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 by: JeSSe - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:09 UTC

Fucked - Yes !
No more commie flagship for the Black Sea, lets hope lots of invaders
went down with it as well.

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Ingenious ruse that blew apart Russia's flagship: Sunk by the
Ukrainians, warship hit by a pair of 1-ton missiles that sparked
spectacular explosion in ammo store - after Putin's crew were distracted
by decoy drones

Ukrainian commanders destroyed the Moskva warship with pair of
1-ton missiles
Turkish TB2 drones were used to distract the defence systems before
the strike
The 12,500-ton cruiser’s sensors seemingly did not see the Neptune
rockets

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720267/Ingenious-ruse-blew-apart-Russias-flagship-Warship-sunk-pair-missiles-Ukrainians.html
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On 15/04/2022 02:09, JeSSe wrote:
> Fucked - Yes !
> No more commie flagship for the Black Sea, lets hope lots of invaders
> went down with it as well.
>
> `````````````````
>
>
> Ingenious ruse that blew apart Russia's flagship: Sunk by the
> Ukrainians, warship hit by a pair of 1-ton missiles that sparked
> spectacular explosion in ammo store - after Putin's crew were distracted
> by decoy drones
>
>     Ukrainian commanders destroyed the Moskva warship with pair of
> 1-ton missiles
>     Turkish TB2 drones were used to distract the defence systems before
> the strike
>     The 12,500-ton cruiser’s sensors seemingly did not see the Neptune
> rockets
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720267/Ingenious-ruse-blew-apart-Russias-flagship-Warship-sunk-pair-missiles-Ukrainians.html
>

Russia has started bombing the site near Kiev that makes the Neptune
anti-ship missiles. That's as close to confirmation as we'll probably
ever get from them.

I've heard concern on the net that the ship had nuclear weapons on board
but that would seem like a waste of space if they can't actually use
them but that's just a thought not fact. If we see a massive recovery
operation in the area we'll know I was probably wrong.

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 by: JeSSe - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:41 UTC

TWP wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 02:09, JeSSe wrote:
>> Fucked - Yes !
>> No more commie flagship for the Black Sea, lets hope lots of invaders
>> went down with it as well.
>>
>> `````````````````
>>
>>
>> Ingenious ruse that blew apart Russia's flagship: Sunk by the
>> Ukrainians, warship hit by a pair of 1-ton missiles that sparked
>> spectacular explosion in ammo store - after Putin's crew were
>> distracted by decoy drones
>>
>>      Ukrainian commanders destroyed the Moskva warship with pair of
>> 1-ton missiles
>>      Turkish TB2 drones were used to distract the defence systems
>> before the strike
>>      The 12,500-ton cruiser’s sensors seemingly did not see the
>> Neptune rockets
>>
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720267/Ingenious-ruse-blew-apart-Russias-flagship-Warship-sunk-pair-missiles-Ukrainians.html
>>
>
> Russia has started bombing the site near Kiev that makes the Neptune
> anti-ship missiles.  That's as close to confirmation as we'll probably
> ever get from them.

Having a ship in times of war sail on the same restricted pattern every
day for over a month and sailing without an escort is either a sign of
massive over confidence or sheer stupidity.
In Russias case, I think its a healthy bit of both.

>
> I've heard concern on the net that the ship had nuclear weapons on board
> but that would seem like a waste of space if they can't actually use
> them but that's just a thought not fact.  If we see a massive recovery
> operation in the area we'll know I was probably wrong.
>
Far as I have heard, it was capable of using them.
Any recovery ships would be subject to attack as well, unless a truce
can be arraigned. I don't see them posing any particular immediate hazard.

I'm wondering if they used UK supplied Harpoons instead and the Neptunes
are just a cover. Seems odd that they would wait a full 2 months to take
a shot if they had these all along.
Also seems probable that they were helped by US/NATO intel - Quite a
challenge to hit a moving target at night 60 miles away, I would not
have thought Ukraine alone would be up to the task.

Just speculation and in any case, great shot !

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 by: Jesse - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:11 UTC

JeSSe wrote:

> Also seems probable that they were helped by US/NATO intel - Quite a
> challenge to hit a moving target at night 60 miles away, I would not
> have thought Ukraine alone would be up to the task.

Could have been feeding intel to UKES, maybe not.
US intelligence assets are obviously saturating the entire area and have
been for quite some time.

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US maritime surveillance plane was over Black Sea minutes before Russian
flagship Moskva was ‘hit by Ukrainian missiles’

A P-8 Poseidon surveillance aircraft was patrolling the coast
before the attack
The high-tech jet can spot ships on radar at ranges of more than
100 miles
Ukraine sunk Moskva after firing two Neptune anti-ship missiles on
April 13

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10733677/Moskva-sinking-Did-supply-Kyiv-location-Black-Sea-flag-ship.html

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