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* Scooters.Peter Jason
+* Re: Scooters.Phil Allison
|+* Re: Scooters.Peter Jason
||+- Re: Scooters.Phil Allison
||`- Re: Scooters.Rod Speed
|`* Re: Scooters.Max
| +- Re: Scooters.Phil Allison
| `- Re: Scooters.Rod Speed
+* Re: Scooters.Sylvia Else
|`* Re: Scooters.Peter Jason
| `- Re: Scooters.Rod Speed
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 by: Peter Jason - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 21:34 UTC

These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
legal, on roads & footpaths!

Then why are these safer ones illegal?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

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Subject: Re: Scooters.
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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 22:03 UTC

Peter Jason Troll wrote:
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> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
> legal, on roads & footpaths!

** Not legal on roads.

> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

** Horribly unsafe.
Wot a dumb troll.

...... Phil

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Subject: Re: Scooters.
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 by: Peter Jason - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 22:38 UTC

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:03:52 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason Troll wrote:
>=====================
>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
>> legal, on roads & footpaths!
>
>** Not legal on roads.
>
>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
>
>
>** Horribly unsafe.

Like scooters....?

> Wot a dumb troll.
Pot, Kettle, Black!
>
>..... Phil

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Peter Jason Troll wrote:
=====================
>
> >> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
> >> legal, on roads & footpaths!
> >
> >** Not legal on roads.
> >
> >> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
> >> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
> >
> >
> >** Horribly unsafe.
>
> Like scooters....?
>

** Only a total fuckwit could fail to see the difference.

...... Phil

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 by: Max - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:26 UTC

On 16/12/2021 9:03 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Peter Jason Troll wrote:
> =====================
>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
>> legal, on roads & footpaths!
>
> ** Not legal on roads.
>
>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
>
>
> ** Horribly unsafe.

Then why are they used by staff at major airports around the world?

> Wot a dumb troll.
>

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:29 UTC

On 16-Dec-21 8:34 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
> legal, on roads & footpaths!
>
> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
>

These rely on functioning electronics and motors for their safety. In
consequence, they have obvious failure modes that would render them very
unsafe.

This is very different from a scooter in which a failure would just
cause it to stop.

Sylvia.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:12 UTC

Moronic Idiot Max wrote:
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> > Peter Jason Troll wrote:
> > =====================
> >> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
> >> legal, on roads & footpaths!
> >
> > ** Not legal on roads.
> >
> >> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
> >> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
> >
> >
> > ** Horribly unsafe.
>
> Then why are they used by staff at major airports around the world?
>

** Since when has a thing merely being unsafe stopped anyone ?

Hang gliders, ultralights, sky diving, powerboat racing....

...... Phil

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 by: Peter Jason - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:47 UTC

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 10:29:02 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 16-Dec-21 8:34 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere and seem to be
>> legal, on roads & footpaths!
>>
>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg
>>
>
>These rely on functioning electronics and motors for their safety. In
>consequence, they have obvious failure modes that would render them very
>unsafe.
>
>This is very different from a scooter in which a failure would just
>cause it to stop.
>
>Sylvia.

I was thinking more of the miscreants falling under and being minced
up by a tram, dragged for miles under a bus, squashed to a pulp
between autos, and tripping and head-butting a concrete kerb. Even
the curse-of-the-roads cyclists come to grief in many ways.

Still, the Segways are very expensive which tends to limit their use.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:54 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere
> and seem to be legal, on roads & footpaths!

No they are not legal on roads.
> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

They are in fact much more dangerous.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:56 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>Peter Jason wrote

>>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere
>>> and seem to be legal, on roads & footpaths!

>> Not legal on roads.

>>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

>> Horribly unsafe.

> Like scooters....?

Nope, scooters are much safer because they don't tip over in the front to
back direction.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:57 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Peter Jason wrote

>>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere
>>> and seem to be legal, on roads & footpaths!
>> Not legal on roads.
>>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

>> Horribly unsafe.
> Then why are they used by staff at major airports around the world?

Fuck all of them are.

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: Scooters.
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:01:11 +1100
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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 01:01 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>> Peter Jason wrote

>>> These motorized gadgets are whizzing about everywhere
>>> and seem to be legal, on roads & footpaths!

>>> Then why are these safer ones illegal?
>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OH4AAOSwmRNgnFtf/s-l600.jpg

>> These rely on functioning electronics and motors for their safety.
>> In consequence, they have obvious failure modes that would
>> render them very unsafe.

>> This is very different from a scooter in which
>> a failure would just cause it to stop.

> I was thinking more of the miscreants falling under and being minced
> up by a tram, dragged for miles under a bus, squashed to a pulp
> between autos, and tripping and head-butting a concrete kerb.

That's why they are all illegal on the roads.

> Even the curse-of-the-roads cyclists come to grief in many ways.

But its not feasible to make those illegal.
> Still, the Segways are very expensive which tends to limit their use.

And plenty more are actually stupid enough to use them.

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