I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using
*fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..

https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/

Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!
--
Tim Lamb

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:31:14 AM UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using
> *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>
> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>
> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!

I remember learning about fox wedging when I did O-level Woodwork
in the mid-70s. We may have made a sample joint, I can't remember.

I always loved the idea of it but was never confident enough of getting it
right first time...

Thanks for the interesting link.

J^n

On 21/04/2022 11:30, Tim Lamb wrote:
> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using
> *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>
> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>
> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!

I've not heard that name for it before. I've only known the technique as
a hidden wedge tenon. Never tried it myself, although I have done wedged
through tenons.

--
Colin Bignell

Tim Lamb brought next idea :
> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using *fox
> wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>
> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>
> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!

I remember doing one of those in woodwork at school, but I don't
remember any particular name for it.

On 21/04/2022 12:23, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 11:30, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using
>> *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>>
>> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>>
>> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!
>
> I've not heard that name for it before. I've only known the technique as
> a hidden wedge tenon. Never tried it myself, although I have done wedged
> through tenons.

Yup, I use it on large through tenons like those on exterior gates where
you want some really good pull out resistance to counter the swelling
and shrinking cycles of the timber. I posted a bit on one previously:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Wedged_joint

About the only time I recall a blind foxed tenon being "required"[1] was
for fitting some bun feet to the bottom of a cabinet with no visible
fixings.

[1] in the sense that it was the traditional way, but a straight peg and
mortice would have worked plenty well enough!

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Cheers,

John.

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In message <t3s48a$631$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>On 21/04/2022 12:23, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 21/04/2022 11:30, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled
>>>using *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>>>
>>> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>>>
>>> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!
>> I've not heard that name for it before. I've only known the
>>technique as a hidden wedge tenon. Never tried it myself, although I
>>have done wedged through tenons.
>
>Yup, I use it on large through tenons like those on exterior gates
>where you want some really good pull out resistance to counter the
>swelling and shrinking cycles of the timber. I posted a bit on one
>previously:
>
>http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Wedged_joint
>
>About the only time I recall a blind foxed tenon being "required"[1]
>was for fitting some bun feet to the bottom of a cabinet with no
>visible fixings.
>
>[1] in the sense that it was the traditional way, but a straight peg
>and mortice would have worked plenty well enough!

These doors may have a history. Currently fitted to a large garden shed
I moved to our then garden around 1980.

Rather tired now but the materials and workmanship way beyond their
current use. I suspect they were originally part of a repurposed
Orangery from our local stately home. The bulk of the glazed building
was used as an antique showroom by our village antiques vendor.

--
Tim Lamb

On 21/04/2022 11:30, Tim Lamb wrote:
> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled using
> *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>
> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>
> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!

I have used steel fox wedges when I was working as a steelwork engineer
many years ago now

In message <jcgmbiFt66hU1@mid.individual.net>, Rob H <rob@despammer.com>
writes
>On 21/04/2022 11:30, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> I am currently repairing a door which turned out to be assembled
>>using *fox wedging* and thought this article might be of interest..
>> https://paulsellers.com/2021/12/calculating-for-fox-wedging/
>> Luckily it came apart without too much hammering!
>
>I have used steel fox wedges when I was working as a steelwork engineer
>many years ago now

Now re-assembled with copious wood glue.

--
Tim Lamb