I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within the EU.
The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer, shipping from
Holland. The first problem was that the website would not accept my
credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank transfer. Not a good
plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I could not get a
response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross between "Number
Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online Chat, and got a
confirmation that the charge card payment system was indeed down. They
are still trying to find out why my 'phone number is blocked.
I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the order confirmation that
the Postcode for me was missing one digit, so I sent a message with the
correct Postcode. This appears to have not been passed to the shipping
dept., and the courier says that it has been delivered, to somewhere
unknown, and I am still waiting to receive my battery.

In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a message
from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me options to
change the delivery details. I filled in the section for what to do if
I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it replied that it
had made this the default address for delivery, and listed an address
which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.

Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.

--
Davey.

In message <t3ok40$7ef$1@dont-email.me>, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
writes
>I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within the EU.
>The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer, shipping from
>Holland. The first problem was that the website would not accept my
>credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank transfer. Not a good
>plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I could not get a
>response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross between "Number
>Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online Chat, and got a
>confirmation that the charge card payment system was indeed down. They
>are still trying to find out why my 'phone number is blocked.
>I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the order confirmation that
>the Postcode for me was missing one digit, so I sent a message with the
>correct Postcode. This appears to have not been passed to the shipping
>dept., and the courier says that it has been delivered, to somewhere
>unknown, and I am still waiting to receive my battery.
>
>In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a message
>from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me options to
>change the delivery details. I filled in the section for what to do if
>I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it replied that it
>had made this the default address for delivery, and listed an address
>which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.
>
>Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.
>
With probably more actual justification, 'due to Brexit'?
--
Ian

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:33:46 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <t3ok40$7ef$1@dont-email.me>, Davey
> <davey@example.invalid> writes
> >I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within the
> >EU. The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer, shipping
> >from Holland. The first problem was that the website would not
> >accept my credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank transfer.
> >Not a good plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I could not
> >get a response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross between
> >"Number Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online Chat,
> >and got a confirmation that the charge card payment system was
> >indeed down. They are still trying to find out why my 'phone number
> >is blocked. I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the order
> >confirmation that the Postcode for me was missing one digit, so I
> >sent a message with the correct Postcode. This appears to have not
> >been passed to the shipping dept., and the courier says that it has
> >been delivered, to somewhere unknown, and I am still waiting to
> >receive my battery.
> >
> >In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a
> >message from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me
> >options to change the delivery details. I filled in the section for
> >what to do if I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it
> >replied that it had made this the default address for delivery, and
> >listed an address which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.
> >
> >Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.
> >
> With probably more actual justification, 'due to Brexit'?

Well, the item from Holland arrived in the UK speedily, then stopped
in Snetterton for days, as TNT could not parse the incomplete
Postcode, which had not been updated by the seller. TNT then delivered
it somewhere, but we don't know where. I hardly think that is due to
Brexit.

The second item is shipping, from stock, wholly within the UK, so
again I hardly think that is due to Brexit. The confusion is entirely
DPD's fault, not the seller's.

Basically, it's just due to incompetence, at one organisation
or the other.

--
Davey.

"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:t3ovps$75q$1@dont-email.me...

> Well, the item from Holland arrived in the UK speedily, then stopped
> in Snetterton for days, as TNT could not parse the incomplete
> Postcode, which had not been updated by the seller. TNT then delivered
> it somewhere, but we don't know where. I hardly think that is due to
> Brexit.

You'd think that couriers and Royal Mail would have a procedure for coping
with invalid postcodes. The most obvious is to look up the house number /
street part of the address on the Royal Mail database, and correct the
postcode. Yes, it's a few extra steps in an otherwise automated process, so
there may be a delay while the parcel is taken out of the automated line and
handled manually. But I presume the number of invalid postcodes is fairly
small, so it's not as if there would be a huge backlog of parcels to be
processed manually.

I once had a problem with a parcel that I was sending to a town about 15
miles away, which would have been handled in the Royal Mail sorting office
in the nearest city, roughly in between me and the recipient.

I'd been given the wrong postcode - I think two characters had been
reversed. I posted it, and received it back the following day (I'd written
my address as "sender" on the back). So I wrote "TO" in very large letters
on the correct side and "FROM" on the other side. And again it came back
again. No explanation - no Royal Mail sticker saying "Cannot deliver due to
incorrect postcode". It was my postman who said "I wonder if there's an
error in the postcode" and even came back to my house a few minutes later
after he'd delivered to the rest of my street to collect the parcel after
I'd checked and corrected the postcode.

But sometimes you get some *very* odd mis-deliveries. We once got a
Christmas card addressed to our house number and street, but for a town in
another part of the country. The postcode matched the address as it had been
given (ie it was not ours).

So some sorting process had ignored the postcode and the town, and decided
that it knew where there was an Acacia Avenue in the country - but it chose
the wrong one.

Mistakes occur, especially with the large volumes of mail before Christmas,
but I can't see how that one occurred because it involved someone at the
sender's end thinking that they recognised the street name.

We always check delivery addresses very carefully when we are ordering by
mail order, because there is a road of our name in our village and also in
the town that is a few miles away (it's a common name, equivalent to "High
Street"). So we check that the address has correctly recorded our village
name. I came across one company which translated our postcode wrongly,
omitting the village and listing only the nearest "post town" - which is the
one with the duplicate street name.

Normally our address (as translated from the postcode) is of the form

1 Acacia Avenue
Village
Town
Postcode

and

1 Acacia Avenue
Town
Postcode

is wrong (if someone doesn't check the postcode).

People normally use postcodes, but without the correct village name there is
always the chance that someone with local knowledge will assume the postal
town.

Some non-UK mail order companies can't cope with the concept of a district
(of a town) or a village in an address, and so do not have such a field. In
that case I find the best thing is to correct it manually as "1 Acacia
Avenue, Village" on one line and town on the next line.

On 20/04/2022 14:21, NY wrote:
> But sometimes you get some *very* odd mis-deliveries. We once got a
> Christmas card addressed to our house number and street, but for a town
> in another part of the country. The postcode matched the address as it
> had been given (ie it was not ours).

I recently got a letter for someone who has not lived in this property
for at least 30 years, if ever. I.e. not known to me and not the people
I bought it from...

--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

On 20/04/2022 14:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/04/2022 14:21, NY wrote:
>> But sometimes you get some *very* odd mis-deliveries. We once got a
>> Christmas card addressed to our house number and street, but for a
>> town in another part of the country. The postcode matched the address
>> as it had been given (ie it was not ours).
>
> I recently got a letter for someone who has not lived in this property
> for at least 30 years, if ever. I.e. not known to me and not the people
> I bought it from...

I still get one every year about an orphaned pension policy that still
points at my address. Apparently they are obliged by law to keep sending
them until the rightful owner replies. Hell will freeze over first!

I wonder if they eventually stop when their pensioner's age exceeds 120
or just keep on doing it forever?

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote
> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote

>> I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within the EU.
>> The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer, shipping from
>> Holland. The first problem was that the website would not accept my
>> credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank transfer. Not a good
>> plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I could not get a
>> response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross between "Number
>> Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online Chat, and got a
>> confirmation that the charge card payment system was indeed down. They
>> are still trying to find out why my 'phone number is blocked.
>> I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the order confirmation that
>> the Postcode for me was missing one digit, so I sent a message with the
>> correct Postcode. This appears to have not been passed to the shipping
>> dept., and the courier says that it has been delivered, to somewhere
>> unknown, and I am still waiting to receive my battery.
>>
>> In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a message
>> from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me options to
>> change the delivery details. I filled in the section for what to do if
>> I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it replied that it
>> had made this the default address for delivery, and listed an address
>> which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.
>>
>> Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.
>>
> With probably more actual justification, 'due to Brexit'?

That would be a lie with both his examples.

On 20/04/2022 10:34, Davey wrote:
> I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within the EU.
> The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer, shipping from
> Holland. The first problem was that the website would not accept my
> credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank transfer. Not a good
> plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I could not get a
> response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross between "Number
> Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online Chat, and got a
> confirmation that the charge card payment system was indeed down. They
> are still trying to find out why my 'phone number is blocked.
> I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the order confirmation that
> the Postcode for me was missing one digit, so I sent a message with the
> correct Postcode. This appears to have not been passed to the shipping
> dept., and the courier says that it has been delivered, to somewhere
> unknown, and I am still waiting to receive my battery.

They are not obliged to accept your order and you will probably find
that they will never do so again. I had the same problem in reverse when
I lived in Belgium and bought stuff from the UK. One consignment was
stolen in transit and they changed their policy to never export again.

> In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a message
> from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me options to
> change the delivery details. I filled in the section for what to do if
> I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it replied that it
> had made this the default address for delivery, and listed an address
> which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.

I have never seen a sales order system that didn't have a good postcode
to houses on the road. My own address causes some trouble since there is
no street name at all! I alternate between "No Street", "Main Street"
and "Only Street" depending on how I am feeling when forced to choose.

I have only had stuff go missing when it has either been stolen from the
van in transit or entrained in a similar shipment sent to another
customer. Thank goodness for the photos of where things have been
delivered. It had indeed been delivered and signed for that day but it
wasn't by me and it wasn't my house on the picture (or anywhere close).

> Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.

Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly any small
suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want small stuff from the EU
you pretty much have to go there in person and buy it yourself.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

> On 20/04/2022 10:34, Davey wrote:
> > I am having problems with two shipments, both originating within
> > the EU. The first, from a well-know UPS battery manufacturer,
> > shipping from Holland. The first problem was that the website would
> > not accept my credit card details, but wanted me to use a bank
> > transfer. Not a good plan. On trying to call them to use my card, I
> > could not get a response from their Helpline, all I got was a cross
> > between "Number Unobtainable" and "Busy". Eventually, I used Online
> > Chat, and got a confirmation that the charge card payment system
> > was indeed down. They are still trying to find out why my 'phone
> > number is blocked. I ordered a battery from them, and saw on the
> > order confirmation that the Postcode for me was missing one digit,
> > so I sent a message with the correct Postcode. This appears to have
> > not been passed to the shipping dept., and the courier says that it
> > has been delivered, to somewhere unknown, and I am still waiting to
> > receive my battery.
>
> They are not obliged to accept your order and you will probably find
> that they will never do so again. I had the same problem in reverse
> when I lived in Belgium and bought stuff from the UK. One consignment
> was stolen in transit and they changed their policy to never export
> again.
>
That makes no sense. They accepted my order, but there was a mistake
with the Postcode. I sent them a correction, they failed to update
their order information, and gave TNT the wrong Postcode. They
accept this. They have now shipped me a replacement battery, why would
they refuse to accept a future order from me? It wasn't me that caused
the problem.

> > In another scenario, yesterday I ordered an SSD, and received a
> > message from DPD that it would be delivered tomorrow, which gave me
> > options to change the delivery details. I filled in the section for
> > what to do if I was not at home, to deliver to a neighbour, and it
> > replied that it had made this the default address for delivery, and
> > listed an address which does not exist in my village. Ho hum.
>
> I have never seen a sales order system that didn't have a good
> postcode to houses on the road. My own address causes some trouble
> since there is no street name at all! I alternate between "No
> Street", "Main Street" and "Only Street" depending on how I am
> feeling when forced to choose.
>
I agree that either, or both, the Seller and/or TNT should have flagged
the error early on, the Postcode they used does not exist. We still
don't know where it went to.

> I have only had stuff go missing when it has either been stolen from
> the van in transit or entrained in a similar shipment sent to another
> customer. Thank goodness for the photos of where things have been
> delivered. It had indeed been delivered and signed for that day but
> it wasn't by me and it wasn't my house on the picture (or anywhere
> close).
>
> > Is this due to Covid, maybe? That's the usual excuse nowadays.
>
> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly any
> small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want small stuff
> from the EU you pretty much have to go there in person and buy it
> yourself.
>
Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the internal
delivery that has failed.

--
Davey.

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 19:29:37 +0200
Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 02:54:10 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer
> Rodent Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered,
> again:
>
> <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
>

He, is, however, correct, whatever you think of him.

--
Davey.

On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 12:49:43 +0200
Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> wrote:

> Rodent Speed, the auto-contradicting

In this case, he did not contradict anybody, so he was right and you
are wrong. That does not always apply, I grant you, but in this
instance, it does.

--
Davey.

On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
>Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>

>> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly any
>> small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want small stuff
>> from the EU you pretty much have to go there in person and buy it
>> yourself.
>>
>Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
>failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the internal
>delivery that has failed.

Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic item
- weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
area", so additional carriage charges would apply.

Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
via UPS, with full tracking information.

I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than four
hours by (direct) train from York.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:27 +0100
John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >
>
> >> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly any
> >> small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want small stuff
> >> from the EU you pretty much have to go there in person and buy it
> >> yourself.
> >>
> >Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
> >failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the
> >internal delivery that has failed.
>
> Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic item
> - weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
> the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
> area", so additional carriage charges would apply.
>
> Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
> cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
> via UPS, with full tracking information.
>
> I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than four
> hours by (direct) train from York.

'Remote Area'? Ye gods, maybe they are punishing the Scots for Nicola
Sturgeon and her dismal performance. Either that, or just trying to
find an excuse to load up the costs to you.
--
Davey.

In message <t3tor3$7fh$1@dont-email.me>, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
writes
>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:27 +0100
>John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
>> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly any
>> >> small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want small stuff
>> >> from the EU you pretty much have to go there in person and buy it
>> >> yourself.
>> >>
>> >Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
>> >failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the
>> >internal delivery that has failed.
>>
>> Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic item
>> - weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
>> the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
>> area", so additional carriage charges would apply.
>>
>> Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
>> cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
>> via UPS, with full tracking information.
>>
>> I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than four
>> hours by (direct) train from York.
>
>'Remote Area'? Ye gods, maybe they are punishing the Scots for Nicola
>Sturgeon and her dismal performance. Either that, or just trying to
>find an excuse to load up the costs to you.

Just wait until next year, when they vote for and declare UDI, and then
join the EU!
--
Ian

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:39:22 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <t3tor3$7fh$1@dont-email.me>, Davey
> <davey@example.invalid> writes
> >On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:27 +0100
> >John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
> >> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly
> >> >> any small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want
> >> >> small stuff from the EU you pretty much have to go there in
> >> >> person and buy it yourself.
> >> >>
> >> >Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
> >> >failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the
> >> >internal delivery that has failed.
> >>
> >> Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic
> >> item
> >> - weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
> >> the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
> >> area", so additional carriage charges would apply.
> >>
> >> Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
> >> cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
> >> via UPS, with full tracking information.
> >>
> >> I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than
> >> four hours by (direct) train from York.
> >
> >'Remote Area'? Ye gods, maybe they are punishing the Scots for Nicola
> >Sturgeon and her dismal performance. Either that, or just trying to
> >find an excuse to load up the costs to you.
>
> Just wait until next year, when they vote for and declare UDI, and
> then join the EU!

I doubt that the EU would want them! It will be interesting to see how
they keep the finances in the black if it ever happens.
--
Davey.

The replacement battery has been shipped. Unfortunately, according to
TNT:

" Shipment delayed in transit Recovery actions underway".

Here we go again. It's a good thing that the equipment protected by this
UPS is not mission-critical!

--
Davey.

In message <t3u8cr$kr$1@dont-email.me>, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
writes
>On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:39:22 +0100
>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <t3tor3$7fh$1@dont-email.me>, Davey
>> <davey@example.invalid> writes
>> >On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:27 +0100
>> >John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
>> >> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly
>> >> >> any small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want
>> >> >> small stuff from the EU you pretty much have to go there in
>> >> >> person and buy it yourself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
>> >> >failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the
>> >> >internal delivery that has failed.
>> >>
>> >> Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic
>> >> item
>> >> - weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
>> >> the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
>> >> area", so additional carriage charges would apply.
>> >>
>> >> Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
>> >> cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
>> >> via UPS, with full tracking information.
>> >>
>> >> I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than
>> >> four hours by (direct) train from York.
>> >
>> >'Remote Area'? Ye gods, maybe they are punishing the Scots for Nicola
>> >Sturgeon and her dismal performance. Either that, or just trying to
>> >find an excuse to load up the costs to you.
>>
>> Just wait until next year, when they vote for and declare UDI, and
>> then join the EU!
>
>I doubt that the EU would want them! It will be interesting to see how
>they keep the finances in the black if it ever happens.

Well, for a start, they DO happen to have a lot of Scottish oil.....
--
Ian

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 22:51:39 +1000, Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:39:22 +0100
> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <t3tor3$7fh$1@dont-email.me>, Davey
>> <davey@example.invalid> writes
>> >On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:56:27 +0100
>> >John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:36:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:26:16 +0100
>> >> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >> Brexit has made it so hard to export single items that hardly
>> >> >> any small suppliers are prepared to do it now. If you want
>> >> >> small stuff from the EU you pretty much have to go there in
>> >> >> person and buy it yourself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Again, this has nothing to do with Brexit, it is an administrative
>> >> >failure. Shipment from Holland to the UK was quick, it is the
>> >> >internal delivery that has failed.
>> >>
>> >> Last month, I was about to place an order for a small electronic
>> >> item
>> >> - weight c 1Kg - from a company based in York. Just before I placed
>> >> the order, I noticed that they considered me to live in a "remote
>> >> area", so additional carriage charges would apply.
>> >>
>> >> Back on line, I found the same item from a German company. Slightly
>> >> cheaper price, including carriage and VAT. Delivery was very quick,
>> >> via UPS, with full tracking information.
>> >>
>> >> I live less than half a mile from Dundee city centre. Less than
>> >> four hours by (direct) train from York.
>> >
>> >'Remote Area'? Ye gods, maybe they are punishing the Scots for Nicola
>> >Sturgeon and her dismal performance. Either that, or just trying to
>> >find an excuse to load up the costs to you.
>>
>> Just wait until next year, when they vote for and declare UDI, and
>> then join the EU!
>
> I doubt that the EU would want them!

Bet it does, because it would make the EU look good.

> It will be interesting to see how
> they keep the finances in the black if it ever happens.

Handouts from the EU like Eire and the old eastern block
states like Rumania got.

Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Handouts from the EU like Eire and the old eastern block
> states like Rumania got.

.... and what is wrong with helping the less well off?

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 20:07:54 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

> Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Handouts from the EU like Eire and the old eastern block states like
>> Rumania got.
>
> ... and what is wrong with helping the less well off?

Yes, he's exhibiting the "I'm all right Jock" mentality! :)

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 05:07:54 +1000, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

> Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Handouts from the EU like Eire and the old eastern block
>> states like Rumania got.
>
> ... and what is wrong with helping the less well off?

Never said that there is anything wrong with that.

He asked how scotland would manage financially
when out of the UK and in the EU.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:54:25 +0100
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

> The replacement battery has been shipped. Unfortunately, according to
> TNT:
>
> " Shipment delayed in transit Recovery actions underway".
>
> Here we go again. It's a good thing that the equipment protected by
> this UPS is not mission-critical!
>

It's making slooooooooow progress through the TNT process:
25/04/2022, 06:17 Grace-Hollogne Shipment arrived at TNT location.

My UPS is growing cobwebs waiting for a battery.

--
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 10:33:53 +0100
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:54:25 +0100
> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> > The replacement battery has been shipped. Unfortunately, according
> > to TNT:
> >
> > " Shipment delayed in transit Recovery actions underway".
> >
> > Here we go again. It's a good thing that the equipment protected by
> > this UPS is not mission-critical!
> >
>
> It's making slooooooooow progress through the TNT process:
> 25/04/2022, 06:17 Grace-Hollogne Shipment arrived at TNT location.
>
> My UPS is growing cobwebs waiting for a battery.
>
Today:

26/04/2022, 07:31 Thetford Shipment is out for delivery.

To arrive by 6 pm. A good thing I have no plans to go out today.
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