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 by: The Happy Hippy - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:59 UTC

https://www.axios.com/white-house-russian-assets-ukraine-aid-1db28a96-c31b-48b9-bf3f-23f034b26884.html

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The White House unveiled a proposed legislative package on Thursday that would allow the federal government to sell assets seized from Russian oligarchs over the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine and use the proceeds for military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

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It's simply a money-grab. No need for evidence, no need for proof nor trial.

It's peak Cancel Culture.

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 by: TWP - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:14 UTC

On 28/04/2022 19:59, The Happy Hippy wrote:
> https://www.axios.com/white-house-russian-assets-ukraine-aid-1db28a96-c31b-48b9-bf3f-23f034b26884.html
>
> <quotes>
>
> The White House unveiled a proposed legislative package on Thursday that would allow the federal government to sell assets seized from Russian oligarchs over the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine and use the proceeds for military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
>
> </quotes>
>
> It's simply a money-grab. No need for evidence, no need for proof nor trial.
>
> It's peak Cancel Culture.
>

I don't support expanding military confrontation to involve civilians
That opinion may be variable where the party involved has a clear
connection to the conflict but not just because they're a national of
the attacking country. We're not looking for Americans that have done
well out of Putin to my knowledge. Not looking for Italians either that
I know of.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Sun, 1 May 2022 23:55 UTC

On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:14:36 +0100
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28/04/2022 19:59, The Happy Hippy wrote:
> > https://www.axios.com/white-house-russian-assets-ukraine-aid-1db28a96-c31b-48b9-bf3f-23f034b26884.html
> >
> > <quotes>
> >
> > The White House unveiled a proposed legislative package on Thursday
> > that would allow the federal government to sell assets seized from
> > Russian oligarchs over the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine and use
> > the proceeds for military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
> >
> > </quotes>
> >
> > It's simply a money-grab. No need for evidence, no need for proof
> > nor trial.
> >
> > It's peak Cancel Culture.
> >
>
> I don't support expanding military confrontation to involve civilians
> That opinion may be variable where the party involved has a clear
> connection to the conflict but not just because they're a national of
> the attacking country. We're not looking for Americans that have
> done well out of Putin to my knowledge. Not looking for Italians
> either that I know of.

Indeed. It's hard not to call it an anti-Russian witch hunt isn't it.

Of course, parallels with Hitler are currently reserved for being thrown at Putin.

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 by: JeSSe - Mon, 2 May 2022 00:07 UTC

TWP wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 19:59, The Happy Hippy wrote:
>> https://www.axios.com/white-house-russian-assets-ukraine-aid-1db28a96-c31b-48b9-bf3f-23f034b26884.html
>>
>>
>> <quotes>
>>
>> The White House unveiled a proposed legislative package on Thursday
>> that would allow the federal government to sell assets seized from
>> Russian oligarchs over the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine and use the
>> proceeds for military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
>>
>> </quotes>
>>
>> It's simply a money-grab. No need for evidence, no need for proof nor
>> trial.
>>
>> It's peak Cancel Culture.
>>
>
> I don't support expanding military confrontation to involve civilians
> That opinion may be variable where the party involved has a clear
> connection to the conflict but not just because they're a national of
> the attacking country.  We're not looking for Americans that have done
> well out of Putin to my knowledge.  Not looking for Italians either that
> I know of.
>

The whole concept of going after these "oligarchs" is that they have
amassed their fortunes being part of a corrupt racket, and they use the
west for money laundering, tax evasion ect. - As such, if such is true,
they are fair game for enforcement ,, But sure, using that criteria then
Biden himself [and certainly his drug addicted oligarch son Hunter]
should be investigated, raided and put out of business, along with many
others.

If war criminal putin had the chance to do the same thing he certainly
would, but it appears this only works 1 way. No one is investing in
mansions in Siberia presently.
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Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for
light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

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 by: TWP - Mon, 2 May 2022 06:41 UTC

On 02/05/2022 01:07, JeSSe wrote:
> TWP wrote:
>> On 28/04/2022 19:59, The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>> https://www.axios.com/white-house-russian-assets-ukraine-aid-1db28a96-c31b-48b9-bf3f-23f034b26884.html
>>>
>>>
>>> <quotes>
>>>
>>> The White House unveiled a proposed legislative package on Thursday
>>> that would allow the federal government to sell assets seized from
>>> Russian oligarchs over the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine and use the
>>> proceeds for military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
>>>
>>> </quotes>
>>>
>>> It's simply a money-grab. No need for evidence, no need for proof nor
>>> trial.
>>>
>>> It's peak Cancel Culture.
>>>
>>
>> I don't support expanding military confrontation to involve civilians
>> That opinion may be variable where the party involved has a clear
>> connection to the conflict but not just because they're a national of
>> the attacking country.  We're not looking for Americans that have done
>> well out of Putin to my knowledge.  Not looking for Italians either
>> that I know of.
>>
>
> The whole concept of going after these "oligarchs" is that they have
> amassed their fortunes being part of a corrupt racket, and they use the
> west for money laundering, tax evasion ect. - As such, if such is true,
> they are fair game for enforcement ,, But sure, using that criteria then
> Biden himself [and certainly his drug addicted oligarch son Hunter]
> should be investigated, raided and put out of business, along with many
> others.
>
> If war criminal putin had the chance to do the same thing he certainly
> would, but it appears this only works 1 way. No one is investing in
> mansions in Siberia presently.

I do get the idea, but I don't like the timing. If these people have
actually committed crimes then we should have done something about it a
long time before now - if not, then we must be breaking most of our
legal tenets when be punish without establishing guilt or without
declaration of war.

It's not just about Putin or Russia or Ukraine, it's about whether you
want life to be governed by justice or, well..., opportunity I suppose,
as Putin appears to be working right now. Do you present a case for
doing something and argue it within the framework of past decisions and
what everyone has agreed 'is right' - including your reasons for not
acting promptly before now, making the oversight organisation a
co-conspirator - or do you set a policy and act on that policy alone?
The oligarchs's property isn't just being seized until some future time
when sanctions end, I believe the plan is to sell it. The property
won't be restored.

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Mon, 2 May 2022 10:30 UTC

On Sun, 1 May 2022 20:07:32 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> The whole concept of going after these "oligarchs" is that they have
> amassed their fortunes being part of a corrupt racket, and they use
> the west for money laundering, tax evasion ect. - As such, if such is
> true, they are fair game for enforcement

But must be entitled to due process.

Instead the west is finding those they label Russian Oligarchs guilty without trial, without allowing any opportunity to defend themselves, without any evidence of wrong doing. They are being punished simply because the prosecutors, judge and jury have chosen to label them Russian Oligarchs.

It is a witch hunt because we don't punish other Oligarchs and others engaged in such criminality the same way. Only Russian Oligarchs are singled out for this abuse of process.

And only Russian Oligarchs who aren't financing the political parties who have started this witch hunt.

The west doesn't hunt down nor treat others who amass their fortunes through corrupt rackets, who use the west for money laundering and tax evasion, in the same way. We don't impose sanctions on them, find them guilty without trial, confiscate all their wealth.

And it's not just Oligarchs we are harming. Others are being harmed because they are holding wealth which we say is Russian Oligarch wealth even when it isn't.

It is as corrupt and evil as American cops emptying the wallets of everyone they stop on the false premise it is ill-gotten wealth when it isn't.

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