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* charge droppedMax
+* Re: charge droppedSylvia Else
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`* Re: charge droppedRod Speed
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 by: Max - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 03:38 UTC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-07/covid-vaccination-fraud-charge-against-perth-nurse-dropped/100679152

Police in WA have dropped a fraud charge against a Perth nurse who was
accused of falsely recording that a teenager had been given a COVID-19
vaccine, when the jab was never administered.

Ms Benz was granted bail but today, when she made her second appearance
in court, the police prosecutor said the charge was being withdrawn.

No reason was given to the court.

----

Is there any way to find out why the charge was dropped? Seems strange
that this can happen without a reason being provided.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 04:16 UTC

On 07-Dec-21 2:38 pm, Max wrote:
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-07/covid-vaccination-fraud-charge-against-perth-nurse-dropped/100679152
>
>
> Police in WA have dropped a fraud charge against a Perth nurse who was
> accused of falsely recording that a teenager had been given a COVID-19
> vaccine, when the jab was never administered.
>
> Ms Benz was granted bail but today, when she made her second appearance
> in court, the police prosecutor said the charge was being withdrawn.
>
> No reason was given to the court.
>
> ----
>
> Is there any way to find out why the charge was dropped?  Seems strange
> that this can happen without a reason being provided.

Probably that they can't produce the evidence needed for proof beyond
reasonable doubt.

Sylvia.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 04:25 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-07/covid-vaccination-fraud-charge-against-perth-nurse-dropped/100679152

> Police in WA have dropped a fraud charge against a Perth nurse who was
> accused of falsely recording that a teenager had been given a COVID-19
> vaccine, when the jab was never administered.

> Ms Benz was granted bail but today, when she made her second appearance in
> court, the police prosecutor said the charge was being withdrawn.

> No reason was given to the court.

Given that she recruited lots of friends and relos to get a fake jab
and she is a rabid antivaxer, looks like she was deliberately making
it look like they had been jabbed so they could get a vax certificate
but the cops didn’t have proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Interesting that she got costs awarded in her favour.

But she has no chance of being employed as a nurse now.

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 by: Peter Jason - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 04:51 UTC

On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 15:25:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-07/covid-vaccination-fraud-charge-against-perth-nurse-dropped/100679152
>
>> Police in WA have dropped a fraud charge against a Perth nurse who was
>> accused of falsely recording that a teenager had been given a COVID-19
>> vaccine, when the jab was never administered.
>
>> Ms Benz was granted bail but today, when she made her second appearance in
>> court, the police prosecutor said the charge was being withdrawn.
>
>> No reason was given to the court.
>
>Given that she recruited lots of friends and relos to get a fake jab
>and she is a rabid antivaxer, looks like she was deliberately making
>it look like they had been jabbed so they could get a vax certificate
>but the cops didn’t have proof beyond reasonable doubt.
>
>Interesting that she got costs awarded in her favour.
>
>But she has no chance of being employed as a nurse now.

Who paid these "costs"?

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 05:44 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-07/covid-vaccination-fraud-charge-against-perth-nurse-dropped/100679152
>>
>>> Police in WA have dropped a fraud charge against a Perth nurse who was
>>> accused of falsely recording that a teenager had been given a COVID-19
>>> vaccine, when the jab was never administered.
>>
>>> Ms Benz was granted bail but today, when she made her second appearance
>>> in
>>> court, the police prosecutor said the charge was being withdrawn.
>>
>>> No reason was given to the court.
>>
>>Given that she recruited lots of friends and relos to get a fake jab
>>and she is a rabid antivaxer, looks like she was deliberately making
>>it look like they had been jabbed so they could get a vax certificate
>>but the cops didn't have proof beyond reasonable doubt.
>>
>>Interesting that she got costs awarded in her favour.
>>
>>But she has no chance of being employed as a nurse now.
>
> Who paid these "costs"?

The state, so WA taxpayers.

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 by: Phil Allison - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 05:48 UTC

Sylvia Else wrote:
=================
> Probably that they can't produce the evidence needed for proof beyond
> reasonable doubt.
>

** One possibility is not wanting to give the anti-vaxxers a *martyr*.

........ Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 06:28 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Sylvia Else wrote

>> Probably that they can't produce the evidence
>> needed for proof beyond reasonable doubt.

> One possibility is not wanting to give the anti-vaxxers a *martyr*.

Much more likely that ended up difficult to prove that a syringe
full of the vaccine in the bin had been put their deliberately by
that stupid cow to do the fraud given that she would have been
wearing gloves etc and had not actually injected the kid.

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 by: the cat lying on Zuc - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 08:43 UTC

Sylvia Else wrote:

>
> Probably that they can't produce the evidence needed for proof beyond
> reasonable doubt.
>
> Sylvia.

probably none of the anti-vaxxers who got fake jabs were willing to testify

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the cat lying on Zuckerberg's keyboard wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
> >
> > Probably that they can't produce the evidence needed for proof beyond
> > reasonable doubt.
>
> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who got fake jabs were willing to testify
>

** They do not need to be willing.

Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.

They have NO right to silence.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 16:30 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> the cat lying on Zuckerberg's keyboard wrote
>> Sylvia Else wrote

>>> Probably that they can't produce the evidence
>>> needed for proof beyond reasonable doubt.

>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>> got fake jabs were willing to testify

> They do not need to be willing.

> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.

> They have NO right to silence.

But they are free to say that they have no idea if
any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:42 UTC

Rod Ex-Speed Cop Arsehole wrote:
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> >> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
> >> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>
> > They do not need to be willing.
> > Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
> > They have NO right to silence.
>
> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>

** There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:36 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify

>>> They do not need to be willing.

>>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.

>>> They have NO right to silence.

>> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
>> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
>> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.

> There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.

Wrong with plenty of people and those anti vaxers are
free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
>

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 by: Max - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:06 UTC

On 9/12/2021 7:36 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>>>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>
>>>> They do not need to be willing.
>
>>>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
>
>>>> They have NO right to silence.
>
>>> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
>>> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
>>> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>
>> There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
>
> Wrong with plenty of people and those anti vaxers are
> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.
>

Do you think they would risk getting jailed for perjury for lying?

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:12 UTC

Rod Ex-Speed Cop Nut Case and IDIOT wrote:
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> >>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
> >>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>
> >>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
> >>> They have NO right to silence.
>
> >> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
> >> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
> >> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>
> > There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
>
> Wrong with plenty of people

** Bullshit.

> and those anti vaxers are
> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.
>

** Not likely all of them would risk jail by committing perjury in court.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:59 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>>>>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>>
>>>>> They do not need to be willing.
>>
>>>>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
>>
>>>>> They have NO right to silence.
>>
>>>> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
>>>> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
>>>> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>>
>>> There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
>>
>> Wrong with plenty of people and those anti vaxers are
>> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
>> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.
>>
> Do you think they would risk getting jailed for perjury for lying?

No risk involved because there is no way to prove that they did lie.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:04 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>> >>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>>
>> >>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
>> >>> They have NO right to silence.
>>
>> >> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
>> >> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
>> >> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>>
>> > There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
>>
>> Wrong with plenty of people

> Bullshit.

Fact and plenty in here have said that.

>> and those anti vaxers are
>> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
>> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.

> Not likely all of them would risk jail by committing perjury in court.

There is no risk of jail because there is no way to prove what effect they
got.

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:16 UTC

Rod Ex- Speed Cop Half Wit and LIAR wrote:
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> >> >>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
> >> >>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
> >>
> >> >>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must comply.
> >> >>> They have NO right to silence.
> >>
> >> >> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
> >> >> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
> >> >> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
> >>
> >> > There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
> >>
> >> Wrong with plenty of people
> > Bullshit.
>
> Fact and plenty in here have said that.

** Double bullshit.

> >> and those anti vaxers are
> >> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
> >> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.
> > Not likely all of them would risk jail by committing perjury in court.
>
> There is no risk of jail because there is no way to prove what effect they
> got.

** Meaningless bullshit.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 00:40 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >> >>>> probably none of the anti-vaxxers who
>> >> >>>> got fake jabs were willing to testify
>> >>
>> >> >>> Witnesses are simply issued summonses by the police and must
>> >> >>> comply.
>> >> >>> They have NO right to silence.
>> >>
>> >> >> But they are free to say that they have no idea if
>> >> >> any of the vaccine ended up in their arm. I know
>> >> >> that when I got mine, you couldn’t feel it going in.
>> >>
>> >> > There are very noticeable after effects of the vaccine.
>> >>
>> >> Wrong with plenty of people
>> > Bullshit.
>>
>> Fact and plenty in here have said that.

<your traditional response when even you realises that you have
got done like a fucking dinner, as always, flushed where it belongs>

>> >> and those anti vaxers are
>> >> free to say that they got commonly seen after effects
>> >> and there is no way to prove now that they didn’t.

>> > Not likely all of them would risk jail by committing perjury in court.

>> There is no risk of jail because there is no way to prove what effect
>> they got.

<your traditional response when even you realises that you have
got done like a fucking dinner, as always, flushed where it belongs>

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