Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
too.

I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)

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On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
>the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
>system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
>plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
>too.
>
>I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
>boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)

There are things like this that cost next to nothing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92

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On Mon 17/05/2021 12:07, Don Pearce wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
>> the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
>> system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
>> plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
>> too.
>>
>> I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
>> boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
>
> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
>
> d
>

Except they have to come from China........

On Mon, 17 May 2021 13:11:32 +0100, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Mon 17/05/2021 12:07, Don Pearce wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
>> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
>>> the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
>>> system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
>>> plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
>>> too.
>>>
>>> I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
>>> boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
>>
>> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
>>
>> d
>>
>
>
>Except they have to come from China........

That's a lot easier than getting stuff from Europe these days.

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In article <60a24e5c.6393937@news.eternal-september.org>,
Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> >Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
> >the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
> >system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
> >plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
> >too.
> >
> >I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
> >boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)

> There are things like this that cost next to nothing

> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92

Well, apart from it using an external PS and being fixed output level. ;-)

My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on it.
Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will sound
low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU standard
for TV sound.

Hence my specific requirements.

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On 17 May 2021 at 14:15:13 BST, ""Dave Plowman" <News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <60a24e5c.6393937@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
>> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
>> >the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
>> >system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
>> >plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
>> >too.
>> >
>> >I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
>> >boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
>
>> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
>
> Well, apart from it using an external PS and being fixed output level. ;-)
>
> My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on it.
> Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will sound
> low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU standard
> for TV sound.
>
> Hence my specific requirements.

Could you take the power from a TV USB port? That'd get you part way there . .

In article <s7trtj$kqs$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 17 May 2021 at 14:15:13 BST, ""Dave Plowman" <News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
> wrote:

> > In article <60a24e5c.6393937@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> >> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> >Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather
> >> >than the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to
> >> >the AV system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can
> >> >just fit an IEC plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output
> >> >level would be nice too.
> >> >
> >> >I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too,
> >> >and boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
> >
> >> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
> >
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
> >
> > Well, apart from it using an external PS and being fixed output level.
> > ;-)
> >
> > My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on
> > it. Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will
> > sound low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU
> > standard for TV sound.
> >
> > Hence my specific requirements.

> Could you take the power from a TV USB port? That'd get you part way
> there . .

The sound system - mainly analogue with not a USB port in sight - is on
the other side of the room to the TV. And an optical cable already
installed between them. And I doubt USB volts would make it that far
anyway. ;-)

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On 5/17/21 6:31 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <s7trtj$kqs$1@gioia.aioe.org>,

> The sound system - mainly analogue with not a USB port in sight - is on
> the other side of the room to the TV. And an optical cable already
> installed between them. And I doubt USB volts would make it that far
> anyway. ;-)

It looks like no one wants to spend too much of your money! The internal
power requirement really narrows the field.

The S.M.S.L M500 has internal power, an optical input and a preamp mode.
It also has a headphone amp, MQA decoding and choice of balanced or
unbalanced outputs, as well as a figure-8 power cable.

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-with-volume/smsl-m500-v2-balanced-dac-es9038pro-headphone-amplifier-xmos-xu216-mqa-32bit-768khz-dsd512-black-p-14077.html

It measures well:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/smsl-m500-dac-and-hp-amp-review.9606/

I wonder whether the inventor of the internet every realist what long links
would be employed in just a few short years. Brian

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"Don Pearce" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:60a24e5c.6393937@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather than
>>the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to the AV
>>system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can just fit an IEC
>>plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output level would be nice
>>too.
>>
>>I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too, and
>>boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
>
> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
>
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> I wonder whether the inventor of the internet every realist what long links
> would be employed in just a few short years.

No need for it

https://ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315

In article <592e0bbff6dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on
> it. Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will
> sound low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU
> standard for TV sound.

My reaction has to been to DIY something like this

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/HeadDAC2/HeadDAC2.html

I think I got the DAC from CPC, but they are cheap ones made for
'installers'. Works fine.

Failing that, see if you can get a discounted example of the lowest CA DAC
Magic range before they cease to be available now the their 200M is
available! 8-]

Jim

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In article <592e941587noise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <592e0bbff6dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> > My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on
> > it. Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will
> > sound low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU
> > standard for TV sound.

> My reaction has to been to DIY something like this

> http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/HeadDAC2/HeadDAC2.html

> I think I got the DAC from CPC, but they are cheap ones made for
> 'installers'. Works fine.

> Failing that, see if you can get a discounted example of the lowest CA DAC
> Magic range before they cease to be available now the their 200M is
> available! 8-]

> Jim

It's a question of looks as well as decent performance, as it will be
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On 18/05/2021 00:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <s7trtj$kqs$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 17 May 2021 at 14:15:13 BST, ""Dave Plowman" <News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>
>>> In article <60a24e5c.6393937@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Don Pearce <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:57:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
>>>> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >Anyone recommend a decent one? I'd prefer an all in one unit rather
>>>> >than the type which uses a wall wart - as the power distribution to
>>>> >the AV system is IEC, rather than 13 amp. So a unit where I can
>>>> >just fit an IEC plug to would be the neatest way. Adjustable output
>>>> >level would be nice too.
>>>> >
>>>> >I do have one which fulfils those requirements, but does AES too,
>>>> >and boots up in the wrong mode. ;-)
>>>
>>>> There are things like this that cost next to nothing
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=383865838315&targetid=4585375810146219&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398826003&mkgroupid=1308419096949596&rlsatarget=pla-4585375810146219&abcId=9300499&merchantid=87779&msclkid=2b17624ba8c5136782ff02e9e685ed92
>>>
>>> Well, apart from it using an external PS and being fixed output level.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> My TV has a fixed output level to toslink. Not even the mute works on
>>> it. Now decent TV sound only peaks to -10dBFS, so this convertor will
>>> sound low level compared to other inputs. As it's not made to the EBU
>>> standard for TV sound.
>>>
>>> Hence my specific requirements.
>
>> Could you take the power from a TV USB port? That'd get you part way
>> there . .
>
> The sound system - mainly analogue with not a USB port in sight - is on
> the other side of the room to the TV. And an optical cable already
> installed between them. And I doubt USB volts would make it that far
> anyway. ;-)
>
https://ifi-audio.com/compare-ifi-products/?comparator-id=18244

On 19/05/2021 5:21 am, Andy Burns wrote:
> Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>
>> I wonder whether the inventor of the internet every realist what long links
>> would be employed in just a few short years.
>
> No need for it
>
> https://ebay.co.uk/itm/383865838315

LOL, that's what I thought when I saw the original URL.
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