the email.
>
> >>>>> BULL CRAP
>
> >>>> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.
>
> >>> No they are not.
>
> >> Corse they are.
>
> >>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
>
> >> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.
>
> There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
> any at all, ever.

** Massive *RED HERRING* - Rod.
Was never the question.

> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.

** Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.

Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants, collecting rent etc.

> That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.

** That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.

"arsehoee " = 95% in both cases.

....... Phil

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 by: Max - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 21:52 UTC

On 3/11/2021 8:05 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Rod Ex-Speed Cop & Charlatan wrote:
>
> ==========================
>>
>>>>>>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
>>>>>>>> and never answer it or the email.
>>
>>>>>>> BULL CRAP
>>
>>>>>> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.
>>
>>>>> No they are not.
>>
>>>> Corse they are.
>>
>>>>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
>>
>>>> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.
>>
>> There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
>> any at all, ever.
>
> ** Massive *RED HERRING* - Rod.
> Was never the question.
>
>> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.
>
> ** Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.
>
> Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants, collecting rent etc.
>
>
> > That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.
>
> ** That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.
>
> "arsehoee " = 95% in both cases.
>

The real question is why you want to know who and where the LL is? Do
you want to bother them?

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 21:58 UTC

Max the Fuckwit wrote:
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>>
> >>>>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
> >>
> >>>> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.
> >>
> >> There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
> >> any at all, ever.
> >
> > ** Massive *RED HERRING* - Rod.
> > Was never the question.
> >
> >> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.
> >
> > ** Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.
> >
> > Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants, collecting rent etc.
> >
> >
> > > That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.
> >
> > ** That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.
> >
> > "arsehoee " = 95% in both cases.
> >
> The real question is why you want to know who and where the LL is? Do
> you want to bother them?

** The law is clear that a tenant must know the name of their LL and able able to contact them.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:11 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>>> But they are free to use a mobile number
>>>>>>>>> and never answer it or the email.
>>>
>>>>>>>> BULL CRAP
>>>
>>>>>>> FACT and are free to tell tenants they have to deal with the agent.
>>>
>>>>>> No they are not.
>>>
>>>>> Corse they are.
>>>
>>>>>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
>>>
>>>>> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.
>>>
>>> There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
>>> any at all, ever.
>>
>>> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.
>>
>> Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.

The agent has the legal power to do anything the landlord decides to have
them do.

>> Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants,
>> collecting rent etc.

Wrong, as always. They are free to kick the tenants out who
are in breach of the tenancy agreement etc etc etc too.

>>> That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.

>> That is a huge Myth

Bullshit. It’s a fact.

> promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.

Most landlords prefer to pay someone to do that stuff.

> The real question is why you want to know who and where the LL is? Do you
> want to bother them?

Corse he does and did.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:14 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> >>>>> Agents are not parties to the contract - they ARE !!
>> >>
>> >>>> Irrelevant to who gets to do the stuff like inspections etc.
>> >>
>> >> There is no legal requirement that the landlord personally does
>> >> any at all, ever.
>> >
>> > ** Massive *RED HERRING* - Rod.
>> > Was never the question.
>> >
>> >> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.
>> >
>> > ** Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.
>> >
>> > Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants,
>> > collecting rent etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > > That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.
>> >
>> >
>> The real question is why you want to know who and where the LL is? Do
>> you want to bother them?

> The law is clear that a tenant must know the name of their LL

Wrong, as always.

> and able able to contact them.

But the landlord is free to ignore any attempt to contact the landlord and
is free
to tell the tenant to deal with the agent. That’s what the agent is there
for, fuckwit.

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Rod Speed is 1000 times BEYOND INSANE wrote:
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> >>> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.
> >>
> >> Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.
>
> The agent has the legal power to do anything the landlord decides to have
> them do.

** Then the LL must be making all the decisions.
========================================

> >> Agents can only contract for day to day stuff - finding tenants,
> >> collecting rent etc.
>
> Wrong, as always. They are free to kick the tenants out who
> are in breach of the tenancy agreement etc etc etc too.

** Nope.

That is purely for NCAT to do, after hearing the matter from both sides.

> >>> That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.
> >> That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.
>
> Most landlords prefer to pay someone to do that stuff.

** Like paying for a contract murder - eh ?

Most LLs and agents are criminals.

....... Phil

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INSANE LIAR & ARSEHOLE Rod Speed wrote:

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>
> > The law is clear that a tenant must know the name of their LL
> > and able able to contact them.
>
> But the landlord is free to ignore any attempt to contact the landlord

** Nope - that is illegal.

> to tell the tenant to deal with the agent.

** Only for everyday matters, not important decisions.

FOAD - you vile psychopath.


....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:33 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>> The landlord is free to have an agent do everything.

>>>> Except make *decisions* only they have legal power to.

>> The agent has the legal power to do anything
>> the landlord decides to have them do.

> Then the LL must be making all the decisions.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
The landlord is free tell the agent to make all the decisions.

>>>> Agents can only contract for day to day
>>>> stuff - finding tenants, collecting rent etc.

>> Wrong, as always. They are free to kick the tenants out who
>> are in breach of the tenancy agreement etc etc etc too.

> Nope.

Yep.

> That is purely for NCAT to do, after hearing the matter from both sides.

Wrong, as always. NCAT does not have to get involved,
most obviously when the tenant stops paying the rent
or flouts one of the provisions of the tenancy agreement
like sub letting the property.

>>>>> That’s the whole point of real estate agents, fuckwit.

>>>> That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.

>> Most landlords prefer to pay someone to do that stuff.

<reams of your even more stupid shit than usual flushed where it belongs>

> Most LLs and agents are criminals.

How odd that NCAT rules otherwise.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:36 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> The law is clear that a tenant must know the name of their LL
>>> and able able to contact them.

>> But the landlord is free to ignore any attempt to contact the landlord

> Nope - that is illegal.

Have fun listing the bit of the act that says that.

>> to tell the tenant to deal with the agent.

> Only for everyday matters, not important decisions.

Wrong, as always. The landlord is free to have the agent make all decisions.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:50 UTC

Rod Speed MASSIVE CRIMINAL & LIAR :
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> The landlord is free tell the agent to make all the decisions.

** Have to formally give " power of attorney" to a RE for that idea to be legal.
Never happens.

> >> Wrong, as always. They are free to kick the tenants out who
> >> are in breach of the tenancy agreement etc etc etc too.
>
> > Nope.
> > > That is purely for NCAT to do, after hearing the matter from both sides.
>
> Wrong, as always. NCAT does not have to get involved,
> most obviously when the tenant stops paying the rent

** ROTFLMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rods knows FUCKING NOTHING about renting law.
> or flouts one of the provisions of the tenancy agreement
> like sub letting the property.

** Also an exclusively NCAT matter.

> >>>> That is a huge Myth promoted by arsehole agents to arsehole LLs.
>
> >> Most landlords prefer to pay someone to do that stuff.
> > Most LLs and agents are criminals.
>
> How odd that NCAT rules otherwise.

** LOL - what desperate LYING Rodbot drivel !!!!

...... Phil

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