<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>

If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.

This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
have a needle stuck into her arm.

Sadly, while the concern here is that the teenager did not get a
vaccination, the assault consists of sticking a needle into someone with
no more than short term consequences. Such an assault is at the low end
of the scale, and the damages and punishment would presumably reflect that.

I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work as
a nurse again.

Sylvia.

Stupider than Anyone Else wrote:
=========================
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>
> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.

** Huh ???

> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
> have a needle stuck into her arm.

** ROTFL wot a hoot.

The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the deal.
Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.

> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work as
> a nurse again.

** Seen nurses doing a lot worse.

...... Phil

On 08-Nov-21 2:28 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Stupider than Anyone Else wrote:
> =========================
>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>
>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.
>
> ** Huh ???
>
>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>
> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>
> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the deal.
> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.

The issue here is that the nurse's conduct rather strongly points to
this being deliberate. It's not just a simple breach of contract due to
incompetence or negligence.

Sylvia.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Else wrote

>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>
>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.
>
> ** Huh ???
>
>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>
> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>
> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the deal.
> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.

They are always free, fuckwit.

>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work as
>> a nurse again.

> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.

Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.

On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 15:00:51 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> Else wrote
>
>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>
>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.
>>
>> ** Huh ???
>>
>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>
>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>
>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the deal.
>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>
>They are always free, fuckwit.
>
>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work as
>>> a nurse again.
>
>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>
>Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.

I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just to shoot up with
them (the pain killers that is).
And some are curt and rude.

Stupider than Anyone Else wrote:
=========================
>
> >> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
> >> have a needle stuck into her arm.
> >
> > ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
> >
> > The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the deal.
> > Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>
> The issue here is that the nurse's conduct rather strongly points to
> this being deliberate.

** Irrelevant. Contract breaches often are

> It's not just a simple breach of contract due to
> incompetence or negligence.
>

** The contract was NOT with the damn nurse - idiot.

........ Phil

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Else wrote

>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>
>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal assault.
>>>
>>> ** Huh ???
>>>
>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>
>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>
>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the
>>> deal.
>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>
>>They are always free, fuckwit.
>>
>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work as
>>>> a nurse again.
>>
>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>
>>Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.

> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).

Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the vaccination
tho.

> And some are curt and rude.

Some are indeed.

On 8/11/2021 5:05 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Else wrote
>
>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>> assault.
>>>>
>>>> **  Huh  ???
>>>>
>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>
>>>> ** ROTFL   wot a hoot.
>>>>
>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the
>>>> deal.
>>>> Contract not completed  -  one free vaccine jab required.
>>>
>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never
>>>>> work as
>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>
>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>
>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>
>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>
> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
> vaccination tho.
>

The woman has been charged with fraud, but the definition of fraud is
gaining by dishonesty.

So what did she gain by doing it?

>> And some are curt and rude.
>
> Some are indeed.

Max wrote:
=========
>
> So what did she gain by doing it?

** Her pay ?

The charge will never wash in court.

....... Phil

On 8/11/2021 8:50 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
> =========
>>
>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>
> ** Her pay ?
>
> The charge will never wash in court.
>

There is a back story to this woman:

https://reasonablehank.com/2013/08/31/anti-vaccine-chiropractors-38/

Mentioned here: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/9p8qvj69?p=429#r8567

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Else wrote

>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of action
>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>>> assault.
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Huh ???
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>
>>>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the
>>>>> deal.
>>>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>
>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never work
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>
>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>
>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>
>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>> vaccination tho.

> The woman has been charged with fraud,

Yes.

> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.

That’s just one type of fraud.

> So what did she gain by doing it?

That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.

>>> And some are curt and rude.

>> Some are indeed.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> So what did she gain by doing it?
> Her pay ?

Which she would have got if she had done the injection properly.
> The charge will never wash in court.

We'll see...

Rod Speedbot Total MORON wrote:
============================
>
> > Max wrote
> >> So what did she gain by doing it?
> > Her pay ?
>
> Which she would have got if she had done the injection properly.
>
** ROTFL - wot an imbecile

The nurse got paid by *pretending* to to her job.

Like most public servant do all the time.

...... Phil

Rod Speed wrote:
================> Max <m...@val.morgan> wrote

> > The woman has been charged with fraud,
> Yes.
>
> > but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
> That’s just one type of fraud.

** Name the others.

Go on - I dare you.

..... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max wrote

>>>> So what did she gain by doing it?

>>> Her pay ?

>> Which she would have got if she had done the injection properly.

> The nurse got paid by *pretending* to to her job.

She got paid to do the vaccination properly and chose to play silly buggers
because she is a stupid anti vaxer and will have her license cancelled.

On 9/11/2021 4:39 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Else wrote
>
>>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of
>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>>>> assault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **  Huh  ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not to
>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** ROTFL   wot a hoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half
>>>>>> the deal.
>>>>>> Contract not completed  -  one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never
>>>>>>> work as
>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>
>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>
>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>> vaccination tho.
>
>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>
> Yes.
>
>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>
> That’s just one type of fraud.
>

That's the only thing fraud is.

>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>
> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>
>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>
>>> Some are indeed.
>
>

Max wrote:
=========>
> >> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
> >
> > That’s just one type of fraud.
> >
> That's the only thing fraud is.
>

** The Rodbot idiot has always been wrong about what criminal fraud is.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Else wrote

>>>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of
>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>>>>> assault.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** Huh ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half the
>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never
>>>>>>>> work as
>>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>>
>>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>>> vaccination tho.
>>
>>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>>
>> That’s just one type of fraud.

> That's the only thing fraud is.

You are wrong, as always. Most obviously with what
that stupid cow did and pretending to be someone
else in usenet etc.

>>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>>
>> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>>
>>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>>
>>>> Some are indeed.

On 9/11/2021 9:44 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Else wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of
>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>>>>>> assault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **  Huh  ???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination,
>>>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** ROTFL   wot a hoot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half
>>>>>>>> the deal.
>>>>>>>> Contract not completed  -  one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never
>>>>>>>>> work as
>>>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>>>> vaccination tho.
>>>
>>>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>>>
>>> That’s just one type of fraud.
>
>> That's the only thing fraud is.
>
> You are wrong, as always. Most obviously with what
> that stupid cow did and pretending to be someone
> else in usenet etc.
>

It is not fraud to impersonate someone on usenet, if you don't gain
anything of value by doing it.

There are certain laws about impersonating a police officer etc, but
that is not 'fraud'.

>>>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>>>
>>> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>>>
>>>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>>>
>>>>> Some are indeed.
>
>

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Else wrote

>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause of
>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious liability, for
>>>>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with criminal
>>>>>>>>>> assault.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** Huh ???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination, not
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got half
>>>>>>>>> the deal.
>>>>>>>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and never
>>>>>>>>>> work as
>>>>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>>>>> vaccination tho.
>>>>
>>>>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>>>>
>>>> That’s just one type of fraud.
>>
>>> That's the only thing fraud is.
>>
>> You are wrong, as always. Most obviously with what
>> that stupid cow did and pretending to be someone
>> else in usenet etc.

> It is not fraud to impersonate someone on usenet, if you don't gain
> anything of value by doing it.

You are wrong, as always.

And you always gain something by doing it
because otherwise you wouldn’t do it, fuckwit.

> There are certain laws about impersonating a police officer etc,

In fact quite specific ones in that case.

> but that is not 'fraud'.

You are wrong, as always.

And what that stupid cow did is fraud without
any personal reward for the stupid cow.

>>>>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>>>>
>>>> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>>>>
>>>>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>>>>
>>>>>> Some are indeed.

On 11/11/2021 9:57 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Else wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a cause
>>>>>>>>>>> of action
>>>>>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious
liability, for
>>>>>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with
>>>>>>>>>>> criminal assault.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** Huh ???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a vaccination,
>>>>>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got
>>>>>>>>>> half the deal.
>>>>>>>>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and
>>>>>>>>>>> never work as
>>>>>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>>>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>>>>>> vaccination tho.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s just one type of fraud.
>>>
>>>> That's the only thing fraud is.
>>>
>>> You are wrong, as always. Most obviously with what
>>> that stupid cow did and pretending to be someone
>>> else in usenet etc.
>
>> It is not fraud to impersonate someone on usenet, if you don't gain
>> anything of value by doing it.
>
> You are wrong, as always.
>
> And you always gain something by doing it
> because otherwise you wouldn’t do it, fuckwit.
>

The law only recognises value in things that could be converted to
dollar value. Personal gratification in doing something cannot be
converted to dollar value.

>> There are certain laws about impersonating a police officer etc,
>
> In fact quite specific ones in that case.
>
>> but that is not 'fraud'.
>
> You are wrong, as always.
> > And what that stupid cow did is fraud without
> any personal reward for the stupid cow.

This is the definition of fraud in WA. You might think that 1(d)
applies because it is about causing a detriment, but the woman did not
believe she was causing a detriment because she is an anti-vaxxer.

409. Fraud

(1) Any person who, with intent to defraud, by deceit or any
fraudulent means —
(a) obtains property from any person; or
(b) induces any person to deliver property to another person; or
(c) gains a benefit, pecuniary or otherwise, for any person; or
(d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise, to anyperson; or
(e) induces any person to do any act that the person is lawfully
entitled to abstain from doing; or
(f) induces any person to abstain from doing any act that the person is
lawfully entitled to do,

is guilty of a crime

>
>>>>>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some are indeed.
>
>

Fuck OFF Max the MORON wrote:
===========================
>
> This is the definition of fraud in WA. You might think that 1(d)
> applies because it is about causing a detriment, but the woman did not
> believe she was causing a detriment because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>
** Total nonsense.

>
> 409. Fraud
>
> (d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise, to anyperson; or
>

** Her employer suffered detriment as he would have to cover the cost of doing another vaccination.

Also it put him at risk of being sued for medical negligence if the woman got ill from Covid.

Fuck off IDIOT

..... Phil

On 11/11/2021 3:04 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Fuck OFF Max the MORON wrote:
> ===========================
>>
>> This is the definition of fraud in WA. You might think that 1(d)
>> applies because it is about causing a detriment, but the woman did not
>> believe she was causing a detriment because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>>
> ** Total nonsense.
>
>>
>> 409. Fraud
>>
>> (d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise, to anyperson; or
>>
>
> ** Her employer suffered detriment as he would have to cover the cost of doing another vaccination.
>
> Also it put him at risk of being sued for medical negligence if the woman got ill from Covid.
>

Every criminal offence requires a 'mens rea' or 'intention'.

If she does not believe she is causing a detriment then she does not
have the required intention.

The employer would not have to cover the cost of doing another
vaccination. The government would pay for both attempts.

The employer would not be at risk of being sued for medical negligence
if the woman was responsible for the actions.

Fuck OFF Max the MORON wrote:
===========================
>>>
> >> This is the definition of fraud in WA. You might think that 1(d)
> >> applies because it is about causing a detriment, but the woman did not
> >> believe she was causing a detriment because she is an anti-vaxxer.
> >>
> > ** Total nonsense.
> >
> >>
> >> 409. Fraud
> >>
> >> (d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise, to anyperson; or
> >>
> >
> > ** Her employer suffered detriment as he would have to cover the cost of doing another vaccination.
> >
> > Also it put him at risk of being sued for medical negligence if the woman got ill from Covid.
> >
>
> Every criminal offence requires a 'mens rea' or 'intention'.
>
> If she does not believe she is causing a detriment then she does not
> have the required intention.
>

** Massive, stupid fallacy.
The correct & legal response to such belief is she to quits her job.
She well knew that her view was outside the law so cannot be defended.

> The employer would not have to cover the cost of doing another
> vaccination. The government would pay for both attempts.
>
> The employer would not be at risk of being sued for medical negligence
> if the woman was responsible for the actions.

** 10000 % WRONG

Employers always face * vicarious liability * for whatever bad things employees do.

FOAD idiot

...... Phil

On 11/11/2021 4:19 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Fuck OFF Max the MORON wrote:
> ===========================
>>>>
>>>> This is the definition of fraud in WA. You might think that 1(d)
>>>> applies because it is about causing a detriment, but the woman did not
>>>> believe she was causing a detriment because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>>>>
>>> ** Total nonsense.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 409. Fraud
>>>>
>>>> (d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise, to anyperson; or
>>>>
>>>
>>> ** Her employer suffered detriment as he would have to cover the cost of doing another vaccination.
>>>
>>> Also it put him at risk of being sued for medical negligence if the woman got ill from Covid.
>>>
>>
>> Every criminal offence requires a 'mens rea' or 'intention'.
>>
>> If she does not believe she is causing a detriment then she does not
>> have the required intention.
>>
>
> ** Massive, stupid fallacy.
> The correct & legal response to such belief is she to quits her job.
> She well knew that her view was outside the law so cannot be defended.
>

She might argue that she needed the income from job to support basic
life needs such as food and shelter.

>> The employer would not have to cover the cost of doing another
>> vaccination. The government would pay for both attempts.
>>
>> The employer would not be at risk of being sued for medical negligence
>> if the woman was responsible for the actions.
>
> ** 10000 % WRONG
>
> Employers always face * vicarious liability * for whatever bad things employees do.
>

Vicarious liability does not apply when employees do not follow orders
and go on a 'frolic of their own'.

> FOAD idiot
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>