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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:36 UTC

Oh dear!

“Gathers momentum” are the words used in a BBC News headline to an article published yesterday (link is external)referring to the petition launched back in June by solicitor Nick ‘Mr Loophole’ Freeman calling on cyclists and e-scooter riders to be required, among other things, to wear hi-vis tabards with identification numbers – the only problem being that the petition actually closed last week.

And while, as the BBC correctly points out, the number of signatures it attracted means the government will have to give a response to the petition, we already have a strong hint of what the answer will be thanks to a question asked in the House of Lords back in June.

In its article, the broadcaster said that the petition aimed to “crack down on nuisance cycling” – even though the changes to the law being called for by the Manchester-based solicitor, who has helped celebrity clients including David Beckham and Sir Alex Ferguson secure acquittals on motoring-related offences, would apply to anyone riding a bike.

Like all petitions published on the Parliament.uk website, the petition ran for six months. It was posted in June, ran for six months, and it closed last Tuesday 7 December having amassed 10,498 signatures.

It broke the 10,000-signature threshold above which the government is obliged to provide a response – due within the next nine days – with less than 24 hours to go until it closed, despite Freeman repeatedly taking to print and broadcast media, including The Telegraph (link is external) and BBC Radio 4, to urge people to support it.

Posted under the heading, Introduce new requirements for cyclists/e-scooters: visible ID, licences, etc (link is external), Freeman wrote:

The Government should require cyclists and e-scooter riders display visible ID, require that cycle lanes be used where available, and introduce a licensing and penalty point system for all cyclists and licensing system for escooter riders.

Roads are now shared with more cyclists and e-scooters than ever. Yet cyclists and e-scooter riders aren`t currently held accountable in same way as drivers.

Cycle lanes can be safer yet are often not-used. A licence scheme and penalty points system should ensure responsible cycling and e-scooter use.

"Without some kind of registration scheme we have no idea who might be riding a bike or an e-scooter,” Freeman – who in 2007 got Jeremy Clarkson cleared of a speeding charge (link is external) because the prosecution had been unable to prove that the then Top Gear presenter had been driving the car in question at the time of the alleged offence – told the BBC.

“Those who use them can recklessly flout the law with impunity - say, jumping red lights, weaving on and off pavements and even knocking down pedestrians,” added the solicitor, who – who has previously called for pedestrians to be forced to wear reflective clothing at night after a driver he represented was convicted of causing the death of a rabbi through careless driving.

> Make pedestrians wear reflective clothing, says ‘Mr Loophole’ lawyer who defended killer driver

And as for what we expect the government’s response to the petition to be, at least insofar as it relates to cyclists?

Well, at the end of June – three weeks after the petition had been posted and Freeman had made his initial rounds of the media to promote it – Lord Berkeley, patron of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Cycling & Walking, posed a written question to the government in the House of Lords on the issues it raised.

> Minister repeats there is no prospect of requiring cyclists to be licensed as ‘Mr Loophole’ lawyer Nick Freeman continues to push his petition

In a written question, he asked the government “what assessment they have made of the possible (1) advantages, and (2) disadvantages, of introducing a licensing system for cyclists.”

Responding to the Labour peer, Baroness Vere of Norbiton, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Transport, said: “The government considered this matter carefully as part of the cycling and walking safety review in 2018, and has no plans to introduce such a system.

“Cycling brings many benefits, particularly in terms of health and the environment, and the government is keen to encourage rather than restrict it.

“Cyclists must respect the rules of the road as set out in The Highway Code and enforcement of cycling offences is a matter for the police.

“The introduction of a licensing system would be likely to deter many people from cycling and the costs and complexity of introducing and administering such a system, would be likely to outweigh any road safety or other benefits,” she added.

Earlier this month, Freeman was set straight by Surrey Police’s road policing unit on Twitter after he posted a video in which he suggested – incorrectly – that a group of cyclists riding two abreast ahead of the vehicle he was travelling in on a winding road were breaking the law.

And while his petition may, at the 11th hour, have gone over the 10,000 signatures it needed for the government to have to respond, it secured barely a tenth of the 100,000 needed for it to even be considered for a House of Commons debate by the Backbench Business Committee.

https://road.cc/content/news/loophole-petition-gathers-momentum-or-maybe-not-288699

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 by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:19 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Oh dear!
>
>> https://road.cc/content/news/loophole-petition-gathers-momentum-or-maybe-not-288699

Have you ever had an original thought?
You really are a thick cunt.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:59 UTC

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:20:13 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Oh dear!
> >
> >> https://road.cc/content/news/loophole-petition-gathers-momentum-or-maybe-not-288699
>
>
>
> Have you ever had an original thought?

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 03:37 UTC

On 15/12/2021 06:36 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh dear!
>
> “Gathers momentum” are the words used in a BBC News headline to an article published yesterday (link is external)referring to the petition launched back in June by solicitor Nick ‘Mr Loophole’ Freeman calling on fairy-cyclists and e-scooter riders to be required, among other things, to wear hi-vis tabards with identification numbers – the only problem being that the petition actually closed last week.
>
> And while, as the BBC correctly points out, the number of signatures it attracted means the government will have to give a response to the petition, we already have a strong hint of what the answer will be thanks to a question asked in the House of Lords back in June.
>
> In its article, the broadcaster said that the petition aimed to “crack down on nuisance fairy-cycling” – even though the changes to the law being called for by the Manchester-based solicitor, who has helped celebrity clients including David Beckham and Sir Alex Ferguson secure acquittals on motoring-related offences, would apply to anyone riding a fairy-bike.
>
> Like all petitions published on the Parliament.uk website, the petition ran for six months. It was posted in June, ran for six months, and it closed last Tuesday 7 December having amassed 10,498 signatures.
>
> It broke the 10,000-signature threshold above which the government is obliged to provide a response – due within the next nine days – with less than 24 hours to go until it closed, despite Freeman repeatedly taking to print and broadcast media, including The Telegraph (link is external) and BBC Radio 4, to urge people to support it.
>
> Posted under the heading, Introduce new requirements for fairy-cyclists/e-scooters: visible ID, licences, etc (link is external), Freeman wrote:
>
> The Government should require fairy-cyclists and e-scooter riders display visible ID, require that fairy-cycle lanes be used where available, and introduce a licensing and penalty point system for all fairy-cyclists and licensing system for escooter riders.
>
> Roads are now shared with more fairy-cyclists and e-scooters than ever. Yet fairy-cyclists and e-scooter riders aren`t currently held accountable in same way as drivers.
>
> Fairy-Cycle lanes can be safer yet are often not-used. A licence scheme and penalty points system should ensure responsible fairy-cycling and e-scooter use.
>
> "Without some kind of registration scheme we have no idea who might be riding a fairy-bike or an e-scooter,” Freeman – who in 2007 got Jeremy Clarkson cleared of a speeding charge (link is external) because the prosecution had been unable to prove that the then Top Gear presenter had been driving the car in question at the time of the alleged offence – told the BBC.

Fancy getting off with a charge simply because there's no proof that you
did it!

It's anarchy, I tell you!
>
> “Those who use them can recklessly flout the law with impunity - say, jumping red lights, weaving on and off pavements and even knocking down pedestrians,” added the solicitor, who – who has previously called for pedestrians to be forced to wear reflective clothing at night after a driver he represented was convicted of causing the death of a rabbi through careless driving.
>
>> Make pedestrians wear reflective clothing, says ‘Mr Loophole’ lawyer who defended killer driver
>
> And as for what we expect the government’s response to the petition to be, at least insofar as it relates to fairy-cyclists?
>
> Well, at the end of June – three weeks after the petition had been posted and Freeman had made his initial rounds of the media to promote it – Lord Berkeley, patron of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Fairy-Cycling & Walking, posed a written question to the government in the House of Lords on the issues it raised.
>
>> Minister repeats there is no prospect of requiring fairy-cyclists to be licensed as ‘Mr Loophole’ lawyer Nick Freeman continues to push his petition
>
> In a written question, he asked the government “what assessment they have made of the possible (1) advantages, and (2) disadvantages, of introducing a licensing system for fairy-cyclists.”
>
> Responding to the Labour peer, Baroness Vere of Norbiton, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Transport, said: “The government considered this matter carefully as part of the fairy-cycling and walking safety review in 2018, and has no plans to introduce such a system.
>
> “Fairy-Cycling brings many benefits, particularly in terms of health and the environment, and the government is keen to encourage rather than restrict it.
>
> “Fairy-Cyclists must respect the rules of the road as set out in The Highway Code and enforcement of fairy-cycling offences is a matter for the police.
>
> “The introduction of a licensing system would be likely to deter many people from fairy-cycling and the costs and complexity of introducing and administering such a system, would be likely to outweigh any road safety or other benefits,” she added.
>
> Earlier this month, Freeman was set straight by Surrey Police’s road policing unit on Twitter after he posted a video in which he suggested – incorrectly – that a group of fairy-cyclists riding two abreast ahead of the vehicle he was travelling in on a winding road were breaking the law.
>
> And while his petition may, at the 11th hour, have gone over the 10,000 signatures it needed for the government to have to respond, it secured barely a tenth of the 100,000 needed for it to even be considered for a House of Commons debate by the Backbench Business Committee.
>
> https://road.cc/content/news/loophole-petition-gathers-momentum-or-maybe-not-288699

Why do you (and the ridiculous semi-literate road.cc) keep misspelling
"fairy-cyclist"?

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 by: Peter Keller - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:25 UTC

On 16/12/21 08:19, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> Have you ever had an original thought?
> You really are a thick cunt.

Thanks greatly for the compliment from YOU.

POISONOUS BUNCH-BACKED TOAD SILLY OLD TROUT


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