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 by: JeSSe - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:24 UTC

"Wagner Group", echoes of the infamous Nazi "Dirlewanger Brigade" of WW2.
Hopefully they will be slaughtered in place right down to the last deviant.

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3,000 of Russia’s feared Wagner mercenaries have already been killed in
Ukraine after 8,000 were sent in to boost Putin’s flagging invasion,
British MPs are told

The shadowy Private Military Company has been linked to a string of
war crimes
Wagner are used by the Kremlin to carry out dirty work at arms
length from Putin
It has been widely reported that they have been deployed by Putin
in Ukraine
Christo Grozev, executive director of the Bellingcat investigative
website, said 3,000 of its members are thoughts to have been killed on
the battlefield so far
He said his sources inside the group told him their numbers were
'much higher' than had first been expected by Western officials

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10735955/3-000-Russias-feared-Wagner-mercenaries-killed-Ukraine-PMs-told.html
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 by: TWP - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 10:17 UTC

On 20/04/2022 23:24, JeSSe wrote:
> "Wagner Group", echoes of the infamous Nazi "Dirlewanger Brigade" of WW2.
> Hopefully they will be slaughtered in place right down to the last deviant.
>
> ``````````````````````````````````
>
>
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> 3,000 of Russia’s feared Wagner mercenaries have already been killed in
> Ukraine after 8,000 were sent in to boost Putin’s flagging invasion,
> British MPs are told
>
>     The shadowy Private Military Company has been linked to a string of
> war crimes
>     Wagner are used by the Kremlin to carry out dirty work at arms
> length from Putin
>     It has been widely reported that they have been deployed by Putin
> in Ukraine
>     Christo Grozev, executive director of the Bellingcat investigative
> website, said 3,000 of its members are thoughts to have been killed on
> the battlefield so far
>     He said his sources inside the group told him their numbers were
> 'much higher' than had first been expected by Western officials
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10735955/3-000-Russias-feared-Wagner-mercenaries-killed-Ukraine-PMs-told.html
>

Putin can't stay at arms length from what's been happening. Putin has
made a point of owning this conflict from the start.

Putin is going to be calling up everyone he can get hold of so he can
invade with force before NATO can bring in enough weapons to hold back
even those numbers.

The Russians are lucky that the plan to give Ukraine aircraft fell
through. That idea might come back.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:00 UTC

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:17:33 +0100
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 20/04/2022 23:24, JeSSe wrote:
> > "Wagner Group", echoes of the infamous Nazi "Dirlewanger Brigade"
> > of WW2. Hopefully they will be slaughtered in place right down to
> > the last deviant.

Many said the same about Blackwater and other murderous mercenaries the US had operating in the Middle East.

> Putin can't stay at arms length from what's been happening. Putin
> has made a point of owning this conflict from the start.
>
> Putin is going to be calling up everyone he can get hold of so he can
> invade with force before NATO can bring in enough weapons to hold
> back even those numbers.
>
> The Russians are lucky that the plan to give Ukraine aircraft fell
> through. That idea might come back.

Unlikely as that would make NATO a party to the conflict and that's something they are desperate to avoid.

Britain has issued D Notices to stop the media talking about what British forces are actually doing in Ukraine because of that fear.

Biden promising helicopters raised eyebrows because that risks taking America over the line.

I don't know if anyone is keeping track of what aid Biden has provided to Ukraine, what American tax payers will be paying for, but it seems it may be around $4 billion given it was $2 billion by March and we have recently had announcements of $600 million and $800 million more.

We appear to have provide £850 million in military and economic aid. Though it's no great surprise that what we have actually delivered is only a tiny part of what we have said we would deliver.

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