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 by: JeSSe - Tue, 3 May 2022 04:01 UTC

What a blow to law and order, what a blow to sanctity , decorum and
precedent - Never before in history has a coming ruling been leaked in
advance, and from exactly the people you'd expect it to come from ,, The
ones that hobbled Trump an entire 4 years with a flood of leaks done
solely to embarrass and handicap him, now the same commie tactic aimed
at the very heart of law in the USA.

Its plain what the wingnuts hope to accomplish with this latest outrage
- And that is to put extreme pressure on the majority to change their
minds, to get all the pussyhat wingnuts in a murderous froth and out in
the streets, to perhaps try to beat down the supreme court doors like
they already have done during the Kavanaugh nomination.

Lets see in any demoncraps, who mockingly claim to stand for law and
order, as guardians of democracy against a traitorous right wing, have
any criticisms of this outrage.
Strong chance the leak might have come straight from the bench from one
of the wingnut judges, the "wise latina woman" being the most likely
suspect. She will have a chain of deniability, so if the culprit is ever
named and shamed, it will be some junior wingnut clerk.

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SCOTUS is set to OVERTURN Roe v Wade: Leaked draft opinion that calls
the 1973 decision legalizing abortion nationwide 'egregiously wrong from
the start': Protesters arrive at the US Supreme Court building

Bombshell leak sent shock waves throughout Washington
The opinion draft was written by Justice Samuel Alito, one of the
six justices appointed by Republican presidents on the nine-member court
The draft - obtained by Politico - is a repudiation of both Roe and
the 1992 Planned Parenthood vs. Casey decision
'Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,' Alito writes. 'We hold
that Roe and Casey must be overruled,' in the document, titled 'Opinion
of the Court'
This is the first known case in modern history of a Supreme Court
draft decision being leaked to the public while the case was still pending
Draft could be changed before formally released to public
Some charged the Alito drafted was leaked to try and get public
pressure on the court to change its decision
Democrats vowed to codify legal right to an abortion into law and
Republicans celebrating the news
Supreme Court notably didn't deny leak, saying it had no comment
Court is expected to rule before its term is up in late June or
early July

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10776831/Supreme-Court-votes-END-Roe-v-Wade-draft-opinion-Justice-Samuel-Alito.html

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On 03/05/2022 05:01, JeSSe wrote:
> What a blow to law and order, what a blow to sanctity , decorum and
> precedent - Never before in history has a coming ruling been leaked in
> advance, and from exactly the people you'd expect it to come from ,, The
> ones that hobbled Trump an entire 4 years with a flood of leaks done
> solely to embarrass and handicap him, now the same commie tactic aimed
> at the very heart of law in the USA.
>
> Its plain what the wingnuts hope to accomplish with this latest outrage
> - And that is to put extreme pressure on the majority to change their
> minds, to get all the pussyhat wingnuts in a murderous froth and out in
> the streets, to perhaps try to beat down the supreme court doors like
> they already have done during the Kavanaugh nomination.
>
> Lets see in any demoncraps, who mockingly claim to stand for law and
> order, as guardians of democracy against a traitorous right wing, have
> any criticisms of this outrage.
> Strong chance the leak might have come straight from the bench from one
> of the wingnut judges, the "wise latina woman" being the most likely
> suspect. She will have a chain of deniability, so if the culprit is ever
> named and shamed, it will be some junior wingnut clerk.
>
> ```````````````````````
>

Would the clerk even have the numbers if the judges were still deliberating?

I think you're right, it's an intimidation tactic.
My mother was pressed to abort me - and I mean pressed, the doctor
regarded it as an argument to win not an option to be presented, but I
wasn't killed and here I am. From only a handful of cells to an
advanced life form that is capable of wondering why his computer just
blue-screened. (I think the hard drive cable came loose)

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 by: The Happy Hippy - Tue, 3 May 2022 11:28 UTC

On Tue, 3 May 2022 07:05:23 +0100
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> My mother was pressed to abort me - and I mean pressed, the doctor
> regarded it as an argument to win not an option to be presented, but
> I wasn't killed and here I am.

That is a matter of healthcare and service provision, doesn't mean that abortion must be made illegal.

I am no more in favour of women being coerced into aborting against their wishes than in favour of women being coerced into not aborting against their wishes.

Both are attempts to force others into dingo what they want and is utterly wrong.

I don't believe anyone should be allowed to force others into doing something they don't want to do. But that's what the fascists who want to ban abortion want to do.

Fascists always want to cancel and punish what they don't agree with, force their will upon others.

Your mother was a near victim of fascism. You almost didn't exist because of fascism. So I am always surprised when you choose to support fascist ideology with first-hand experience of how evil fascism is.

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 by: JeSSe - Tue, 3 May 2022 17:27 UTC

TWP wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 05:01, JeSSe wrote:
>> What a blow to law and order, what a blow to sanctity , decorum and
>> precedent - Never before in history has a coming ruling been leaked in
>> advance, and from exactly the people you'd expect it to come from ,,
>> The ones that hobbled Trump an entire 4 years with a flood of leaks
>> done solely to embarrass and handicap him, now the same commie tactic
>> aimed at the very heart of law in the USA.
>>
>> Its plain what the wingnuts hope to accomplish with this latest
>> outrage - And that is to put extreme pressure on the majority to
>> change their minds, to get all the pussyhat wingnuts in a murderous
>> froth and out in the streets, to perhaps try to beat down the supreme
>> court doors like they already have done during the Kavanaugh nomination.
>>
>> Lets see in any demoncraps, who mockingly claim to stand for law and
>> order, as guardians of democracy against a traitorous right wing, have
>> any criticisms of this outrage.
>> Strong chance the leak might have come straight from the bench from
>> one of the wingnut judges, the "wise latina woman" being the most
>> likely suspect. She will have a chain of deniability, so if the
>> culprit is ever named and shamed, it will be some junior wingnut clerk.
>>
>> ```````````````````````
>>
>
> Would the clerk even have the numbers if the judges were still
> deliberating?

I suppose some at least would be in a complete loop of whats going on,
especially if the leak came from the bench.
If it was one of the minority judges, I doubt if anything could or would
be done about it, even if their was video evidence.

The "wise lantina" is already guilty of spreading egregious
misinformation about covid, falsely claiming that there were "100,000's
of children in hospitals from covid", when in fact the number was 3,500
[in an effort to push for more draconian emergency edicts and forced
vaccinations], and she wasn't disciplined in the slightest for wading
outside of law straight into partisan politics.

With this precedent and more, its easy to see exactly who the teflon
activist is on the bench, and who would disregard all norms and
precedents [and also lie through their teeth] to advance a leftist agenda.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10383925/CDC-Director-Wallensky-corrects-Justice-Sotomayors-obscenely-false-claim.html

>
> I think you're right, it's an intimidation tactic.
> My mother was pressed to abort me - and I mean pressed, the doctor
> regarded it as an argument to win not an option to be presented, but I
> wasn't killed and here I am.  From only a handful of cells to an
> advanced life form that is capable of wondering why his computer just
> blue-screened.  (I think the hard drive cable came loose)
>

Hopefully just a cable, I dread computer problems.

I think it is fair and obvious to state that abortion would have been a
great option for some, including some posting on this very group ,, I
won't name names but lets just say that I think retroactive abortion
should be a legal option in some cases.

--
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for
light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

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JeSSe wrote:

>
> Lets see if any demoncraps, who mockingly claim to stand for law and
> order, as guardians of democracy against a traitorous right wing, have
> any criticisms of this outrage.

And here you have it, the pro baby killers are indeed outraged - Not
because the sanctity of SCOTUS has been crudely violated by one of their
own, but because of the content of the leak, as intended.

"My body my choice !", which took a leave of absence during the pandemic
because the lefties said this doesn't apply to forced vaccinations of
experimental serums, is back in vogue.
The usual suspects are [yet again] demanding the court to be packed,
filibuster be eliminated, so they can enforce their murderous visions by
edict.

Keep in mind, this does not and will not end/illegalize abortion, merely
make it an issue for individual states [and hence, voters] to decide.

'Real leaders should defend the Court': Mitch McConnell slams Biden and
top Dems for playing into the 'toxic spectacle' instead of backing the
Supreme Court after Roe leak that shows the 'radical left wants mob law'

Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell slammed President Joe
Biden for not condemning the person who leaked a draft opinion on the
potential overturn of Roe v. Wade to the press
'Last night's stunning breach was an attack on the independence of
the Supreme Court,' McConnell said
Added: 'By every indication, this was yet another escalation in the
radical left's ongoing campaign to bully and intimidate federal judges
and substitute mob rule for the rule of law'
Biden's statement on the draft opinion did not condemn the leaker
but insisted that there would be a plan to protect abortion rights if
the landmark case were overturned
Democratic socialists Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator
Bernie Sanders have called for Roe v. Wade to be codified into law as
protesters descended on the high court in Washington, DC
Senators Tom Cotton and Mitt Romney are demanding an investigation
into the reported leak
GOP Senator Josh Hawley is calling for whoever leaked the draft
opinion to be disbarred
Conservatives lauded news of a Supreme Court draft opinion set to
overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling
But some Republicans remained wary of why Justice Samuel Alito's
decision was published by Politico
They claimed it was part of an effort to 'intimidate' the high
court justices before a final decision is reached

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10779075/McConnell-slams-Biden-playing-toxic-spectacle-instead-backing-Court-Roe-leak.html

Squad member Ilhan Omar demands MORE Supreme Court justices while
Democrat colleagues call for the Senate to scrap the filibuster to
protect abortion rights in fury over Roe v. Wade leak

'It would fly in the face of decades of precedent and the
overwhelming majority of public opinion. And they will not stop here.
Expand the court,' Omar said
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., added: 'We must codify the right
to an abortion into federal law—even if it means eliminating the filibuster'
A draft legal opinion, which was leaked to Politico , reveals a
majority of the court's nine judges are in agreement on ending Roe
The landmark 1973 decision allowed legalized abortions
pre-viability, until about 22-24 weeks, all across America
The Guttmacher Institute, a pro-choice research group, has said
that 26 states are 'certain or likely' to ban abortion if Roe v. Wade is
overturned

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10778643/Ilhan-Omar-demands-Supreme-Court-justices-Democrats-call-Senate-scrap-filibuster.html
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 by: The Happy Hippy - Wed, 4 May 2022 18:23 UTC

On Tue, 3 May 2022 00:01:15 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> What a blow to law and order, what a blow to sanctity , decorum and
> precedent - Never before in history has a coming ruling been leaked
> in advance, and from exactly the people you'd expect it to come from

The rightwing who wanted it leaked before the Supreme Court could water it down to create a final ruling, to create support for not giving an inch.

It gives Alito the perfect pretext to say "look, this is what Republicans, the rightwing, fascists, our base, want, so don't betray them" while priming the mob to turn on the Supreme Court, like they turned on Capitol Hill, if it is watered down.

This is what happens when the unelected Supreme Court, the most undemocratic institution in America, in the west, the corrupt supreme power, chooses to serve the party rather than the people.

And there's nothing anyone can do about it other than put a bullet in a Supreme Court Judge's head or pack the court with ideological opponents.

The Shithole States of America truly is a shithole.

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JeSSe wrote:
> JeSSe wrote:
>
>>
>> Lets see if any demoncraps, who mockingly claim to stand for law and
>> order, as guardians of democracy against a traitorous right wing, have
>> any criticisms of this outrage.
>
>
>
> And here you have it, the pro baby killers are indeed outraged - Not
> because the sanctity of SCOTUS has been crudely violated by one of their
> own, but because of the content of the leak, as intended.
>
> "My body my choice !", which took a leave of absence during the pandemic
> because the lefties said this doesn't apply to forced vaccinations of
> experimental serums, is back in vogue.
> The usual suspects are [yet again] demanding the court to be packed,
> filibuster be eliminated, so they can enforce their murderous visions by
> edict.
>
> Keep in mind, this does not and will not end/illegalize abortion, merely
> make it an issue for individual states [and hence, voters] to decide.
>
>
>
> 'Real leaders should defend the Court': Mitch McConnell slams Biden and
> top Dems for playing into the 'toxic spectacle' instead of backing the
> Supreme Court after Roe leak that shows the 'radical left wants mob law'
>
>     Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell slammed President Joe
> Biden for not condemning the person who leaked a draft opinion on the
> potential overturn of Roe v. Wade to the press
>     'Last night's stunning breach was an attack on the independence of
> the Supreme Court,' McConnell said
>     Added: 'By every indication, this was yet another escalation in the
> radical left's ongoing campaign to bully and intimidate federal judges
> and substitute mob rule for the rule of law'
>     Biden's statement on the draft opinion did not condemn the leaker
> but insisted that there would be a plan to protect abortion rights if
> the landmark case were overturned
>     Democratic socialists Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator
> Bernie Sanders have called for Roe v. Wade to be codified into law as
> protesters descended on the high court in Washington, DC
>     Senators Tom Cotton and Mitt Romney are demanding an investigation
> into the reported leak
>     GOP Senator Josh Hawley is calling for whoever leaked the draft
> opinion to be disbarred
>     Conservatives lauded news of a Supreme Court draft opinion set to
> overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling
>     But some Republicans remained wary of why Justice Samuel Alito's
> decision was published by Politico
>     They claimed it was part of an effort to 'intimidate' the high
> court justices before a final decision is reached
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10779075/McConnell-slams-Biden-playing-toxic-spectacle-instead-backing-Court-Roe-leak.html
>
>
>
>
> Squad member Ilhan Omar demands MORE Supreme Court justices while
> Democrat colleagues call for the Senate to scrap the filibuster to
> protect abortion rights in fury over Roe v. Wade leak
>
>     'It would fly in the face of decades of precedent and the
> overwhelming majority of public opinion. And they will not stop here.
> Expand the court,' Omar said
>      Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., added: 'We must codify the right
> to an abortion into federal law—even if it means eliminating the
> filibuster'
>     A draft legal opinion, which was leaked to Politico , reveals a
> majority of the court's nine judges are in agreement on ending Roe
>     The landmark 1973 decision allowed legalized abortions
> pre-viability, until about 22-24 weeks, all across America
>     The Guttmacher Institute, a pro-choice research group, has said
> that 26 states are 'certain or likely' to ban abortion if Roe v. Wade is
> overturned
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10778643/Ilhan-Omar-demands-Supreme-Court-justices-Democrats-call-Senate-scrap-filibuster.html
>
> ``````````````````````
>
>
Just what the evil Bolsheviks wanted and craved, more acrimony, more
division, more partisan hatred to energize their lazy, entitled [and
very violent] voting base in time for the midterms.

Its apparent that they had their signs pre printed and ready to go as
they march into the streets with their pussy hats. Not sure what a man
in drag has to do with a woman having a baby aborted or not but the
LGBTRYSD brigade is out in force with their rainbow flags ,, And street
mobs antifa & blm won't be far behind, can't miss the opportunity for a
good riot and some looting !

I suspect it will soon be very racist [of course] to deny blacks the
right to throttle their sprogs on demand ,,Nothing in this country can
proceed before analyzing how it will affect our precious blacks, and
whether it does or doesn't, they are victims of everything by defualt !

The crazed left wing mob is not to be denied, if judges don't vote their
way then they are to be sullied, threatened and replaced by judges who
will vote their way - And don't expect any condemnations of this
communist rule by force and premeditated disruptions to social order
from the top of the Bolshevik pecking order, because they are the ones
orchestrating it.

`````````````````````````
Cops clash with pro-abortion protesters in LA as thousands demonstrate
across America one day after leaked draft opinion showed the Supreme
Court is likely to overturn Roe v. Wade

Department of Homeland Security agents were filmed Tuesday night
driving into a crowd of abortion rights activists in downtown Los Angeles
Videos posted online showed one DHS agent using his baton to push
protesters back as he shoved them out of the way
The agents had apparently declared the protest an 'unlawful assembly'
It was just one of several to pop up throughout the country on
Tuesday following a draft opinion showing the Supreme Court will likely
overturn Roe v Wade
Spontaneous demonstrations sprang up across the country as
pro-choice supporters took to the streets in dozens of US cities

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10780835/DHS-agent-shoves-pro-abortion-protesters-thousands-streets.html

American justice lurched toward mob rule after the leak of a Supreme
Court draft overturning Roe v Wade. Then Biden couldn't resist giving it
another shove, writes former White House legal adviser MAY MAILMAN

Every once in a while, we are reminded that civilization is a thin
veneer: our cities become overwhelmed by riots, a hurricane invites a
flood of looting, our border lives in chaos.

These events remind us that trust in our institutions—the police, the
media, our lawmakers, even our churches—can and do collapse.

But when any of these institutions fails, another can typically fill the
void or we can shop around for better.

With one exception.

The legitimacy of our judiciary, led by the Supreme Court, is
irreplaceable in our democracy.

We trust our courts as the authoritative word on what the law requires,
not what a politician finds convenient.

There is no other American institution that can serve this purpose.

Without independence from the political whims of the time, judicial
rulings are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Justice falls to mob rule.

Monday's unprecedented publication of a leaked draft of the opinion in
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization brought our nation one
giant step closer to that nightmare scenario.
Instead of addressing any damage to our judiciary, Biden used the leak
to further his political agenda, asking voters to elect 'more pro-choice
Senators and a pro-choice majority in the House to adopt legislation
that codifies Roe.'

Instead of addressing any damage to our judiciary, Biden used the leak
to further his political agenda, asking voters to elect 'more pro-choice
Senators and a pro-choice majority in the House to adopt legislation
that codifies Roe.'

And then President Joe Biden and Democrats couldn't resist giving it
another shove.

To be sure, the judiciary was not completely insulated from leftist
political pressure before this week.

In 2020, Senator Chuck Schumer marched to the Supreme Court, media in
tow, to scream, 'You won't know what hit you!' should justices side
against his preferred agenda.

In 2021, Senate and House Democrats introduced legislation to pack the
court with liberal judges to guarantee that they get the rulings they
want. Then Biden appointed an entire commission to give the option
legitimacy.

And an activist-funded mobile billboard that read 'Breyer Retire' was
parked near the Supreme Court for months in yet another unprecedented
pressure campaign from the left.

Nor was the Court previously impervious to some chatter from the inside.


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On Wed, 4 May 2022 16:39:51 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> Department of Homeland Security agents were filmed Tuesday night
> driving into a crowd of abortion rights activists in downtown Los
> Angeles

That's how the right to democratic protest is dealt with in the Shithole States of America.

Always be prepared for the fascists to run you down, beat you up, murder you, when they disagree with your perspective.

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