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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 13:57 UTC

A new ​study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that people are most likely to cycle to work when traffic speeds on the routes that take them there are below 20mph.

A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders – and women in particular – off to a greater degree.

The study has been published in the International Journal of Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic intensity most influence cycling mode choice? A study of commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).

The university said that the study “analysed traffic data for all roads and cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles (HGVs), and the amount of cycling infrastructure along the shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters choosing to cycle.

“It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000 routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived between two and five kilometres from work – a distance that should be cyclable for many.”

In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that while the presence of cycle paths encouraged more cycling, just how effective they were in doing that was due to traffic conditions in the area.

Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive to cycling, with people less likely to ride bikes to work where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads with high vehicle speeds.

But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people’s preparedness to cycle.

Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban areas, or planning cycling infrastructure.

They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown last year will be particularly important going forward as the UK aims to meet its emissions target – and say that their research can help planners identify where cycling infrastructure should be, and what form it should take.

Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: “Cutting speeds may be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does encourage people onto their bikes.

“It’s a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage more people to cycle, with the added benefit on people’s health from reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are opportunities to make towns more attractive to cyclists.”

Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: “Our findings can help local authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in cycling infrastructure.

“More cycling doesn’t just mean towns and cities are reducing their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature mortality.”

During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20’s Plenty For Us pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.

https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje... (link is external)

The UN said: “In densely populated urban areas, there is strong evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.

“For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical, predictable mix of road users (cars, cyclists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should be established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher limits.”

King said: “This really does bring out the fact that evidence supports the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of the speed limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore, the best thing about a default 20mph limit is that it is affordable, effective and can be rolled out without a huge call on engineering or technical resources.”

https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 15:09 UTC

On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> A new ​study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds on the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>
> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders – and women in particular – off to a greater degree.
>
> The study has been published in the International Journal of Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A study of commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>
> The university said that the study “analysed traffic data for all roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters choosing to cycle.
>
> “It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000 routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived between two and five kilometres from work – a distance that should be fairy-cyclable [sic] for many.”
>
> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that while the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more fairy-cycling, just how effective they were in doing that was due to traffic conditions in the area.
>
> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive to fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to work where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads with high vehicle speeds.
>
> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people’s preparedness to fairy-cycle.
>
> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban areas, or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>
> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown last year will be particularly important going forward as the UK aims to meet its emissions target – and say that their research can help planners identify where fairy-cycling infrastructure should be, and what form it should take.
>
> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: “Cutting speeds may be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does encourage people onto their fairy-bikes.
>
> “It’s a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage more people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people’s health from reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are opportunities to make towns more attractive to fairy-cyclists.”
>
> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: “Our findings can help local authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>
> “More fairy-cycling doesn’t just mean towns and cities are reducing their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature mortality.”
>
> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20’s Plenty For Us pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>
> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje... (link is external)
>
> The UN said: “In densely populated urban areas, there is strong evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>
> “For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical, predictable mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should be established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher limits.”
>
> King said: “This really does bring out the fact that evidence supports the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of the speed limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore, the best thing about a default 20mph limit is that it is affordable, effective and can be rolled out without a huge call on engineering or technical resources.”
>
> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments

Rubbish on stilts.

People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller number by
train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.

(Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't credibly
be said to be commuting.)

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 by: Peter Keller - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:00 UTC

On 9/12/21 04:09, JNugent wrote:
> On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A new ​study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that
>> people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds on
>> the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>>
>> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads
>> that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to
>> fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders – and women in
>> particular – off to a greater degree.
>>
>> The study has been published in the International Journal of
>> Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic
>> intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A study of
>> commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>>
>> The university said that the study “analysed traffic data for all
>> roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different
>> vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles
>> (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the
>> shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters
>> choosing to cycle.
>>
>> “It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic
>> crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000
>> routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived
>> between two and five kilometres from work – a distance that should be
>> fairy-cyclable [sic] for many.”
>>
>> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that while
>> the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more fairy-cycling, just
>> how effective they were in doing that was due to traffic conditions in
>> the area.
>>
>> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive to
>> fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to work
>> where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads with high
>> vehicle speeds.
>>
>> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of
>> lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people’s preparedness
>> to fairy-cycle.
>>
>> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local
>> authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban areas,
>> or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>
>> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the
>> additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown last
>> year will be particularly important going forward as the UK aims to
>> meet its emissions target – and say that their research can help
>> planners identify where fairy-cycling infrastructure should be, and
>> what form it should take.
>>
>> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: “Cutting speeds may
>> be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does encourage
>> people onto their fairy-bikes.
>>
>> “It’s a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage more
>> people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people’s health from
>> reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are opportunities to make towns
>> more attractive to fairy-cyclists.”
>>
>> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: “Our findings can help local
>> authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in
>> fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>
>> “More fairy-cycling doesn’t just mean towns and cities are reducing
>> their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and
>> reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature
>> mortality.”
>>
>> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the
>> road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20’s Plenty For Us
>> pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph
>> default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>>
>> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje...
>> (link is external)
>>
>> The UN said:  “In densely populated urban areas, there is strong
>> evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are
>> unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when
>> speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>>
>> “For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical, predictable
>> mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists, motorcyclists, and
>> pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should be
>> established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher limits.”
>>
>> King said: “This really does bring out the fact that evidence supports
>> the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of the speed
>> limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore, the best thing
>> about a default 20mph limit is that it is affordable, effective and
>> can be rolled out without a huge call on engineering or technical
>> resources.”
>>
>> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments
>>
>
> Rubbish on stilts.
>
> People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller number by
> train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.
>
> (Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't credibly
> be said to be commuting.)

Glad to be part of the "smallest number" group.
At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
fit and healthy.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:04 UTC

On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:00:52 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote:
..
> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
> fit and healthy.

Commuting 100 000 miles between ages 40-55 was the best investment I've ever made.
My heart is like a metronome today.

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:26 UTC

On 09/12/2021 09:00 am, Peter Keller wrote:
> On 9/12/21 04:09, JNugent wrote:
>> On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> A new ​study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that
>>> people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds on
>>> the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>>>
>>> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads
>>> that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to
>>> fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders – and women in
>>> particular – off to a greater degree.
>>>
>>> The study has been published in the International Journal of
>>> Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic
>>> intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A study of
>>> commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>>>
>>> The university said that the study “analysed traffic data for all
>>> roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different
>>> vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles
>>> (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the
>>> shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters
>>> choosing to cycle.
>>>
>>> “It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic
>>> crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000
>>> routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived
>>> between two and five kilometres from work – a distance that should be
>>> fairy-cyclable [sic] for many.”
>>>
>>> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that while
>>> the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more fairy-cycling, just
>>> how effective they were in doing that was due to traffic conditions in
>>> the area.
>>>
>>> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive to
>>> fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to work
>>> where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads with high
>>> vehicle speeds.
>>>
>>> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of
>>> lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people’s preparedness
>>> to fairy-cycle.
>>>
>>> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local
>>> authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban areas,
>>> or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>
>>> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the
>>> additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown last
>>> year will be particularly important going forward as the UK aims to
>>> meet its emissions target – and say that their research can help
>>> planners identify where fairy-cycling infrastructure should be, and
>>> what form it should take.
>>>
>>> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: “Cutting speeds may
>>> be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does encourage
>>> people onto their fairy-bikes.
>>>
>>> “It’s a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage more
>>> people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people’s health from
>>> reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are opportunities to make towns
>>> more attractive to fairy-cyclists.”
>>>
>>> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: “Our findings can help local
>>> authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in
>>> fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>
>>> “More fairy-cycling doesn’t just mean towns and cities are reducing
>>> their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and
>>> reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature
>>> mortality.”
>>>
>>> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the
>>> road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20’s Plenty For Us
>>> pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph
>>> default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>>>
>>> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje...
>>> (link is external)
>>>
>>> The UN said:  “In densely populated urban areas, there is strong
>>> evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are
>>> unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when
>>> speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>>>
>>> “For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical, predictable
>>> mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists, motorcyclists, and
>>> pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should be
>>> established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher limits.”
>>>
>>> King said: “This really does bring out the fact that evidence supports
>>> the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of the speed
>>> limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore, the best thing
>>> about a default 20mph limit is that it is affordable, effective and
>>> can be rolled out without a huge call on engineering or technical
>>> resources.”
>>>
>>> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments
>>>
>>
>> Rubbish on stilts.
>>
>> People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller number by
>> train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.
>>
>> (Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't credibly
>> be said to be commuting.)
>
> Glad to be part of the "smallest number" group.
> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
> fit and healthy.

I am glad to hear it! ;-)

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:27 UTC

On 09/12/2021 11:04 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:00:52 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote:
> .
>> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
>> fit and healthy.
>
> Commuting 100 000 miles between ages 40-55 was the best investment I've ever made.

By fairy-cycle?

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On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:00:52 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote:

> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
> fit and healthy.

The only weather I didn't like at all was hailstones and lightning.

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 04:41 UTC

Peter Keller wrote:
> On 9/12/21 04:09, JNugent wrote:
>> On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> A new ?study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that
>>> people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds on
>>> the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>>>
>>> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads
>>> that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to
>>> fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders - and women in
>>> particular - off to a greater degree.
>>>
>>> The study has been published in the International Journal of
>>> Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic
>>> intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A study of
>>> commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>>>
>>> The university said that the study "analysed traffic data for all
>>> roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different
>>> vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles
>>> (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the
>>> shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters
>>> choosing to cycle.
>>>
>>> "It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic
>>> crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000
>>> routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived
>>> between two and five kilometres from work - a distance that should
>>> be fairy-cyclable [sic] for many."
>>>
>>> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that
>>> while the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more
>>> fairy-cycling, just how effective they were in doing that was due
>>> to traffic conditions in the area.
>>>
>>> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive
>>> to fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to
>>> work where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads
>>> with high vehicle speeds.
>>>
>>> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of
>>> lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people's
>>> preparedness to fairy-cycle.
>>>
>>> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local
>>> authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban
>>> areas, or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>
>>> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the
>>> additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown
>>> last year will be particularly important going forward as the UK
>>> aims to meet its emissions target - and say that their research can
>>> help planners identify where fairy-cycling infrastructure should
>>> be, and what form it should take.
>>>
>>> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: "Cutting speeds
>>> may be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does
>>> encourage people onto their fairy-bikes.
>>>
>>> "It's a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage
>>> more people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people's
>>> health from reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are
>>> opportunities to make towns more attractive to fairy-cyclists."
>>>
>>> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: "Our findings can help local
>>> authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in
>>> fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>
>>> "More fairy-cycling doesn't just mean towns and cities are reducing
>>> their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and
>>> reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature
>>> mortality."
>>>
>>> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the
>>> road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20's Plenty For
>>> Us pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph
>>> default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>>>
>>> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje...
>>> (link is external)
>>>
>>> The UN said: "In densely populated urban areas, there is strong
>>> evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are
>>> unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when
>>> speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>>>
>>> "For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical,
>>> predictable mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists, motorcyclists,
>>> and pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should
>>> be established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher
>>> limits."
>>>
>>> King said: "This really does bring out the fact that evidence
>>> supports the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of
>>> the speed limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore,
>>> the best thing about a default 20mph limit is that it is
>>> affordable, effective and can be rolled out without a huge call on
>>> engineering or technical resources."
>>>
>>> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments
>>>
>>
>> Rubbish on stilts.
>>
>> People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller
>> number by train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.
>>
>> (Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't
>> credibly be said to be commuting.)
>
> Glad to be part of the "smallest number" group.
> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
> fit and healthy.

Tell us when you last, if ever, had a fuck.
Don't be shy.

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 by: Peter Keller - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:18 UTC

On 10/12/21 17:41, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> Peter Keller wrote:
>> On 9/12/21 04:09, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> A new ?study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that
>>>> people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds on
>>>> the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>>>>
>>>> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads
>>>> that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to
>>>> fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders - and women in
>>>> particular - off to a greater degree.
>>>>
>>>> The study has been published in the International Journal of
>>>> Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of traffic
>>>> intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A study of
>>>> commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>>>>
>>>> The university said that the study "analysed traffic data for all
>>>> roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different
>>>> vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles
>>>> (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the
>>>> shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of commuters
>>>> choosing to cycle.
>>>>
>>>> "It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic
>>>> crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly 35,000
>>>> routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and who lived
>>>> between two and five kilometres from work - a distance that should
>>>> be fairy-cyclable [sic] for many."
>>>>
>>>> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that
>>>> while the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more
>>>> fairy-cycling, just how effective they were in doing that was due
>>>> to traffic conditions in the area.
>>>>
>>>> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive
>>>> to fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to
>>>> work where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads
>>>> with high vehicle speeds.
>>>>
>>>> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion of
>>>> lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people's
>>>> preparedness to fairy-cycle.
>>>>
>>>> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local
>>>> authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban
>>>> areas, or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and the
>>>> additional interest there has been in it since the first lockdown
>>>> last year will be particularly important going forward as the UK
>>>> aims to meet its emissions target - and say that their research can
>>>> help planners identify where fairy-cycling infrastructure should
>>>> be, and what form it should take.
>>>>
>>>> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: "Cutting speeds
>>>> may be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does
>>>> encourage people onto their fairy-bikes.
>>>>
>>>> "It's a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage
>>>> more people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people's
>>>> health from reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are
>>>> opportunities to make towns more attractive to fairy-cyclists."
>>>>
>>>> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: "Our findings can help local
>>>> authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in
>>>> fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> "More fairy-cycling doesn't just mean towns and cities are reducing
>>>> their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping active and
>>>> reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and premature
>>>> mortality."
>>>>
>>>> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of the
>>>> road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20's Plenty For
>>>> Us pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called for a 20mph
>>>> default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje...
>>>> (link is external)
>>>>
>>>> The UN said: "In densely populated urban areas, there is strong
>>>> evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are
>>>> unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when
>>>> speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>>>>
>>>> "For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical,
>>>> predictable mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists, motorcyclists,
>>>> and pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h (20 mph) should
>>>> be established, unless strong evidence exists to support higher
>>>> limits."
>>>>
>>>> King said: "This really does bring out the fact that evidence
>>>> supports the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard of
>>>> the speed limit where there is a mix of road users. Furthermore,
>>>> the best thing about a default 20mph limit is that it is
>>>> affordable, effective and can be rolled out without a huge call on
>>>> engineering or technical resources."
>>>>
>>>> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments
>>>>
>>>
>>> Rubbish on stilts.
>>>
>>> People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller
>>> number by train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.
>>>
>>> (Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't
>>> credibly be said to be commuting.)
>>
>> Glad to be part of the "smallest number" group.
>> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept incredibly
>> fit and healthy.
>
> Tell us when you last, if ever, had a fuck.
> Don't be shy.
>
>
I am not telling you.
None of your business.
Off topic.
..... ....

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:11 UTC

Peter Keller wrote:
> On 10/12/21 17:41, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
>> Peter Keller wrote:
>>> On 9/12/21 04:09, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 08/12/2021 01:57 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A new ?study of almost 35,000 commutes in Surrey has revealed that
>>>>> people are most likely to fairy-cycle to work when traffic speeds
>>>>> on the routes that take them there are below 20mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> A research team at the University of Surrey found that while roads
>>>>> that were busier with motor traffic acted as a deterrent to
>>>>> fairy-cycling, speed of vehicles put potential riders - and women
>>>>> in particular - off to a greater degree.
>>>>>
>>>>> The study has been published in the International Journal of
>>>>> Sustainable Transportation under the title, What aspects of
>>>>> traffic intensity most influence fairy-cycling mode choice? A
>>>>> study of commuting in Surrey, UK (link is external).
>>>>>
>>>>> The university said that the study "analysed traffic data for all
>>>>> roads and fairy-cycle routes in Surrey to look at how different
>>>>> vehicle speeds, volumes, the proportion of heavy goods vehicles
>>>>> (HGVs), and the amount of fairy-cycling infrastructure along the
>>>>> shortest route to work corresponded with the proportion of
>>>>> commuters choosing to cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It also considered distance, hilliness and the effect of traffic
>>>>> crossing the route at junctions. In total it examined nearly
>>>>> 35,000 routes to work for 172,000 commuters living in Surrey and
>>>>> who lived between two and five kilometres from work - a distance
>>>>> that should be fairy-cyclable [sic] for many."
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of the effect of infrastructure, researchers said that
>>>>> while the presence of fairy-cycle paths encouraged more
>>>>> fairy-cycling, just how effective they were in doing that was due
>>>>> to traffic conditions in the area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Routes that crossed busy roads were found to act as a disincentive
>>>>> to fairy-cycling, with people less likely to ride fairy-bikes to
>>>>> work where their route took them across heavily trafficked roads
>>>>> with high vehicle speeds.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in what was described as a surprising finding, the proportion
>>>>> of lorries on roads and at junctions did not affect people's
>>>>> preparedness to fairy-cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Researchers say that the findings provide evidence to local
>>>>> authorities considering introducing lower speed limits in urban
>>>>> areas, or planning fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> They also point out that continuing to support active travel and
>>>>> the additional interest there has been in it since the first
>>>>> lockdown last year will be particularly important going forward
>>>>> as the UK aims to meet its emissions target - and say that their
>>>>> research can help planners identify where fairy-cycling
>>>>> infrastructure should be, and what form it should take.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Susan Hughes of the University of Surrey said: "Cutting speeds
>>>>> may be unpopular with drivers, but our research shows it does
>>>>> encourage people onto their fairy-bikes.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It's a change which, if implemented strategically, may encourage
>>>>> more people to fairy-cycle, with the added benefit on people's
>>>>> health from reduced carbon emissions. Hence, there are
>>>>> opportunities to make towns more attractive to fairy-cyclists."
>>>>>
>>>>> Lead author, Dr Nick Grudgings, added: "Our findings can help
>>>>> local authorities make the best decisions about where to invest in
>>>>> fairy-cycling infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> "More fairy-cycling doesn't just mean towns and cities are
>>>>> reducing their CO2 emissions, it also means commuters are keeping
>>>>> active and reducing their risk of heart disease, depression and
>>>>> premature mortality."
>>>>>
>>>>> During Road Safety Week last month, in a blog on the website of
>>>>> the road safety charity Brake, Rod King of the campaign 20's
>>>>> Plenty For Us pointed out that the United Nations (UN) has called
>>>>> for a 20mph default speed limit in urban areas across the globe.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.brake.org.uk/how-we-help/raising-awareness/our-current-proje...
>>>>> (link is external)
>>>>>
>>>>> The UN said: "In densely populated urban areas, there is strong
>>>>> evidence that even the best road and vehicle design features are
>>>>> unable to adequately guarantee the safety of all road users when
>>>>> speeds are above the known safe level of 30 km/h.
>>>>>
>>>>> "For this reason, in urban areas where there is a typical,
>>>>> predictable mix of road users (cars, fairy-cyclists,
>>>>> motorcyclists, and pedestrians), a maximum speed limit of 30 km/h
>>>>> (20 mph) should be established, unless strong evidence exists to
>>>>> support higher limits."
>>>>>
>>>>> King said: "This really does bring out the fact that evidence
>>>>> supports the adoption of 20mph limits and sets a global standard
>>>>> of the speed limit where there is a mix of road users.
>>>>> Furthermore, the best thing about a default 20mph limit is that
>>>>> it is affordable, effective and can be rolled out without a huge
>>>>> call on engineering or technical resources."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://road.cc/content/news/bike-commutes-most-likely-where-traffic-speed-below-20mph-288443#block-node-comment-block-node-comments
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rubbish on stilts.
>>>>
>>>> People are *most* *likely* to commute by car or bus, a smaller
>>>> number by train and the *smallest* number by fairy-cycle.
>>>>
>>>> (Of course, people who are close enough to walk to work can't
>>>> credibly be said to be commuting.)
>>>
>>> Glad to be part of the "smallest number" group.
>>> At the cost of the occasional 'drowned rat' day I have kept
>>> incredibly fit and healthy.
>>
>> Tell us when you last, if ever, had a fuck.
>> Don't be shy.
>>
>>
> I am not telling you.
> None of your business.
> Off topic.

Looks like you have never had a fuck then.

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> Looks like you have never had a fuck then.
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>> .... ....
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>

I feel really honoured that you say that about me.
Especially as YOU said it.

And I have no fucking interest in looking good in YOUR eyes.
After all I ride a bicycle, a very convenient delightful economical
viable means of transport.
And we all know what YOU think of bicyclists. You think they are the
fuckwitted pits of humanity.
And because it is YOU who think that, that is an extremely great
compliment.
We must be doing something right.

arsebackward anus slapper

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