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* Right to Privacy gone ?Phil Allison
+* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Max
|`* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Phil Allison
| `- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Rod Speed
+* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Rod Speed
|`* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Phil Allison
| `- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Rod Speed
+* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Sylvia Else
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|||| `* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?F Murtz
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||| `* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?F Murtz
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|`* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Max
| +- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Sylvia Else
| `- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Rod Speed
+* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Peter Jason
|`- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Rod Speed
`* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Sylvia Else
 `* Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Phil Allison
  `- Re: Right to Privacy gone ?Noodle

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: Right to Privacy gone ?
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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 14:54 UTC

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
> F Murtz wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Sylvia Else wrote

>>>>> https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/COVID-19-record-of-visitors-at-premises-form.pdf

>>>>> Several differing forms are in use - the above seems to be the newest.

>>>>> IME almost nobody uses the email alternative.

>>>> Typically, writing down a phone number takes less effort.

>>>> I think the only time most people are concerned about privacy is after
>>>> a lack of it has come back to bite them. Which is to say, when it's too
>>>> late.

>>> Too true.

>>> Scenario:

>>> Pretty young thing fills in form with her mobile number - while being
>>> watched by a male admirer/stalker.
>>> Same young thing uses her email - stalker tracks her down on the
>>> internet using it in a search engine.

>>> Swap young thing for someone in public life.
>>> Get the idea?

>>> The safer way to do this is with a tablet PC owned by the venue where a
>>> staffer keys in the info and then it disappears into a locked data base

>> Although you have to tell staffer both names and phone number or email
>> out loud where any one near can hear.

> afterthought, at least on paper you can use first name and a letter and
> purpose made email.

And its still legal to use an invented name that you
know you always give to the logging monkeys,.

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 by: F Murtz - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:49 UTC

On 27/11/21 2:05 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>
>>>> You can provide an email address instead of your phone number,
>
>> See pdf of actual form:
>
>> https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/COVID-19-record-of-visitors-at-premises-form.pdf
>>
>
>> Several differing forms are in use -  the above seems to be the newest.
>
>> IME   almost nobody uses the email alternative.
>
> Irrelevant, its allowed anyway.
I was in Bunnings today and I told girl writing my name and number into
electronic contraption that I could have given my email instead and she
said that I could not as she was not set up for that,So I said that she
might have to as it was law,so she said have a nice day.
If I feel in a curmudgeonly mood some day I may test it.

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Subject: Re: Right to Privacy gone ?
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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 15:45 UTC

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote

>>>>> You can provide an email address instead of your phone number,

>>> See pdf of actual form:

>>> https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/COVID-19-record-of-visitors-at-premises-form.pdf

>>> Several differing forms are in use - the above seems to be the newest.

>>> IME almost nobody uses the email alternative.

>> Irrelevant, its allowed anyway.

> I was in Bunnings today and I told girl writing my name and number into
> electronic contraption that I could have given my email instead and she
> said that I could not as she was not set up for that,

That’s Bunnings, not the law and you are free to use the QR code
system if you don’t like it or use someone other than Bunnings.

> So I said that she might have to as it was law,so she said have a nice
> day. If I feel in a curmudgeonly mood some day I may test it.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 08:03 UTC

On 27-Nov-21 10:53 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Hi,
>
> those who have smart phones can use them to check-in at shops and other venues including poling stations.
> While others have to complete a line on a paper register.
> Full name and phone number.
> All left open and visible to the next person.
> Cannot be legal.
>
> Discuss.
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>

Today at Northern Beaches hospital, I took issue with a guy who was
collecting sheets required to be completed by everyone entering, and
putting them face up on a pile visible to anyone who chose to look. I
pursuaded him to put them out of view, but I suspect they only stayed
there until I left.

Sylvia.

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 10:23 UTC

Sylvia Else wrote:
=============
> Phil Allison wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > those who have smart phones can use them to check-in at shops and other venues including poling stations.
> > While others have to complete a line on a paper register.
> > Full name and phone number.
> > All left open and visible to the next person.
> > Cannot be legal.
> >
> > Discuss.
> >
>
> Today at Northern Beaches hospital, I took issue with a guy who was
> collecting sheets required to be completed by everyone entering, and
> putting them face up on a pile visible to anyone who chose to look. I
> pursuaded him to put them out of view, but I suspect they only stayed
> there until I left.
>

** Correct suspicion.

Morons like him only do as told with no personal conscience involved.

Make perfectly good Nazis - delivering Jewish women and their kids to gas chambers.

........ Phil

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